Let's end this once and for all until a new update changes things. From what I gathered the sloop is the fastest into headwind with sails in the middle. For the other two ships sails should be to the side during headwind and not in the middle.
Lastly is tacking a faster? You're trying to get from point A to point B during headwind. If you start tacking will you arrive faster? Assuming your crew is perfect.
SLOOP
Fastest with sails in default position against the wind.
Also for maximum speed, unless you can catch the wind, keep them in default position as you are faster than angling them and still not catching wind.
A brig will catch a sloop against the wind if the sloops are not in this default starting position.
BRIG
Fastest in cross winds.
Will be caught by Gally WITH the wind.
Cross winds are the fastest for BRIG.
GALLY
Fastest WITH
Slowest against.
Ive seen a video detailing all and can confirm ive escaped every time following this.
Tacking is faster in the Brigantine if the crew is in sync because of it's relatively high crosswind speed. It's not worth the trouble with the Sloop because of the weird "idiot sail" setting/bug? I've haven't tried enough tacking in a Galleon to say if it is faster or not. I'm guessing not with it's slow sail adjustment speed and turning ratio.
@viperishemu2992 I was thinking brig would be my best bet for testing it out. You're right about the gally being harder than the brig. It might still be possible if you always double time sails and the helmsman steers into the wind before calling out sail adjustments.
If you're not trying to tack and you're in headwind on a gally or brig do you rock dummy sails or sails to the side? I know the sloop dummy sails are best.
@shadyjayp sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
Does the sails in default position thing work on brig or gally the same as in sloop?
When going exactly against the wind, yes
@shadyjayp sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@schwammlgott But not with sidewind even if you cannot catch it?
This just works for the sloop...
Got the video where it's explained in detail:
@captain-pkunoob said in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@daringclarky That lines up with what I know so far. This information is over a year old though. So now I'm trying to look through old patch notes to make sure nothing changed. Just to be clear if you have headwind in gally or brig what position are your sails?
Not confirmed by anyone but what i usually do when in a brig is mimic the sloop. If in headwind ill have them in default position.
I have no idea if it works or not though!
If you find out anything new that i dont know though please tag me and let me know! Updating this could be incredibly useful!
Thanks for making this post. Its good to check stuff is still relevant amid the flurry of new updates!
Please keep me posted if u find anything out!
@schwammlgott said in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@shadyjayp sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@schwammlgott But not with sidewind even if you cannot catch it?
This just works for the sloop...
Got the video where it's explained in detail:
Hey mate.
So for the sloop in a cross wind i cannot catch i keep it in the default position...unless i can catch it in which case i angle.
However do we do this for the other ships?
If im sailing a brigantine in cross wind i cannot catch would i be better having it in default position like we do when slooping or angled?
It “feels” faster in cross winds when im angling instead of default position.
I dont know for sure if it actually is faster or its just in my head lol.
Whats your thoughts?
@daringclarky sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@schwammlgott said in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@shadyjayp sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@schwammlgott But not with sidewind even if you cannot catch it?
This just works for the sloop...
Got the video where it's explained in detail:
Hey mate.
So for the sloop in a cross wind i cannot catch i keep it in the default position...unless i can catch it in which case i angle.However do we do this for the other ships?
If im sailing a brigantine in cross wind i cannot catch would i be better having it in default position like we do when slooping or angled?
It “feels” faster in cross winds when im angling instead of default position.
I dont know for sure if it actually is faster or its just in my head lol.
Whats your thoughts?
The default position when crosswind only works for the sloop to be faster...all other ships the default position just when heading exactly against the wind
@daringclarky also, when you are on a brig/galleon and you chase the same ship type, they go against the wind with default sails...if you try to go left-right-left-right to get a better wind and angle them you lose more distance than gain it...so better put them in default position and wait for them to make a mistake
@captain-pkunoob I turn the sails to the side on Brig. I've never noticed the "stupid sails" making any ship go faster into the wind, except for the Sloop.
Tacking in the Brig we've caught up to a "stupid sails" Sloop. But never going straight into the wind with either sails setting. So while not confirmed, I think that tacking is faster for the Brig, if you do it right. I could be wrong?
Don't forget that the "chop" of waves also affects speed. Bigger waves slow the Sloop down more than the Brigantine and the Brigantine more than the Galleon. So that is a factor too!
@viperishemu2992 sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@captain-pkunoob I turn the sails to the side. I've never noticed the "stupid sails" making any ship go faster into the wind, except for the Sloop.
Tacking in the Brig we've caught up to a "stupid sails" Sloop. But never going straight into the wind with either sails setting. So while not confirmed, I think that tacking is faster for the Brig, if you do it right. I could be wrong?
The sloop probably hadn't the sails centered exactly...no brig ever got me this way
@schwammlgott said in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@viperishemu2992 sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@captain-pkunoob I turn the sails to the side. I've never noticed the "stupid sails" making any ship go faster into the wind, except for the Sloop.
Tacking in the Brig we've caught up to a "stupid sails" Sloop. But never going straight into the wind with either sails setting. So while not confirmed, I think that tacking is faster for the Brig, if you do it right. I could be wrong?
The sloop probably hadn't the sails centered exactly...no brig ever got me this way
Yeah, I'm thinking that they weren't sailing right. We were nailing the tacking with 3 of us. But they were probably making some mistake? It was pretty choppy weather. They probably weren't holding the helm straight???
@viperishemu2992 the brig can get a decent speed with even a little cross wind. Potentially you may not even need to tack back and forth. If the wind is a little cross winded you can catch the sloop. At least that's what's happening for me.
I've chased a sloop against the wind but not directly against, more of at an angle. They had default sails but I caught them with fully angled.
But soon as the sloop goes against inthe wind directly with default sails, its starts to drift away :)
Try and see if it works better than tacking next time.
It may or may not.
But if you do please let me know which seemed quicker!
I would of been totally lost though trying to figure this all out on my own tho 😂
@schwammlgott This is what I'm wanting to test but there's a lot of factors that compromise the test results. I have also opened a ticket and hope I get to chat with a cool dev in the near future.
@schwammlgott The only thing wrong with this video is the age. Several patches have came out and maybe somethings have changed. About one month ago the creator of this video said he plans to run some tests and create a more updated video if anything has changed.
@captain-pkunoob sagte in Sailing into headwind discussion all ship types.:
@schwammlgott The only thing wrong with this video is the age. Several patches have came out and maybe somethings have changed. About one month ago the creator of this video said he plans to run some tests and create a more updated video if anything has changed.
They never changed anything to the wind or sails...
And I never noticed any difference...
