Rebalance Legendary Sea Dog

@galactic-geek I think your taking it to literally. I more mean that just because there are people that have completed at it's current or past absurd time investment/grind doesnt mean it cant be made more balanced for other members of the community.

@sk-xenoglossy didnt you post this like 8 days ago? nothing has changed.

@sk-xenoglossy you only have to wait 5 minutes in the lobby? Oh how I envy you.

With the new arena, this commendation is not nearly as tedious as it once was. It's actually a shame that those who grinded this before the time nerf got nothing to show of for. You can easily play and win 20+ matches a day. I grinded this title for more than 3 weeks, everyday, trying to get at least 10 wins each day.

So please don't complain. It's so much easier now. And Sloop lobbies are fast. Just stay away from the Galleon.

@mathemoto said in Rebalance Legendary Sea Dog:

You can easily play and win 20+ matches a day. I grinded this title for more than 3 weeks, everyday, trying to get at least 10 wins each day.

So please don't complain. It's so much easier now. And Sloop lobbies are fast. Just stay away from the Galleon.

I'm not taking sides on the debate but I wouldn't assume that all players have the skill (both themselves and that of their crewmates) and the free time available to get 20 Arena wins daily.

Speaking for myself as an example, if Sea of Thieves were the only game I played then I might be able to take part in maybe an average of 4 Galleon contests a day. I think the most I've ever managed in a day was 5. I know you've said to stay away from Galleon but since this was the original ship for Arena and is still presented as an option so it should still be a viable option for players.

Ultimately that's probably Rare's biggest balancing act with the game in terms of content, providing enough content to keep those that can play 20+ games a day with things to do but not excluding those that because of work or other personal considerations can maybe only dedicated a few hours a week to playing one video game.

For a player such as yourself if you can get 20+ wins a day then yes it's only a matter of weeks, for those that can maybe only play a few rounds a week and aren't guaranteed a first place spot it could conceivably take years. In this situation making it quicker annoys the first group and it's current length annoys the second group, Rare can't win either way the best they can do is, through their understanding of who their player base is, making a decision that best suits the majority.

I suspect that whilst all of us here will have beliefs on that none of us will have the data to say definitively what the commendation would need to be set at to ensure it was still an achievement and required work but was realistic to achieve.

Arena 2.0 already implemented what you asked for. All those who obtained the title prior to the update committed some serious time and energy into the game mode. Arena 2.0 has not only decreased the play time, but also the wait time in lobbies. I’m sorry bud, but I’ll have to disagree. Any easier and the title loses all meaning.

@chris5626 That's a fair point.

@mathemoto I'm sorry but your opinion on what can easily be done is obviously skewed. You say one can easily win 20+ matches a day but assuming an 80% win rate and 5 minute lobby wait that's 8.6 hours of play time a day. That is in no way "easily" done by anyone with a job or life outside the game.

@promotordj All Arena 2.0 did was cut it down from an absolutely ridiculous 145 hours to complete, to a still absurd 100 hours. 100 hours into just Arena is more than some of the most in depth single player experience games that have come out in recent memory. Its absurd and needs to be rebalanced to be in line with other Legendary unlock commendations or the Legendary items need to be moved to a different commendation. Locking them behind Legendary Sea Dog made no sense as it was anyway.

@goose-ro-dah My reason for the change request is not based on wanting the title, it's based on the fact that Legendary Sea Dog is a legendary equipment unlock commendation and is not currently balanced with the rest of the legendary unlock commendations. Honestly I'd be fine if rare just moved those items to different commendation but kept Legendary Sea Dog as hard as it was to obtain. Ultimately I'm just asking for balance amoung the legendary equipment unlocks.

Oh hey it's the same guy who made the exact post 4.5 weeks ago, don't think I don't remember you. We already told you, it got buffed this update. 15 minute matches instead of 24. If you can't win then the only good advice is get good. Go to adventure mode and only fight ships to practice. Practice aiming your gun on the bell on the boat. Try camping at an outpost waiting for someone to sell an Athena. With these skills you can win more arena games.

@sk-xenoglossy I agree. Obtaining the Legendary Sea Dog title is a large time commitment. I thought the same and was very intimidated when I started pursuing the title when Arena 1.0 was released a year ago. It took me months of time and a crew that I really enjoyed playing with. I had to really understand and perfect the PvP mechanic. You can't think of that title as a quick and easy goal. It takes skill, it takes practice, it takes time, and it takes strategy. When I encounter a pirate or a crew of pirates that either wear that title or use those Legendary weapons, I KNOW they are a solid crew and that encounter is going to be challenging.

Overall, this game isn't about quick and easy commendations. This is an adventure game that provides an experience over time. Most every single commendation takes time and commitment. It took me TWO years to obtain the Merchant Shipwright title by scrapping through every barrel, picking up every bottle, and delivering 50 Wood Crates on time. It definitely took me well over 145 hours to complete that commendation and title. Is 50 Wood Crates too many? Is their mission spawn rate too few and far between? I don't think so. It definitely was challenging and frustrating at times as it could be days or weeks between occurrences of the mission. But it's part of the adventure and very rewarding when you finally finish these commendations.

My advice, don't try to complete these commendations in one try, but think of them as progress over time. Otherwise, you'll have the view point that you currently have as being too difficult or too time consuming.

If Arena were any fun to play I'd be against you.
I also do not give a damn about titles. I just want that fancy sword.

@captain-narwha1 less time does not equate to an easier commendation.

@mferr11 also we get it. you spent 10 months doing this commendation on 300+ ping. That doesn't mean everyone else has to go through something that tedious.

@revanjstone I will tell you what pirate legend weapons have to do with the arena. Rare was salivating to get into the e-sports realm and needed a lure to get people to play their awful and broken new game mode so at least the numbers would make it look like a success.

Agreed, their is PL stuff i want to unlock, but i do not play arena, and being forced to win 240 games for it is a bit of a joke.

@william-flint This is my hunch as well. They put those weapons there to push players to play the game mode.

Personally I think they should have two ways to unlock.

Arena - current amount of wins.

Adventure - each weapon having Multiple goals so it takes many hours of adventures to get them.

To make all those players who need a cosmetic to make them feel more important happy. Give the players who got the 240 wins now glowing Legendary weapons. Like the Year 1 PL blunderbuss. So that way they can still feel important.

@goose-ro-dah I don’t understand why the pve lords want everything to be handed to them and want it with the least amount of work possible. Overcome your fear of pvp and go play some arena it’s not hard at all

@sherpa725 B.S. It's not about not wanting to pvp, it's about not wanting to waste time in a boring, broken imitation of the real game. The weapons could easily be tied to pvp in adventure, where people were waiting for legendary weapons for over a year before the pile of garbage that is arena was even released.

It sounds more like you’re not a lsd. If the only thing you want is the weapons and with little to no sacrifice than maybe adventure is for you, bud. You can still rock briggy’s sword though.

They reduced the game time with 10 minutes, it gives you the chance to compete in more games each hour, why is it we can't have a decent challenge without people losing their mindst? You want the weapons? Play arena, if you don't like arena? You don't get the weapons. That's a simple business. I completed this and even the triumphant sea dog way before this update. I've learned to work more efficient under pressure and refined my combat skills in this game mode - if your complains are you are: solo, bad at pvp or just don't like it, it is your chance to evolve and grow a little bit - be a better pirate and make you deserve this spicy weaponry 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

its way easier to get with the new arena now I think and more fun.. just go for sloops. galleons are too hard to win on... right now im grinding wins with a buddy and trying to get 10 wins a day. I know that's a lot of time commitment but that's what it takes.. these guns are special in the game, and only belong to those who took the time to grind for it, kind of like the gold curse. The more you play arena, the better you will get which means more wins.... if they do change it however say to like 100 wins, then they should add another weapon set for the 240 wins. its only fair to the people who have grinded for it, especially old arena.

@promotordj Couldn't have said it better.

@baronbrr It means precisely that...minus the 300 ping. If you want it bad enough then do it, if not then forget it, Changing it now is BS for those that put in the work. You can ask rare to not put in future tasks that are so time consuming into the game sure but once a task is out and set and people have grinded it out then leave it be. You devalue the work many have put in otherwise.