PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI)

@hipsu555 Becuase 95% of the community hate PvP entirely. The normal servers where PvP players would go to try to get some PvP, would be empty becuase everybody would be in the private servers. 'iF yOu WaNt PvP gO tO aReNa' - No.

@orchideelamm921 said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

@combatxkitty sagte in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

You mean the PvPvE side? Also exactly my point. You want to turn it into single player mode by being able to do everything in a private server and be fully rewarded for it.

How many times do we have to tell you that we don't give a single flying fig about rewards??? Keep your e-peen we do not need it. Cosmetics are rewards for questing, they're generally not attached to the PvP aspect. And who said anything about single-player? I for one would love to be able to interact with other crews, but to my experience, people either run or attack. That's boring. Where is that social component Rare keeps talking about? The only kind of social that is is Social Darwinist.

First off I do not have any kind of peen and second off who made you the spokes person for private server request? I was not even talking to you lol. The person I was quoting suggested having private servers with progression, that would essentially be single player mode. Also I see many say progression is meaningless then get their pantaloons up in a bunch when anyone suggest PvE servers or private servers not have rep earned. So which is it? Do rewards matter or not? Maybe to you they do not so fine, sit in a private server 24/7 because open adventure mode is too difficult for you but do not get any rep for anything you do. Im fine with that, could careless.

Actually private servers are already coming, I have said that in posts and I am actually looking forwards to them because I do think they could be fun for every now and then. I have said many times I am fine with private servers as long as no progression in the factions, I do not think you should be able to sit and grind out faction work in them and since you say "we do not give a flying fig" about rewards you should take no issue to that. I am mainly do focus on PvE by the way, I only attack ships when absolutely necessary.

Also what do you mean cosmetics are rewards for questing and not tied to PvP aspect? I earned plenty cosmetics through doing voyages which had the constant threat of PvP from others, its a PvPvE game.

I meet people often on SOT. I met two of my best friends on it. Going by the way you talk to people I am guessing it is not Rare's fault you arnt having any positive social experiences.

@orchideelamm921 said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

@combatxkitty sagte in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

You mean the PvPvE side? Also exactly my point. You want to turn it into single player mode by being able to do everything in a private server and be fully rewarded for it.

How many times do we have to tell you that we don't give a single flying fig about rewards??? Keep your e-peen we do not need it.

And yet every time private servers with no progression (with the purpose of social events, training, chilling, content creating,) are discussed, all the PVE zealots are up in arms saying the game would be pointless then and they supposedly still deserve their trophies for scoring in empty nets. Who's that "we" you are talking about, you and the parrot on your shoulder?

@khol-thndrwlkr said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

Everyone keeps saying to turn off chat or be in a party... Why do I have to turn off chat or change the way I play so I don't encounter hate speech and toxicity?

Because it's easier to check a damned box in a menu to solve your issue than trying to change the whole world population's behavior or hiring speech police officers 24/24? You can already report people and they will be dealt with.

Don't be lazy, you have the tools to fix or at least greatly help your problem, use them.

@khol-thndrwlkr said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

Everyone keeps saying to turn off chat or be in a party... Why do I have to turn off chat or change the way I play so I don't encounter hate speech and toxicity? So the toxic, racist, horrible people on here get to play how they want and everyone else needs to adapt so we don't see it? Could we maybe address the fact that everyone appears to think calling strangers the n-word and other terrible things is acceptable behavior as long as it happens in a video game? I guess that's the kind of environment Rare wants to perpetuate.

Also, calling the slog to pirate legend "progression" is ridiculous.

So you are not willing to mute game chat so you do not hear other pirates use hate speach yet you are totally fine playing and progressing (assuming you want rep earned) in a private server all by yourself or with only your friends to help so you can avoid hate speech? Seems to me you want private servers for other reasons.

My question is why do we need to go into private servers to avoid hate speech?

I been called all kinds of nasty things just for being a female. I will continue on playing in public, I wont let others nasty behavior stop me from fully experiencing this game and what good would that be? We wont make change hiding away now will we?

Also do not blame Rare for others discrimination and hate. This is no way just a Rare issue it extends across all online games.

Also private servers are coming so be happy about that. Will you be able to grind out faction work?I highly doubt it but the private server spokes person said rewards does not matter to anyone so there ya go!

One other thing, the "slog" to pirate legend is progression just because you think its ridiculous does not mean its not progression.

@khol-thndrwlkr they wont get to play if they are reported and banned by members of the community acting responsibly will they.

These people will be less likely to be banned if users just go and hide away with less people reporting them.

If anything it's just contributing to the problem, not helping it.

If players hide away in private servers due to a fear of being offended, what message does that send to players being toxic?

They've won, they've achieved what they set out to do which is drive you away by using submission.

You really think they are going to stop that behaviour to others because you are in a private server.

I dont think so somehow.

But others being offended is ok, just as long as you arent right?

@rowge-gaming or, you know, actually provide evidence of it?

It's not difficult to capture the last few mins or so of gameplay.

I've found doing this to be absolutely crucial, and sending the evidence via a support ticket on this website, pretty much gets the job done.

@rowge-gaming said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

@venomous-sloth7 said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

@rowge-gaming said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

@venomous-sloth7 said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

@combatxkitty said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

Online gaming like life is full of different types of people. If your skin is not thick enough to deal with different types of personalities then maybe social online games are not for you.

I agree fully. Although no one should be derogatory against another it does happen. Unfortunately it is part of life. I would not go to a restaurant, gas station, department store or any other place where another person has the freedom and right to be in just as much as me and expect that business to only allow me and anyone who may be with me to go in and not allow anyone else in because there is a chance that someone in the crowd may say something derogatory against me. The same applies to a game. There are avenues to report people that would do that, and they should be reported, but I would not expect to be able to play a game designed for social interactions on a server just for me or my friends.

Are you saying Rare shouldn't implement private servers because people people have a right to use hate speech?

You quoted my statement, which means you should have read it. So in response to your question I will point out that in my statement I said "no one should be derogatory against another"

I also said "There are avenues to report people that would do that, and they should be reported"

I thought that I was crystal clear that hate speech of any type is uncalled for and should be appropriately punished. Yet as I stated, people should not get servers just because there is a chance someone may call you names. Only let it bother you long enough to report them for a foolish decision and they will be dealt with by Rare or Microsoft accordingly. Then wish them well, give them a GG and sail away. They are not worth your time and they are not worth Rare's time to make separate server's when they can be reported and banned. That is how you deal with them. If all you do is hide on your own server then they win and they are left to go on doing the same to others.

If someone experiences hate speech and then they request for a private server, then clearly "reporting" (which is a joke and does nothing) isn't enough. Maybe you just don't understand the problem, or you just don't care. Why would you try to stop a solution that would prevent someone from being subjected to hate speech?

Why is reporting a joke? I got someone banned for 30 days for saying hateful things and now they have a strike on their account. I think your attitude to let the hateful people harass others until those victims too have no choice but to no longer game in public servers , is well rather awful.

Also I still do not know why you feel a private server is needed for this when its just as easy to mute game chat, that is a solution right there but its one that you will ignore because its not what YOU want. YOU want private servers for YOURSELF. Stop trying to use others suffering as a platform to get what you want. You want private servers we get it and you throwing every reason at the wall you can think of till something sticks is getting borderline offensive now.

Also private servers are coming so I am not sure why people are still championing for private servers. Its happening and it will be how the devs see fit.

@itskingbertie said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

All I know is this mentality of my willy is bigger cus i didn’t have to do it on private servers is the reason this game has trash numbers lol, >

There are actually more reasons as to why people are against it, maybe read up a bit on peoples reasons. Also not sure where you get "trash numbers" from. The game is doing rather well.

I could name 6 people who would come back if we could play PVE, >

Wow really? Six people? Well maybe Rare will change their minds on the topic now. Also you all can play "PvE" I manage to every time I am on.

games like red dead where online “progression” isn’t effected by players yeah u might lose a third of your trade in or lose 10 mins to fight someone but it doesn’t ruin a whole game session. >

Im confused as to what you are saying. In Red Dead you do all your sales in public and can lose that if they are destroyed by another player. Its risk and reward SOT is risk and reward aswell. So doing voyages in a private server would not be risk and reward right?

Also when the game is geared for streamers and PC players what more do this game need to actively push its whole community away - the controller matchmaking was pointless, the Frame rates mean xbox is pointless unless u get an xbox lobby, people already complain about people making their own friendly servers. Like loool it’s nonsense private servers with progression would be great just introduce slightly different cosmetics for normal greif servers and then greifers could feel good. I mean I doubt it cus no kids to steal their hour’s worth of progression from and then move on to the next easy target I was interested to see the community forums after this update see if the community is any better but honestly the toxic-ness of PVPVE players is Litterally running this game into the ground. I enjoyed the views and sailing was awesome especially alone - running ur own sloop was satisfying but playing any content was not as no point when a tally of PC players can toy with you without u even loading back in lol.

That entire paraghraph sounds salty. Clearly you have had some rough times out on the Sea's. Not everyone in adventure mode are "greifers" and do you really think no one can grief in PvE server? I have played on PvE servers in games and we have a handful of people who come just to grief.

Anyone who thinks having a cosmetic and shares that with someone who earned through private seeing that as a kick in the teeth just means u where only here to act like u had a bigger pair of man things.

Again that is not a main reason as to why people do not want PvE servers. Go read the forum more or listen to Dev statements as to why they are not for them.

If u want social interaction like this game is supposed to be about would accept private servers as the games saviour I would also create LFG to make my own server full of friendly low levels to show the ropes and other times for fights and made up races and games. In the current state the game is in ways the point in cashing in every 2 mins to not loose progress or sailing around for hours with everyone running away thinking ur the whole to ruin their experience.

Well arnt you in for a treat. Devs said they do have plans for private servers in the work so you can open your newbie training camp hopefully soon. I like helping low levs or solo players myself if I see them. Also lets not act like setting up a discord and asking for people to join you is the same as an in the moment encounter to a fellow pirate and that is what Rare is going for. I met my best friend on a dock after crashing my ship, now that was fun.

Point is this game needs PVE servers or private servers and PVPVE can carry on being arena without the time limit.>

Really? Arena without the time limit? How is it that I can often times go a six hour game session without one hostile ship coming at me yet some people seem like they can not even leave an outpost?????? fine. I actually do not care for the PvP in this game, I find it rather poorly developed so I avoid it and do so just fine.

Go play a themepark mmorpg if you want PVE mode. This game isn't it.

@TheArgonaut144 Better luck next time, shop more carefully!

Maybe when the game was brand-new, it needed PvP. It doesn't anymore. There is more than enough gameplay here to keep me happy and busy with only PvE and co-op.

My son would really appreciate it, too.

In fact, I was dead-set against getting it for him because I knew there was no PvE/private server mode. But his grandmother bought it for him, and I was right, we both hate the PvP. We are enjoying the game anyway because the player density is low and not everyone is out for blood, but we would enjoy it a lot more with no PvP at all. When we do encounter it, it's very negative.

Open it up to players of more kinds! You can expand your vision. Ark: Survival Evolved is mostly a tribal PvP game, but it has private servers and PvE rules for those who choose, and we enjoy that just the two of us, too.

@daddy382 The game is already open to every kind of player. The devs are putting a shared world to your disposition, take part in it or don't. It's not their fault if you don't want to deal with some of the core aspects of their game.

It's never too late for you, or too early for your son, to learn that sometimes in life you have to take the bad with the good of a situation. Wouldn't that be a teachable moment, father and son, to fight side by side and overcome challenges together, rather than begging for a hiding place and run away from challenges?

@itskingbertie said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):
@combatxkitty said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

@itskingbertie said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

If every PVE baby had 6 friends to bring back to the game rare would definitely notice and would it be a bad thing that ur beloved game suddenly gained huge numbers?!>

Beloved game? I play alota games, ok? This just happens to be one of them.

Players can attack u and destroy ur stuff, it then drops a bag worth 2/3 of the value and if u lose that u can leave and restart with another chance to cash in, the player who attacked gets to keep the bag and still cash it in, win win!

I actually would not be against people get some rep for when they dig up a chest or kill a skelly captain, we do not need PvE servers for that.

Also when the game is geared for streamers and PC players what more do this game need to actively push its whole community away - the controller matchmaking was pointless, the Frame rates mean xbox is pointless unless u get an xbox lobby, people already complain about people making their own friendly servers. Like loool it’s nonsense private servers with progression would be great just introduce slightly different cosmetics for normal greif servers and then greifers could feel good. I mean I doubt it cus no kids to steal their hour’s worth of progression from and then move on to the next easy target I was interested to see the community forums after this update see if the community is any better but honestly the toxic-ness of PVPVE players is Litterally running this game into the ground. I enjoyed the views and sailing was awesome especially alone - running ur own sloop was satisfying but playing any content was not as no point when a tally of PC players can toy with you without u even loading back in lol.

Im sorry solo slooping did not work out for you but I started out as an xbox solo slooper when game came out, was one for awhile
and I really did do well for myself, completed plenty of content. As far as PvPvE players being toxic that is a new one. Ive heard people complain PvP'ers are toxic people but never heard that about PvPvE'ers. Also you like to throw the word griefer around alot, why is it I feel like you think anyone who sinks you is a griefer? Maybe I am wrong but you just come off that way. Also you went from not giving a flying fig about rewards to now private servers will be great with progression and slightly different cosmetics, talk about a flip flop.

As a old PL before they added more levels to make it feel like more content I’ve had my fair share of bad experiences considering most people on this game are toxic >

You seem more toxic than most players I have come across on SOT to be honest.

All the decent responses I’ve seen to no PVE are this nothing else other then they are better then everyone for not “whining about PVE” >

Well you must not really be paying attention much to what you read or only see what you want to see because that is not true at all.

U clearly agree that the PVP is broken and the fact u ignored the proven fact that frame rates and spawn timers clearly mean Pc are extremely better off on this game plus the poo controller matchmaking not just PC- xbox shows u won’t acknowledge that problem cus u have no comeback to it, which burdens majority of its player base seeing as I can’t imagine a lot of people would pay for this game on steam - compared to the amount of people that would try it since they have game pass. >

I never said PvP was broken I said I find it poorly developed. I feel like so much more could have gone into hand to hand combat and it was just left being so basic. Trust me I have some games I PvP in and I cant even fight on the ground because of how broken the PvP is due to exploits and glitches , SOT is a cake walk when it comes to that. They do need to do more to fix hit reg though and sure I think a couple other things can be fixed but I would not call it broken.

Also cant you turn cross play off now? You sound like a typical bitter PC gamer hater. If you feel that disadvantaged save up and buy a PC, I mean seriously. I played on xbox the first year I played SOT, I played on xbox long before cross play was an option and this may make you really triggered but back then I am sure I went against PC'ers and well honestly I really do not have many complaints. Sure if they were on keyboard mouse they had a slight upper hand but whatever I like using controller anyways. I am on PC now and still use my controller. Its a game, you win some you lose some, so what?

And yes people like me here help low levels don’t look for a fight and make LFGs helping anyone is probably the only reason this game survived this long tbh >

Oh yeah sure the game is still alive because of people like you. Geez, talk about having an inflated e-peen.

Or u just running away from a galleon of PC players who will crush u quickly :) “oh but I’m good so I never get caught off guard and can always defended myself” ur just saying that on here, we both know it isn’t true >

Are you seriously making up quotes now?"** Yeah its not true because you made it up lol. "I’m good so I never get caught off guard and can always defended myself” ur just saying that on here** I have never said that. You are literally typing at your keyboard making stuff up about me and you call other people toxic, yeah ok.

Actually me and my friend have been caught off guard quite a bit because sometimes we dont pay attention. Sometimes that has resulted in us being sunk or killed but we dont care because we do not take it seriously when it happens. Not too long ago we were fishing and some brig sailed by sunk our ship and yelled "git gud" in chat and we just carried on with our night. See, a false belief that pro PvE server players like yourself have about us gamer's who do not agree with them being added is that we do not deal with the same craptastic sessions at times that you deal with, we do. We are all playing the same game remember that. Its a choice though, some put on their big pirate pantaloons and sail on and others campaign to change the game.

As far as running away from a galleon of PC players that will probably crush me, I have sunk galleons while on a sloop. I personally find galleons the easier of the ships to deal with. Like I said I do not care for the PvP as in its just too plain for my liking but I deal with it because its typically easy enough to avoid and I enjoy other aspects. Me and my friend do just fine avoiding PvP is my point, we out sail ships and cash in, its really as simple as that. I will say we can avoid 95 percent of possible PvP encounters. Im not saying I am a super gamer or that I have never been sunk however I will say back when we use to grind out forts we never lost one and we had plenty other players come after us and I was on xbox then and there was no opt out so you can take from that what you want.

As for cosmetics u didn’t give me a answer to that either. If ur so mad that u can steal someone’s time Yes I said time because they is not XP until cash in u either have to make the game tedious by constant cash ins or risk losing the entire session or a hour or too if u make it regular intervals of time between cash ins to when someone stealing ur stuff or worse just sinking u for the sake of it, and if u think that is normal and no risk no reward then u shouldn’t play it when the game becomes A vibrant interaction fest with PVE b*%*s playing on cool fun servers and ur amazing PVPVE become empty cus who wants to deal with the likes of you?

You seem very angry. The more I converse with you the more I am seeing why you seem to have so many issues with other players and why you need your own safe server. Also why would anyone have a problem playing with me in adventure mode? I have zero interest in stealing anyone's treasure. Im like the least person anyone should worry about unless they come at me first. Also what was your question about cosmetics?

I’m glad they will make PVE servers or private but if it’s a paid service or is a punishment for not playing the normal server ( would people like u would agree to a no progression server) >

Well people like me, you mean people who bought it knowing its a game with PvP and do not complain that it has PvP? People who are playing the game how the dev's intend it to be played? Those people? Well your question is a rather silly one since people like me are you know playing the game. I play on PvE servers on other games so its not like I am anti PvE servers but to me it just doesnt make sense for this game and sorry to inform you but employees of seem to Rare agree. I play on private servers on other games aswell and many of them I can not do what I can do on the public server on the private one. By the way I am not against private servers as I have said but with any private server I think its important to keep the games core and vision intact and sorry to inform you but the devs feel the same way.

This game isnt doing just fine for the amount Microsoft have poured into it I would imagine ( creating a game and supporting it with no real initial sales ent cheap so.... this game for it to peak at 50,000 on steam compared to games that have millions on non peak times this is the reason they have become a money grab with pets and other nonsense instead of real content because it ent really successful not compared to a PlayStation exclusive that lost out to another PlayStation exclusive for game of the year.>

Well pets and cosmetics in micro transactions were actually discussed very early on in game release, its not something Rare just did out of desperation for money, it was planned from the start. Plenty of games have micro transactions even the most successful ones so bad example.

You speak as though Rare will be going out of business any day now. I am sure they appreciate your concern however I really do not think you need to stress yourself so much about their finances. The game is at a healthy state right now.

I will end with this -In life when it seems like everyone you cross paths with is being toxic sometimes they are actually not the toxic ones in the situation.

@daddy382 said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

Maybe when the game was brand-new, it needed PvP. It doesn't anymore. There is more than enough gameplay here to keep me happy and busy with only PvE and co-op.

Alot of that game play though-forts, skelly fleets, faction voyages, emissaries rely on a PvPvE environment though. See that is the issue with adding PvE servers. Its an issue that is pointed out by posters here and by the creators of the game itself so I am not sure why so many act like people who do not agree with PvE servers are out of line.

In fact, I was dead-set against getting it for him because I knew there was no PvE/private server mode. But his grandmother bought it for him, and I was right, we both hate the PvP. We are enjoying the game anyway because the player density is low and not everyone is out for blood, but we would enjoy it a lot more with no PvP at all. When we do encounter it, it's very negative.

Those grandma's always buying kids what their parents dont want them to have. What is negative about your encounter?

Open it up to players of more kinds! You can expand your vision. Ark: Survival Evolved is mostly a tribal PvP game, but it has private servers and PvE rules for those who choose, and we enjoy that just the two of us, too.>

Comparing games does not always work though. Whats good for Ark may not be good for SOT. I play Ark on a paid for private server and I would say can not compare Ark to SOT.

@theargonaut144 said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

I've just got up to 38 hours in the game, so I think I've given it a fair crack of the whip.

Got it on Steam(PC), seemed like a very good game.

And it is, unless you happen to meet anyone at all on the seas. I have yet to experience anything other than total and utter toxic players systematically ruining the session or being downright vile.

There are nice people out there. If I ran into you and saw you were new I would help you. So do not think everyone is horrible.

Some of the complaints in this thread that players should learn how to play, avoid conflict, or simply accept it's part of the game appear to be wholly from people who enjoy being toxic, by nicking loot, destroying ships for nothing or generally being the kind of person who's behaviour is strangling it. I could've sunk hundreds of hours into this I think.

Those are not complaints, those are what one would call suggestions. Someone suggested a new player should learn how to play a game before fully writing it off? Oh the horror! Someone suggest avoiding conflict if one does not want conflict? Wow, how toxic of them. Accept that PvP is part of a PvPvE game? Oh yes surely they must be a big time griefer. Also stealing loot while I do not do it, it is not toxic.

The underlying argument people are making against PvE seems to be "But... but.... I'll have no one to nick things from!It's what the game is supposed to be!" - so it's not really PvP as it is very very rarely a straight stand up fight. Usually some fool turns up and sinks your anchored ship, -doesn't even take your loot - and sails off again shouting obscenities through the mouthpiece. That aint PvP and don't pretend it is. It's a crew being nasty - plain and simple. If you want to be like this then fill your boots and drive new players away in droves, but as a paying customer I think I should be allowed to give some feedback and hope to improve the game for me too.

People concerns about the development of PvE servers go beyond "oh I wont have anyone to steal treasure from" Maybe read topics on this more and also you can read what Rare devs have to say about it.

If I'm on a private server and I get a cool flag or hull or whatever what do you care? There seems to be loads of PvE content which can keep me happy. I just don't want my time wasted by someone turning up and smashing up my Fort Raid after we've spent an hour getting the vault open. There's nothing else to call that other than being a toxic PoS.

Seriously your fort raid? This is when gamer entitlement comes to play. It is not your fort raid. Did you happen to notice the big glowing skull in the sky? That skull is a signal to ALL ships on the server, all whopping six of them that there is a fort going on. See that raid is everyones raid not yours. You do not own a fort raid just because you got there first.

I have a feeling PvE servers would be much more full and vibrant than the current servers as I suspect the amount of people who simply want to sail about, digging things up, solving puzzles and fighting Ghost Ships far far outweighs those who get their fun by ruining it for others. IF you want to do that, join the PvPvE server, let those of us who quite like not getting screwed over to play on our own in a PvE server . - This would of course mean griefers have only got each other to grief, which tends to get them all upset.

I do all that just fine, sail around, sink skelly ships dig up those annoying treasure chests, sometimes are there bumps in the road sure but not enough to make me feel the devs need to give me a PvE only option.

I have read the thread in full, so please refrain from the "Learn the game","Form an Alliance","It's part of the game, so you brought the wrong game","Don't change my game to suit you!", and so on. I think if you're defending PvP in open waters, you simply like screwing others over for kicks otherwise you'd be in the arena doing PvP properly.

Nope wrong. The only people I screw with on open waters are ships that come after the ship I am on first. Also many of those I feel are valid responses, even suggestions but if you do not want to learn the game then dont.

Anyone got a date when Private Servers are due to be launched or is it just Urban-Internet myths?>

Its not a myth, here is an article you read on it.

You are clearly new and frustrated so sorry if I come off as harsh. I actually do understand your frustration and its not easy coming new into any game that has been out a couple years. I actually would sincerely offer you help but as you said you are not interested in learning the game so nothing can do to help you.

@theargonaut144 said in PvE-Mode with seperate progression (Pirates vs. AI):

I've just got up to 38 hours in the game, so I think I've given it a fair crack of the whip.

You've dipped your toes in the water, yes, still best to not go inviting trouble yet though, but hang on....

I just don't want my time wasted by someone turning up and smashing up my Fort Raid after we've spent an hour getting the vault open. There's nothing else to call that other than being a toxic PoS.

Your Fort? Really? The one with your name on it or the one with the massive "Come here to get yer PvP action boys and girls and contest all this loot" skull beacon above it? Learn to keep your head down dude until you know what's what. Oh sorry, just seen the next bit....

I have read the thread in full, so please refrain from the "Learn the game","Form an Alliance","It's part of the game, so you brought the wrong game","Don't change my game to suit you!", and so on. I think if you're defending PvP in open waters, you simply like screwing others over for kicks otherwise you'd be in the arena doing PvP properly.

I dislike Arena, my son loves it. I love the unpredictability of adventure mode. Two days ago I reached the site of a Reapers Bounty and a Brig rolled up, I dropped sails and went over to investigate was unsure of their intentions so unloaded a few cannon shots on them, it then became apparent they were noobs and they had no wood to fix the holes I had made so I ended up boarding and fixing up their ship for them and giving them half my supplies. I left their ship with them thanking me profusely. About an hour later I stumbled into them again engaging a ghost fleet lol and their ship was sinking so picked them up and we fought the fleet on my ship together for a while until they died because they forgot to eat! Hopefully they have a nice story to tell people about Sea of Thieves.

Not all stories end like that, I personally wish more did because it's those that make the game great for me, I remember acts of kindness and playing shanty's with strangers. If all the decent people stayed on the servers instead of running away the toxics (there are some here of course as there are in all online games which just reflects the real world out there) would get watered down more and more.

I still get sunk or killed by toerags occasionally but turn in at outposts often and am generally not much of a snowflake so don't really care tbh, it's just a game. But since you don't take advice ignore that.

@itskingbertie if it's a xbox exclusive how comes it's on steam clever clogs ?