Add a somewhat progression into the game.

Anything to look forward too what gives u an advantage, as there is nothing to look forward to. Except if you like a specific title above your what does absolutely nothing.

Like faster cannonballs reloading, double shots from cannons, stronger/better aiming with guns. anything what improves you above a other player

@masterpost dude you're not doing it right... in Sot the thing you should always look forward to is obviously.....

YOUR NEXT ADVENTURE WITH YOUR BELOVED CREW

@bugaboo-bill said in Add a somewhat progression into the game.:

You dont get the game right imho.
There is no matchmaking and it's sessionbased.
What fun is involved for a) the highlevel to fight someone without a challenge and b) for the lowlevel to have no chance? "

I know its sessionbased, thats why this game doesn't have a reason to come back to it. Its quite simple, just match players with X amount of hours with each other. By the way GTA5 online does match up newbies with people having 1.000+ hours into the same sessions, and people still like and play the game.

How about the idea of owning an island, and you can grow specific fruit/vegetables on islands. People needs those fruits to sell and get a new coin or just those fruit as valuta, in order to buy ship upgrades, or able to get an entire fleet of ships in order to fight.
You can hire other players to ship these fruits to players to these players needing that. And once ever hour or 2 hours you're able to fight over these islands and so change ownership.

Because the game right now is empty and there is basically nothing to do, you dont even need other people to accomplish things. All you can do now is the same thing over and over again (talking about voyages and world events), or these tall tales. but once u done one of these tall tales you've seen it and done with it. Right now you're been ''rewarded'' with a title or skins if you do them 5 times. I am sorry but thats just weird.

And talking about cannons doing tiny holes or talking about planks not withstanding damage isn't the game change nor progression I tried to point out. You came up with this not me.
The game has loads of potential but these developers cant come up with anything, its a pirate game (atleast IGN describes it as it, check the trailer on steam) but you cant have a parrot on your shoulder. I mean c'mon, thats the most basic first thing you think about if you hear the word ''PIRATE''. A filthy stinking alcoholic guy with a long red beard with a red parrot on his shoulder, drinking rum allday.

@bugaboo-bill said in Add a somewhat progression into the game.:

"Want to got to beat X"
" Ah no sorry, not highlevel enough"
"Want to go to do this?"
"Ah no, no challenge anymore."

And this is exactly how World of Warcraft worked, and look how many people played that game, it was the best MMORPG out there, and it still is after 20 years. Because people want to stand out and be better equipped then a other.

Its a matter of opinion if you like it or not, but the concept worked to keep players playing. Right now I know exactly what im supposed to do when I start a new game up and that just makes it boring, as there is also no player interaction. except for ''like kill that crew'' or ''lets make allaince''. You dont need each other to achieve anything. With my idea describes above, you do.

Seriously, why not divide the game into 2 games and give a progression system next to a non-progression system ? You gave no single good argument why we shouldn't you only shared your opinion.
You having an opinion about something doesn't mark down it is so for everyone else on the entire planet.

Think about it. If I like to eat sprouts in real life, but you dont for any reason, does that mean you have to boycot that vegetable out your country ? It makes no sense, and thats basically what your putting down into your comment.

@Bugaboo Bill

Awesome for sharing your opinion again, but WoW shows that people do come back because there is progression. And your friends did not wait for you to progress because the game was simply to fun to stop playing. Therefore the game in total was more succesfull then Sea of Thieves.

I dont mind hearing your opinion though, but it shows the game in general has more replay value then SoT is right now

@bugaboo-bill

I understand they got a specific vision about a game, but it turned out to be repetitive as hell. And u get nothing as a reward, making you quit the game.
Thats just a fact, I am not here to listen to each other opinions, I am trying to widen your horizon and that you see and understand what I mean.

I played a lot of WoW, maybe a little too much. But even that game eventually gets boring. It is repetitive too, but you progress your character into being better then someone else. That is the reward for doing the same thing over and over. You brought your character into a PvP battle and pwned the other player, cuz u spend more time into the game. Whats bad about it ? Nothing. You got rewarded and you became better.
On SoT your reward is a skin for your ship or get a new pirate hat... I am sorry but... that isn't a proper reward. Once you figured that out, you feel like what you're doing is absolutely useless.

@wagstr The problem with SoT is that cosmetics are not progression. People want progression, there's ways to do this and retain playability for new games. Also the fact that encounters already aren't constant means that you can easily progress without any advantage, having a system that implements actual mechanics for veteran players to use, like bigger ships/different guns will not ruin a game like this it will just make battles between two veteran ships more fun.

I see people compare this to Apex, which is basically only cosmetics, and Overwatch which is only cosmetics, but the difference people miss is that those games are a BR and Arena shooter with massive variants of playable characters. Meaning the combat can be different based on who you play as. Now if SoT was really going to be like these games they would be releasing a new pirate type with different abilities every 6 months but that isn't the case.

People always make the argument "Just go play something else this isn't the game for you." That's a poor take, if every game developer took this approach eventually they'd go out of business. In the words of Asmongold, a game should make you want to waste your time, not waste your time. And while SoT is fun for the create your own adventure aspect with friends just having fun, this gets old for a lot of people real quick. And a game like SoT that makes money from releasing new content should be aiming to retain its player base and grow it, rather than just say "I don't care if you get bored, just leave then." It's 2021 and most large streamers have ceased playing this game, because there is no replayability to it.

Sure there are the select few who will play this game until the servers shut down, but they are not what Rare should be focusing on. Those people are more or less shills because they like repetitive action in games. We'll see what happens with the update coming out, but I doubt it's going to add much based on past updates. The fact of the matter is this game could have been much more than it is, but it is not, they could have made treasure something that's actually valuable. I mean after a point, why even steal treasure from other ships, just sink them, the treasure becomes useless. Sure you can achievement hunt and set goals, but once those goals and achievements are done, there is nothing left. The base gameplay loop is not fun, and repetitive. The combat is not variant enough to make doing the same things over and over fun. At least in Apex and OW you don't know what to expect in encounters because different squads have different combinations of abilities, and the mobility of players is much higher meaning not as straight forward in fighting.

I think Rare should have listened to the majority of their player base, but they didn't, and the game is losing the attention it once had. It's only a matter of time before a better pirate game comes out and blows this one out of the water.