It's common knowledge now that having your sails straight and going into dead wind the sloop is the fastest.
However when you are in cross winds where you can't catch the wind the brigantine and gally are faster.
My question is this...
If I was to turn my sail to be straight into the wind and sail the cross wind with my sail pointed right at it head on, (just like I was going directly into the wind) would it be the same as sailing into the dead wind, or would it get caught?
@daringclarky
Now for a larger explanation you can watch this video (I'm sure you've seen it)
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaHT0ZLeMdU&t=2s
Or I can simplify it. Basically the way you're describing it is you would turn your sail all the way to the right and you barely don't have max wind. If this is the example you're giving, then putting sails directly forward is faster than putting sails to the side.
If the situation you're explaining has you putting the sail all the way to the right, and you have max wind. Then putting sails forward will be slower than having max wind.
If you don't have max wind, put sails forward.
@kaijoi said in Question regarding Sloop wind speed.:
@daringclarky
Now for a larger explanation you can watch this video (I'm sure you've seen it)
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaHT0ZLeMdU&t=2s
Or I can simplify it. Basically the way you're describing it is you would turn your sail all the way to the right and you barely don't have max wind. If this is the example you're giving, then putting sails directly forward is faster than putting sails to the side.
If the situation you're explaining has you putting the sail all the way to the right, and you have max wind. Then putting sails forward will be slower than having max wind.
If you don't have max wind, put sails forward.
I think he was asking if he turned his sails to the left, while the crosswind was blowing right, so that the sails were perpendicular to the wind would that be the same as using dummy sails?
The answer is still no. The speed boost doesn't really have anything to do with the sails being perpendicular to the wind direction, but rather that the sails in the default position have some kind of speed calculation error which is why using dummy sails on the sloop is faster than all non-max-wind settings.
@d3adst1ck
Yeah you got it spot on.
Thank you for clarifying that.
I always suspected it wouldn't but thought I'd actually find out.
Cheers :)
@d3adst1ck said:
which is why using dummy sails on the sloop is faster than all non-max-wind settings.
In my experience, this statement is false. Any wind that puffs the sails out even a little bit is still faster than having your sails forward directly against the wind. Having your sails in the dead-wind position is only faster than if you had your sails sideways and fully flat while sailing directly against the wind.
@galactic-geek said in Question regarding Sloop wind speed.:
@d3adst1ck said:
which is why using dummy sails on the sloop is faster than all non-max-wind settings.
In my experience, this statement is false. Any wind that puffs the sails out even a little bit is still faster than having your sails forward directly against the wind. Having your sails in the dead-wind position is only faster than if you had your sails sideways and fully flat while sailing directly against the wind.
Not according to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaHT0ZLeMdU
Close Reach (into crosswind) has the Sloop going faster with sails to the front even if you catch a bit of wind from using side sails.
There are other factors to consider besides the wind (though the video posted above is accurate), such as the waves and the ocean currents. The sea gets calmer around islands, so sailing close to them can give you a little boost. Also sailing directly NW (or close to that) will slow you down a lot, as well as incur the "drift". If you're running or trying to catch someone, I wouldn't rely on the knowledge about sail positions vs wind alone.
@realstyli said:
though the video posted above is accurate
Yes, it is. Or at least it was, well over a year ago - when it was 1st released. There have been numerous updates since, and any 1 of them could have had a ninja-update by the devs to address this, even to a small degree. Unless there is more current testing, I'd still take that video with a grain of salt.
@galactic-geek said in Question regarding Sloop wind speed.:
@realstyli said:
though the video posted above is accurate
Yes, it is. Or at least it was, well over a year ago - when it was 1st released. There have been numerous updates since, and any 1 of them could have had a ninja-update by the devs to address this, even to a small degree. Unless there is more current testing, I'd still take that video with a grain of salt.
True. We could do with another test, but I think it’s such a big aspect of the gameplay that Rare might have mentioned rebalancing it if it’s changed. I can only anecdotally say that it still seems accurate from what I’ve noticed. But, you’re right, the video and numbers are pretty old at this stage
@othersean said in Question regarding Sloop wind speed.:
On a sloop, if you can't catch FULL wind, sails front.
That's all you need to know
That's wrong. You can catch 1/2 wind and still be going faster than full sail forward against the wind.
@kaijoi I’ve always wondered if this works for every ship. Is it just sloops that are faster when sails are angled to the center? Or are brigs and gallys the same way? If not, what do you do when you don’t have wind on brigs and gallys?
This is based on the video posted above in this thread... as we've discussed, it does probably need retesting though as it's quite old, and it doesn't take into account other factors that might affect the speed of your ship.
@RealStyli gave you the technical answer of every single speed of every ship in every wind type. So I'll give you the short answer.
If you're on a sloop and you don't have max wind, put sails forward.
If you're on a brig or galleon always turn sails towards the wind (even if you don't have max wind) If the wind is blowing towards you (dummy sails) put sails forward.
