PVP - Let's Talk about it civilly.

@foxywiththemoxy

Frist off i appreacite you starting this tread.

As for PvP combat it has went thru a varity of changes. For the most part it gets the job done in adventure mode. It however still servly lacks for a mode like arena which as it was never designed for prolonged pirate combat as it wasn't designed to have a wide skill gap.

Like in any system there are flaws and room for improvement tye question is more about priority.

As for what i think should be done i think you should have a permeant melee as i feel in all fps the standered is gun, malee and granades.

The sword is far from OP it was useless as a weapon at one point. But the combat is a bit slugish and clumsy. They should have added a parry and a thrust but i understand the ping situation and all. They wanted to keep it simple.

Alot of compliants seem to stem from the hit stun which in lag is uncounterable with a block and the fact guns don't block. Players always complian in any situation when you take the controls away. They like to feel as tho they always can react.

As for the guns there fine except for the pistol which has nothing special to it. The bunderbust has a knockback and the EOR has a scope and both have high damage. The pistole has no additional benfit and medium damage. I feel it would be great if you could carry more then one as its a light and compact weapon. Which would give it an additional benifit of carring twice the ammo. I say this cause i feel the pistol is under used and really only seing noobs use it. It works fine for PvE that why i use it.

I feel the combat system would have to be complete reworked if arena is to be succesful along with the respawn and point system.

But for Adventure a few minor tweaks here and there as it wtill a little rough around the edges but for the most part it works just fine.

How was that analysis?

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@foxywiththemoxy

Frist off i appreacite you starting this tread.

As for PvP combat it has went thru a varity of changes. For the most part it gets the job done in adventure mode. It however still servly lacks for a mode like arena which as it was never designed for prolonged pirate combat as it wasn't designed to have a wide skill gap.

Like in any system there are flaws and room for improvement tye question is more about priority.

As for what i think should be done i think you should have a permeant melee as i feel in all fps the standered is gun, malee and granades.

The sword is far from OP it was useless as a weapon at one point. But the combat is a bit slugish and clumsy. They should have added a parry and a thrust but i understand the ping situation and all. They wanted to keep it simple.

Alot of compliants seem to stem from the hit stun which in lag is uncounterable with a block and the fact guns don't block. Players always complian in any situation when you take the controls away. They like to feel as tho they always can react.

As for the guns there fine except for the pistol which has nothing special to it. The bunderbust has a knockback and the EOR has a scope and both have high damage. The pistole has no additional benfit and medium damage. I feel it would be great if you could carry more then one as its a light and compact weapon. Which would give it an additional benifit of carring twice the ammo. I say this cause i feel the pistol is under used and really only seing noobs use it. It works fine for PvE that why i use it.

I feel the combat system would have to be complete reworked if arena is to be succesful along with the respawn and point system.

But for Adventure a few minor tweaks here and there as it wtill a little rough around the edges but for the most part it works just fine.

How was that analysis?

Perhaps separate balancing?
Like, balance specific aspects of combat for Adventure, and balance specific aspects for Arena.

That would be nice but that would effectly be making two sperate games. As Arena effecitvely share the same sandbox as adventure mode so its impossible to seprate the two. At best all they could do is give exculsive assets/tools that are only accessable in arena but i'm not sure how that will fly with the community.

Sometimes I think a large chunk of people treat this game as just another pro shooter. Which it’s clearly not. Not singling people out; it’s just the impression I get.

I think all weapon combinations are perfectly valid and have their specific uses. Each weapon is meant to serve a specific purpose based on their range and Rare have said this on many an occasion. So no-one should be mocked over their weapon combinations, nor should there be a ‘meta’ outside of the intended weapon roles.

Obviously exploits such as instant double-gun do not form part of the intended use and they have been rightfully removed. Same goes with wallbangs.

Because the game doesn’t keep a kill-death ratio of any form for a player, it isn’t meant to reward players for killing others, but instead for pulling off skilled ‘heists’ to take treasure from others (hence Sea of ‘Thieves’), which incidentally involves combat. But let’s face it, there are skilled pirates that can abscond with enemy treasure without firing a single shot!

So yes, fix obvious unfair exploits, but don’t sweat the combat too much. Combat is part of the game, but it isn’t the entire game!