Mermaid and Load Screen times

  • Hi all, I've been playing the game about a month now and was just wondering about a couple of things which I seriously wonder how are still an issue in a game this old?

    Firstly, mermaids. Obviously the mermaid feature is great, but I've had numerous infuriating experiences with it recently, especially in PvP. There have been a number of occasions where my crewmates have been knocked off my ship, which is now sailing away from me, where no mermaid spawns for at least 1 minute. By the time I am able to mermaid back, I have been sunk. Often times these are fights which I was actually winning until being knocked off the ship. It's like the game doesn't recognise that my ship is 100m+ away and sailing off, and just goes "This is fine, you're good here, you can make that swim". It's completely insane how often this happens in fights with player ships. Meanwhile when I am stood ashore 30ft from my ship doing a vault, I am bombarded with mermaids. How isn't there a better system for recognising you're off your ship with no hope of getting back to it? Is there an intentional timer in PvP where the mermaid actually takes longer to spawn to reward knocking players off? Sometimes she pops up immediately, other times it is like I said, I am sunk by the time she's up.

    Kind of building on from this, is what the heck is going on with load times and screens sometimes? Once again, especially in combat, it can feel like it takes an additional 30 seconds on top of the wait on the ferry to get back to your ship, and oftentimes I am killed by a ship camper during this load screen, so load in dead. Why is my character appearing on the ship before I am actually able to control him? I can even hear the game sounds while in the load screen, including me being killed by the ship camper. Seems like a terrible system designed to encourage ship camping. (Before someone says my PC must be garbage, my load times are exponentially shorter than this in any other game, so I have no idea what's up with SoT.)

    I assume I will be met with lots of responses saying "Get good, that's what the game is all about", but I am not complaining about the gameplay here, it's the glitchy / incredibly clunky / very strangely or confused configuration of the AI / spawning / loading system which seems to result in you often being caught in huge limbos where you cannot do anything to help your crew or your ship. Is it literally just me that experiences this, or are these "quirks" just part and parcel of playing SoT? I assume it can't be because when I've played open crews and on community discords, others get very annoyed by the same stuff, especially mermaid problems.

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  • Loading time is highly dependent on the type of drive you're using to play the game.

    5600rpm drives, which are used in the lower end XBox consoles, are the worst and will give you 20+ second loading times
    7200rpm drives are alright. You can probably get between 7s and 15s respawn loading times.
    SSD will get you the best results, usually in under 10 seconds consistently.

    It's been like this since the game came out and if it was able to be fixed I'm pretty sure it would have been by now.

  • @classicpuffin Since you are complaining about the load times from ferry or mermaid, there is something you can do something about - get a better hard drive or SSD. The stock hard drive in the Xbox is actually pretty slow, being a 5200RPM laptop drive. You can significantly improve your load times by investing in a 7200RPM USB 3 hard drive or an SSD. A lot of people will tell you to get the SSD, but if you want the best price/performance ratio and still have a good amount of storage I recommend getting a 7200RPM drive. I initially thought you might be using an Xbox One, but reread the post and see you are on a PC - is it by chance a laptop? If so, then you likely are running a slower hard drive just like in the Xbox. If you have a desktop, check to make sure you aren't running one of those worthless "green" drives as those things are the slowest drives around. A desktop should have a 7200RPM drive already, so if it is slow run some maintenance on it to see if you can improve the performance.

    I have a Day 1 Xbox One console and run the game from such an external - my ferry door to ship spawn times typically run abut 10 seconds. Same for mermaid to ship. If I run it from a SSD, I'm even faster getting back to the action.

    Now some of the other stuff you are complaining about there isn't much you can do. Mermaids spawn automatically once your ship is so far away, and I think a recent patch made it further than it once was. It is not timer based (at least not to the best of my knowledge...there might be a slight one after being knocked overboard but definitely not in the 1 minute range), it is more distance based. The dying before you load in has been a consistent problem, but honestly part of that will come from your internet connection - the better your internet the less of an issue this will be. It doesn't have anything to do with your PC build but more your communication with the servers - so both your internet connection as well as your global location will make a difference there.

    But Rare did mess around with the mermaids a few months ago and some things have gotten a little wonky since then. I've noticed some of the spawns of them have taken a little longer than they used to or were on the other end of an island, then taking what seemed like forever to spawn near me as I swam towards my ship. Also it seems that sometimes other ships in the area of yours can slow down spawn times, just as storms or other events nearby can - the more action on screen the longer it can take to get back into the game. But this affects all members in the area, so in that instance the best solution is not to die (I know, not what you wanted to hear).

  • Thanks for the replies both of you.

    Sadly I am already playing the game off a decent SSD, with a pretty high spec PC besides my graphics card being a few years old.

    It's probably because I can't play on ethernet due to the infrastructure in my house, so I am playing on powerline which can be pretty up and down.

    I think it was just one of those days where I really noticed these issues and it got to me, it feels annoying when you're dying to stuff that feels beyond your control.

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