Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!

@rikology Welcome to an open world game. Is it cowardly? Meh. Did you have to chase them for 30 minutes? Meh. You seemed stubbornly intent on getting their loot and they seemed stubbornly intent on not letting you have it. Sounds about equally stubbornly intent to me.

@rikology said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

I was solo and they were two... The whole point of the game is to be a thief, it's in the name…The devs always try to encourage player interaction but letting people sail into the shroud for their loot to be inaccessible feels like the opposite...

Just because its in the name doesn't mean that's the only way you're allowed to play the game, make you're own experiences and play how you like. To say that the whole point of the game is to simply be a thief is stubborn thinking.

Despite this comment, I'm inclined to agree with you on the actual issue at hand. Sailing into the red just so someone doesn't get your loot is rather annoying.

@rikology Players are free to do what they want in this open world, it was their decision to do it this way.

I had situation like this: I took Reapers chest and wanted to sell it on Reaper's Hideout, but it was ocupaied by Brig and Sloop in alliance waiting for me and Galleon was chasing me through whole map to take the chest. I was on sloop and could not win in this battle. So should I give up because enemies are outnumbered? Of course no!!! :)
I was moving for 40 minutes near edge of the map seeing how Galleon is trying to catch me and when I tired of this circus I moved into the shoud with the Reaper's chest. After respawn I decided to visit Galleon near edge of the map, their crew were trying to get the Reaper's chest - without result :)

So you did not give them play how they want and they did not give you what you wanted. It is fair :)))

Try your luck next time

@schwammlgott said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

@corkbottle and what happens, if I accidently sail into the shroud and able to return? Do I lose the stuff earlier then because the game thinks so?

I was under the impression that this would only occur when the ship actually sunk and not just fly off the ship when you hit the red.

@rikology said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

@corkbottle I'll correct myself because you're right...being a thief isn't the whole point but it is a big factor for sure.... Where would the game be if every interaction ended with one of the ships running into the shroud?!

Agreed!

@schwammlgott said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

@corkbottle ohh...so as soon as you sink, it floats up near the edge?
But I am against this idea, I don't do this, but it's a legit way to "safe" the loot from you...

Yeah, from how I interpreted the OP, that's how I imagined it would happen. I'm on the fence with the idea now, I can see peoples point when they say that pirates would rather see their loot at the bottom of the sea then in the hands of another pirate.

@rikology You lose in chasing that ship and you are mad about it. You lose in that case.

What you will do it is your business, but saying that someone is coward it is at least not polite. Facing outnumbered enemy and trying to win in already lost battle it is not the way to give it all to enemy, if you understand what I mean.

On a base level I am ok with this behavior. However, when representing a trading company as an emissary, I believe that there should be some kind of incentive to avoid the Red Sea.

@rikology написал в Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

@venvip1983 I never called anyone a cowards... I called that mindset cowardly... something stitcher Jim would do!

Mindset cowardly it is when players are not playing by your rules?

You were chasing sloop for 30 minutes and you could not get it. Players didn't want to fight with you, maybe you should let them go their way?

I understand - you are pirate. So you pushed them to lose their loot, but you didn't win. You ruined their voyage and got banana :)

Sometimes you should respect other players hard work and their time, if they are not agressive players.

@rikology said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

@bugaboo-bill I don't think it takes any tactics to sail into the shroud, I purposely used actually tactics to corner them into the map with no way around me.... then they took the cowards way out

You intentionally cornered them at the Red Sea, knowing that they could go in, and, somehow, thinking that, after 30 minutes of chasing, they’d say, “Okay... we’re here at the Red Sea... nothing more we can do, you win... here’s the loot”? Sounds like you did this to yourself.

Just because the game is about thievery doesn’t mean that someone has to willing surrender their stuff to you... especially when you’ve - for some bizarre reason known only to you - decided to corner them in a place where you knew dumping the loot was an option. Seriously, it never occurred to you, as you chased this duo toward the corner of the map and they never turned to fight, that they’d Red Sea the loot?

The kind of people who sail into the Red to avoid giving up loot are the same kind of people who flip the game board. In they end they get what they want, where no one wins anything.

Sore losers in my book.

I look at it this way, it wasn't their loot nor was it yours. It belonged to no one until it is turned in. Those that do this have accepted the fate of the loot and so be it. No skin off my back.

@nabberwar I’m inclined to agree. Unless someone’s cheating in order to get my loot (haven’t had that happen yet), I’m not going to Red Sea it.

@rikology said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

I just chased a sloop on my sloop for about 30mins.... I was gradually catching them due to better ship movements ect eventually I cornered them on the edge of the map and they just gave up and sailed all their loot and level 5 emissary into the shroud and they sunk themselves...

I could see their loot in the water but couldn't get to it as I kept getting TP'ed back to my ship!!

Stop this cowardly behaviour and the 'If I can't have it nobody can' mindset by spawning loot in the shroud at the edge of it where it is accessible!

What would happen if we simply entered the shroud as a means to escape because we have a full crew and lots of planks. Simply try to outlast you and sail back..

The loot would simply fall off the ship?

Nah that wouldnt be very good.
Its a pass from me.