I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.

  • Look at this character:

    Her face is just about as good as this game can spit out. She has lovely, bright eyes, a perfect nose, a head that is neither too broad or too narrow - she's just good looking by any standard.

    And yet, she has the body of a professional male wrestler who needs to go on a serious diet and manage his horrific steroid addiction. So she is unusable.

    I don't have any problem with her race - I don't have any problem with her sex; the normal red flags that you could raise, accompanied by obscenity-laced tirades regarding a person's bigotry simply won't fly here - I want to play this girl... except that I can't, because she's a freaking GOON.

    And this is the problem with the IPG. I can sort through this trash system - TRASH. SYSTEM. - for what is literally days and not come up with a face as fine as that, and yet here she is, and a single body slider that I am not allowed to touch has ruined her.

    Why is this preferable to a traditional character creator? Why can't I just design my own pirate to be how I want him or her to be? Don't tell me it's "because Rare doesn't want pretty pirates." That's complete bull. A) pretty pirates are totally possible - I see them all the time. B) the game's marketing goes to great lengths to portray characters that are gorgeous - you don't see 300 pound toothless grannies in the ad material, do you? C) what business is it of anyone - Rare included - to dictate what I should want my character to look like, or how I want other players to see me, provided that such a character is possible within the design of the game?

    You can carry on about how 'you never see your character,' and how that makes the creation process meaningless, except that fully HALF the rewards we're aiming for are clothing. Paper dollism, whether you like it or not; whether you partake not at all, is a huge incentive for playing the game. But, of course, I'm not playing much... because I'm jousting with the IPG, trying to get this GARBAGE mechanic to spit out a perfect roll of random slider positions. Joy.

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  • Traditional character creators were actually random rolls. You could roll for hours to get optimal stats if you wanted, but most people just rolled until they got something acceptable and went with it.

    I don't really have a problem with the IPG and I was able to roll a character I was happy with within 5 minutes.

  • @provence1866 I spent two hours at launch picky my pirate so I was mostly happy. But all my friends just picked the best on in the first rotation of avatars and now they regret it. My sister did the same as me and was really happy with hers until the pirate smiled - no teeth, just gums and one of her eyes is blind which she couldn't tell when selecting because the avatars are too small/far back.

    I agree, even though I have a good looking pirate I had to spend hours trolling through hundreds of rejects. A simple character creation would have been a lot better and more personal.

  • @karloss00 said in I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.:

    @provence1866 I spent two hours at launch picky my pirate so I was mostly happy. But all my friends just picked the best on in the first rotation of avatars and now they regret it. My sister did the same as me and was really happy with hers until the pirate smiled - no teeth, just gums and one of her eyes is blind which she couldn't tell when selecting because the avatars are too small/far back.

    I agree, even though I have a good looking pirate I had to spend hours trolling through hundreds of rejects. A simple character creation would have been a lot better and more personal.

    And faster. I cannot recall the last time I spent more than about 15 minutes on character creation sliders in other games.

  • @provence1866

    She's built for a life at sea lol

  • I call doubts because I've seen lots of female characters in the game with good features and slim bodies. Its there.

    This makes the game actually have a semblance of different character models. I've seen the sliders in other games and the characters almost always end up looking the same for everyone.

    Ever since the reskin was introduced I rarely ever run into large character models anymore, even though the hit boxes were the same. Feel bad for your pirate. Thats your pirate and you hating on it. Tst tsk.

  • Acceptance is the first step.

    Burn your toon if you have even the slightest doubt about him/her.

    Know exactly what attributes you want, then start rolling the IPG and choose some candidates. If none appear after ten or twenty minutes, logout.
    More time spent rolling mundane characters does not guarantee anything but fatigue, your waiting on one of the exceptional looking characters to appear.
    Sometimes they can come up in the first five minutes.

    Due to the bad lighting and limited views, your selected toon may still not pass muster when actually seen stripped to the skivvies in-game. A re-roll is to be expected.

    You found the perfect face on a wrong body, close but no cigar.

    Rinse and repeat until you find a character you can love. My Insider pirate looks like Beyonce.
    Does the Chubb Dance like her as well.

    Totally worth the effort because you dont get to play God, you get to play a pirate.

    Save the white hot fury for pvp.

  • Just keep on rolling - you`ll get something good eventually. Very eventually.

  • She's gonna give Abby from Last of Us 2 a run of her money.

    Jokes aside, like the others have said keep rolling till you get the one you want.
    It took me a while to get the pirate I wanted, I wanted mine similar to the Goddess one I had on the Insider and eventually got someone similar who is my current main pirate.

    I originally used a Male model but used the potion to change it to a Female model as I mainly prefer the females most of the time, plus the cosmetics look way better on them.

  • I sympathize with your frustration. I spent about two hours in the IPG on my first play session. When I started my second, I deleted them and tried again for another hour or two.

    And when they released the potions, I spent another couple play sessions looking through it before finding one I really liked.

    (Though it may have been easier for me since I wanted my female pirate to look pretty janky.)

    I sometimes wonder if Rare's reluctance to add an actual creator might be a technical issue, but I wouldn't know anything about that.

    With the potions, you can at least try again without losing your progress. Try spending a little while in the IPG every now and then until you get what you want. I'm pretty sure you can back out of the IPG without your potion being consumed, so just take your time.

  • "Stopping the abominations that could occur with a fully freely mixed character creator is something we put a lot of time into behind the scenes."

  • And yet, she has the body of a professional male wrestler who needs to go on a serious diet and manage his horrific steroid addiction. So she is unusable.

    You do know women can gain muscle too right?

    I don't see a problem with her, probably very realistic for a hard working female pirate lifting cannonballs all day (as shown in the screenshot).

    Women, and indeed men, can have all sorts of body types and I'm glad they're mostly represented in the variety on show in SoT. It's also good to have these mixes for non-binary folk and trans people to have inclusion.

    Do I think the IPG could be improved? Of course, and I've suggested solutions in the past, such as when you favourite a pirate or pirates to be able to roll more based on their appearances.

    But to get so heated over something like this, well, it speaks more about the player than the game.

  • I could be wrong so don't quote me on this but I remember hearing / reading somewhere that each pirate that is selected is removed from the IPG so that another player cannot select the same one as you. This allows for every pirate to be truly unique even while wearing the sames clothes. I think their intent, whether or not I agree with it personally or whether or not it's justified is beyond the point, is to allow your pirate to be truly your pirate.

  • I've had the same thing occur countless times lol. It can be frustrating, but when you see an awesome pirate, it feels like it was worth the time spent...

    Here's a tip: the speed of the IPG is tied to your fps, so I recommended disabling v-sync and running it windowed (alt+enter) to increase your fps. I get 270-300 fps doing it this way, saves a massive amount of time.

    If you're on xbox... I'm sorry.

  • Couldn't you just keep rolling and stop asking for SoT to like every other game?

  • The staff behind Sea of Thieves must really take roleplaying seriously. They should implement the character creation system that Oblivion has

  • Keeping trying, my female pirate is pretty and so is my crew mates. We both did not give up until we were happy with our pirate.

  • My pirate looks like:

    ....so I'm happy with it.

  • The IPG is trash. You are 100% correct Provence. I've spent far too much time trying to find a character I want to use. They are never perfect for what I'm looking for.

  • @galactic-geek said in I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.:

    My pirate looks like:

    ....so I'm happy with it.

    Great pic of Mark Twain. ;)

  • @ghostpaw said in I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.:

    @galactic-geek said in I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.:

    My pirate looks like:

    ....so I'm happy with it.

    Great pic of Mark Twain. ;)

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • I felt really meh about the IPG when I first started. I thought it was bizarre that even after choosing my pirate, that I couldn't appropriately tweak her looks to my liking.

    I think eventually I'll probably buy one of the potions and start the re-rolling process again, just to see other options. I'm happy that the potion is affordable for this purpose.

    My character, currently, looks okay, but she has black lips and that does bug me somewhat. If she had normal-colored lips I think I'd be perfectly fine with her, missing teeth and all.

  • @darbii-rue Black lips? Pic please! 😋

  • @galactic-geek said in I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.:

    @darbii-rue Black lips? Pic please! 😋

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    Captain Black Lips at your service. But for real, it just looks weird, and since the makeup options in this game are incredibly limited... I'm just not a fan of that particular "asset."

  • @darbii-rue said in I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.:

    @galactic-geek said in I LOATHE the IPG. I hate it with a white, hot, incendiary fury.:

    @darbii-rue Black lips? Pic please! 😋

    Imgur

    Captain Black Lips at your service. But for real, it just looks weird, and since the makeup options in this game are incredibly limited... I'm just not a fan of that particular "asset."

    You may not be, but I know someone who is. 🙋‍♂️

  • I get why they use this system but it really wouldn't hurt to give the option to filter pirates or even reroll or change body type and face for example.

  • Before I started playing, I would have said "It can't take that long to find a pirate you want!"

    ...and now I've spent 3 days in the infinite pain generator.

    Please let us just build our own pirates, I've seen the same 3-5 face types hundreds of times now.

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