@sparkiebeard
From what I understand thanks to @D3ADST1CK above there is no difference except the overlay (ie the game bar) and the fact you dont need to use the xbox app.
Although the app is awful I doubt I'd pay again for a game that I've been playing happily for 2 years on pc.
I doubt they are aiming it at the likes of us tho.
Huge untapped PC market.
@baronbrr 🤷♂️
Apart from the achievements i dont quite get the difference in versions, theyre both pc. I guess they will be on steam servers rather than ms servers but crossplay shares the load somehow?
Im sure it has better lfg. Dont know about overlays and whether they help/give an advantage. Hopefully steam are strict on hacks and cheats
@scoobywrx555 said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
@baronbrr 🤷♂️
Apart from the achievements i dont quite get the difference in versions, theyre both pc. I guess they will be on steam servers rather than ms servers but crossplay shares the load somehow?
Nope. It's just a new store. And that's a really great advantage, because, more people can discover it, and buy it, so that's more people playing. And also, steam users will have crossplay with other players.
@baronbrr said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
@kang-prawn forgive my ignorance, but what is so bad about Microsoft store.
Well, for some users it gives a hell out of problems in order to download it, sometimes making users to re-install the game. And also, Xbox inviting is so much pain...
@eggamer13 still find it odd unless its coming to win7 then i would get it. Otherwise steam is just a loader and sot has always been sitting in a win10 built-in store not needing to be discovered because of people refusal to use it.
With many xbox players prefering to be seperate, it will be better for pc players.
I see they ms are putting others halo etc into steam, just hope it doesnt undermine the use of the store and its xbox ecosystem.
@scoobywrx555 PC players would probably be more accepting of the xbox ecosystem if it wasn't complete garbage tbf. Needs 2 different apps to get everything working and still lacks basic features that have been present in steam for years.
No wonder that no one likes the MS store on pc.
@give-me-a-vb sagte in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
when this goes ahead i really think we will need an option to not be matched with steam players as its just going to be filled with hackers now
Any reason to believe that people are more likely to risk losing their steam account compared to losing their ms account? Or better: proof?
@give-me-a-vb said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
when this goes ahead i really think we will need an option to not be matched with steam players as its just going to be filled with hackers now
Xbox players, back with the hacking bogeyman again, just because they don't wanna play with other platforms.
Shameful.
If you were winning that particular argument then MS wouldn't be releasing anything on Steam.
Guess you guys shoulda spent more money and convinced more people to buy Xboxes, coz your platform is shared now, and it's never going back, lol.
@give-me-a-vb said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
when this goes ahead i really think we will need an option to not be matched with steam players as its just going to be filled with hackers now
I wonder how the servers work between the two versions, will the steam servers have VAC protection to minimise the limit the likelihood of hacks and mods
@scoobywrx555 No obv. There will be no “Steam servers” hence no Steamworks. So VAC won’t be available. It will be same as the Halo on Steam. Pop-up to log into MSS and your progress will carry over. It will be exactly same as playing on the MSS but with Steam’s social features (in Master Chief Collection you can invite people thru Steam so it should also work in SoT aswell)
@boomtownboss said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
It's going to be most interesting to be able to get a perspective on the active players. Steam shows the active players on steam. Rares has aggressively hid their active player numbers ever since 30 days after the release. They dont want to admit it's a flop.
If it is such a flop, then why has it ranked as the 14th most played game on Xbox for the last 2 weeks? And consistently been around #20 for well over a year now? The game is anything but a flop no matter how you try to spin it.
@scoobywrx555 said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
@give-me-a-vb said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
when this goes ahead i really think we will need an option to not be matched with steam players as its just going to be filled with hackers now
I wonder how the servers work between the two versions, will the steam servers have VAC protection to minimise the limit the likelihood of hacks and mods
The game still runs on Microsoft servers, not Steam. Steam is just the launcher and storefront, they have nothing to do with the game's servers and will be no different than the Win 10 store version.
@dlchief58 ah right, so really down to how long youve used steam, friends list and whether you prefer steam achievements over xbox achievements etc.
@expiredbread971 yes, you will keep everything you currently have including your levels and reputations. There will be no difference between Steam and MSS. Only difference is being able to use steams social media and features
@sparkiebeard to put it bluntly.
Steam is a lot better, faster, more reliable and has more features.
Most pc gamers wince at the idea of using the Microsoft storefront or Xbox companion app (which is buggy as hell).
Then add to the fact most of your friends will be arranging games via steam (even before you launch the game), it's a no brainer that people will want to use the superior system.
As proven by other developers and publishers, there's no reason at all not to provide free steam copies for people who already own the game.
I've already made a post regarding this, but it was more 'emotionally' driven, as I truly do care about this game, I wanted to make almost a follow up to cover some of the points I've seen brought up while reading through this thread, and to just add some more thoughts to the discussion.
One common one is; 'What is the big difference between owning/ playing the game on Windows 10 Store Vs. Steam'. I've seen a lot of replies along the lines of; 'I'm not so sure apart from the 'shift+tab' overlay', and there are quite a few thoughts I would like to add to this.
The main difference is (frankly :P) everything. Most PC users who play games know of Steam, use Steam, and have most of their other gaming-related stuff on Steam. It is just way more convenient, as that is where everything else is for a majority of users, this is without even thinking about all of the other benefits of having the game on Steam, such as being able to 'shift+tab' and reply to messages, invite friends through the steam overlay (My windows game bar still doesn't work/ show invites/ notifications), reply to messages on Steam (I've personally been messaged on Steam while ingame on Sea of Thieves, and had to tab out to see/ reply), Steam achievements, Steam friends, etc. Some of my friends have been curious about getting into Sea of Thieves, but were stopped by the fact that they would need to get it through the Windows 10 store, just because it's 'another launcher to add to all the others'. Many of them would likely have gotten into and enjoyed Sea of Thieves a lot due to this.
One other huge area on Steam is the Steam community; guides, discussions, artwork, screenshots, videos, etc.
Even one large benefit is just being able to share your ingame screenshots on Steam (Especially since this is a beautiful game, and screenshots just beg to be shared), the ability to write/ use guides (for instance in the 'shift+tab' menu while in game), for instance to find a specific clue spot on a riddle if you're lost, or maybe get some help if you're stuck on a specific part of a tall tale. Then there's discussions, where people can talk about anything related to the game, and also give bug reports/ inquire about anything in the game.
Artwork and videos are both also great, people can post artwork related to the game (of which there is a large amount of I'd have to assume), and 'videos' to share videos relating to the game (pretty self-explanatory).
The large problem, is if you do not own the game on Steam, You are not able to access a large amount of this. For instance; if you don't own the game on Steam, you can't write guides for said game, which is quite a big deal. As most of the more 'seasoned veterans' in the game, who could actually write up these guides, are likely players on Xbox/ Win10 store.
There are a large of reasons why having the game on steam is a preferred option for a large number of players, including myself, and many around me.
To close off I would like to say; I'm ecstatic that the game is coming to Steam, and I hope this post didn't make it seem like I'm against the game coming to Steam. Plus, I'm sure the Steam release will do miracles for the playerbase (and sales) of the game, but I still would rather not have to double dip to get it on Steam. As I've said in my original post; back when I bought the game way over a year ago, Windows 10 store was the only Store where I could get it on PC, if it was avaliable on Steam back then, I would have gotten it on Steam in a heartbeat. Plus, since the Steam release is the same platform as the Windows 10 store (i.e. both PC, using largely the same game, with maybe some SteamWorks additions) double-dipping is not really something I would like to do.
So please, do consider a similar path to Steam as Bethesda did with fallout 76, or at least offer a compelling discount to anyone who owns the game on the Windows 10 Store.
No matter what though, Sea of Thieves is a fantastic game, So thank you Rare for the fantastic experiences, it is truly one of the most enjoyable games I have ever played! <
@brayo1991 Agreed. As for someone who pre order the game, bought some of the promotional items such as the Chips ahoy or SoT store. It be great to have a code for a free copy or just a heavy discount say ten bucks. Because if this game was at least sold on steam at the same time. The seas would be more alive and this would be my most played game if it happened.
Any chance on the Steam FAQ?
Could someone link me the FAQ page please.
Also: https://i.redd.it/gxjtq8sv5ir41.png - May 27th for Steam.
@kush-n-bacon420 said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
Let's hope this means that Rare has done away with the garbage UWP wrapper for the Steam version, and that we can finally have proper fullscreen mode...
I like what we have right now, I have two monitors and do a lot of ALT+TABing, specially when following a guide and I need to scroll.. It does not mess up my setup on the second monitor.
Some games when I tab out, I do whatever, tab back and throws my second monitor all over the place OR changes the resolution.. With SoT it does not effect me like that.
@kush-n-bacon420 I'm pretty sure microsoft confirmed they were doing away with that a while ago, and in the process of allowing non UWP games on to the microsoft store as well to attract more third parties.
@menphuess, What you're describing is a game that has only exclusive fullscreen mode, and no borderless windowed mode. For games like that you can use a program called fullscreenizer to make it borderless windowed, which is essentially the same as fullscreen. Additionally what you described is a game that probably isn't running at the native resolution of your monitor.
It's extremely annoying how when my mouse gets close to the edge of the screen, the taskbar pops up. This is especially prevalent when you're trying to dig up chests in an X marks the spot quest. Every time I go to pull out my shovel I have to really try to not make the taskbar popup; it almost always happens and the game winds up losing focus because of it.
If that bug didn't exist, I probably wouldn't care... but it does, and has for years; and the only solution is probably moving away from being a UWP app.
@troubled-cells said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
@kush-n-bacon420 I'm pretty sure microsoft confirmed they were doing away with that a while ago, and in the process of allowing non UWP games on to the microsoft store as well to attract more third parties.
Indeed yeah, they started allowing non-UWP apps onto the Microsoft store a while back; but this doesn't mean you can't release a UWP app there, and it doesn't mean that existing ones will ever convert. I can hope, though :)
@musicmee said in Sea of Thieves Coming to Steam! Discussion and Feedback:
Has any company every released the genuine number of active right now players?
Not bashing the idea, just not sure anyone has ever done it?
Wargaming does with the Xbox World of Tanks. They have a live counter showing the amount of players in total playing at that moment plus the counter showing how many are on your server region.
Example
7623/15,498 with me being on a US server.
Out of the 15,498 total players at that moment 7623 are playing on US servers and the rest are on EU servers.
Well stated, ... my thoughts exactly.
I'd also like to pitch in my desire for a free Steam key for current owners of the game.
