Streamer Private Servers

@captain-coel

"Most expect these server to have 0 progression" = "We don't really know, but we're hoping that's the case because if anyone can just play in peace then we won't have easy kills and that won't be any fun :("

I could see this eventually happening with the Sea of Thieves Affiliate program. But I’d say it’s still a ways off yet, and I can’t imagine it would behave the same way as a standard server as far as progression is concerned.

@captain-coel kinda like when they added arena? Funny how that always is forgotten when anyone invokes the "vision" of the game.

@entspeak I'll sum up the conversation for you:

@Captain-Coel said we can't add private servers because it "goes against the 'vision' of the game"

Then I replied that arena also "goes against the 'vision' of the game" and was added.

Thus, it is not a good argument against private servers. I also don't know what the obsession with stopping people playing on private servers and "progressing" is. Who cares what other people do that makes them happy.

@Deckhands How is posting a link to a petition for private servers in a thread about private servers spam exactly?

@captain-coel You don't have to re-explain it to me, I understand what your argument is.

Can't wait until a change.org petition actually affects change. Should be any day now.

@entspeak It's not an "oversimplified argument", it is a point that directly refutes the point "goes against the 'vision' of the game". The mere fact that they are going to add private servers refutes it.

@vaikyro Then that becomes a private server. It would allow 4-5 groups of people to sail the seas together either as a wrecking crew causing trouble or make server alliances that much easier to get into.

I am all for no progression in a server though if you want to have fun doing stories with friends or searching for the kraken to take down, but it could be even more heavily exploited if progression was allowed. We even have a #NotmyPL because he was server jumping to other people's ships to take advantage of them turning in the spoils. I think it would be fun to allow community hosted events like races and treasure hunting, but do not allow any rewards, commendations, or actually in game progression to happen on those servers.

@nightmare247365 What if there was progression, but just different commendations?
What if instead of "Pirate Legend" you could earn "Pirate Explorer" or something on private servers? Would you be OK with that?

@rowge-gaming No, I do not think so. Honestly because of a few different things. Firstly, a Streamer or someone else who privately hosted a server takes away from others in the game. I am not saying that people like the PVE or PVP only aspect, but there are certain commendations and now an entire emissary dedicated to attacking other ships. IF people could avoid that it eliminates the possibility for others to earn that commendation. Why eliminate or make one group extremely difficult to earn while making another extremely easy to earn because everyone is friendly.

The other thing I dislike and this is nothing against you or anyone else for that matter is that the servers have already been split once. That split being Xbox only and everyone. If you add in PVP or Private Servers now you split the player base another X amount of times.

@nightmare247365 There are many games that have things you would consider "splitting the playerbase" and have done just fine. I have yet to see any evidence that supports this argument.

@rowge-gaming That is completely fair and I cannot show any evidence, but if one of my friends is on Xbox and I want to randomly jump in but they have Xbox Only on I cannot do so. They must jump out of the game, change the settings, and restart everything in order for me to join. That splits my personal player base.

However, my argument about negating one entire Emissary and commendations is factful.

@nightmare247365 whenever I hear this, I like to point out that there are hundreds of thousands of people that play this game regularly. How many people do you think would play on a private server if they could? If the number is small, it doesn't affect you at all. If the number is huge, then that is evidence that this is something that people want

@rowge-gaming However, because people want it does not mean it should happen. I want to win the lottery, but it does not mean it should happen or that I will. Same way people want a new Fable game, but it does not mean it will happen.

I know there is a want, but what I want is to fight people who do not want to fight. I want people to fear the fact that they just completed 5 missions in a row or completed a fort of the damned and they still are at stake of losing it. I may not actually fight anyone most days, but I still want it to be a threat in the game.

@nightmare247365 "However, because people want it does not mean it should happen"

I can respect that. We can agree to disagree on that. I think that for me, it is just my personality, I'm the kind of "hey man, just let the kids play" kind of person.

Having said that, I don't disagree with the argument that there are people in the game that do want the threat of PvP, I just disagree that it would disappear with private servers.