I know this subject is talked about over and over but I also want to say my words about it. I really love Sea Of Thieves, it's clearly my favourite game of 2019 (and I hope it will also be for 2020) but unfortunately I cannot play it as much as I want... because of other players. What I love the most is the atmosphere of the game, the environnement, the quest, each isles' details and secrets. I'm not a lot into fighting (even PVE) but I'm really more into exploration and quests (and pets, they are lovely :D) and I know that there's a lot of people like me. Moreover, a game is meant to be played and if I'm alone or even with a friend of mine, I will be stressed most of the game because of 4 members' crew ship against which you can't do anything (4 cannons, twice more manpower...) and I will just not launch the game because of it... I just want to be able to appreciate the game for its beauty, its depth, the adventure and to have a good time playing it alone or with friendly and not mean players. If only you could implement PVE and peaceful servers so that the players could chose at the beginning if they want to play an adventure against each other or just for the game in itself ; it won't change anything, the classical servers will stay the same and you'll just please people who wants to play without having to worry every second of their game-time. I know SoT is about multiplayer, Piracy and thieves but it's just unplayable in solo or even duo. And a peacefull server will also allow people to make friends around the game, as we will perceive others as help and not as a threat, I'm certain it would be really beneficial for everyone, the amount of active player will grow, there won't be anymore ragequit or people afraid to play. Thanks a lot for reading me if you did and I really hope that Rare will one day listen to the part of the community that thinks like me.
A peaceful mode ?
@scordralion Stop making more posts about this! There are already 100's that you can add your voice too. I hope @Deckhands start to crack down on this habbit of multiple threads being made on the same topics every day as it's getting annoying now.
EDIT: Another 1 day at sea and forum accounts, not sure if this is just the same person whinging and making multiple accounts?
I appreciate your concerns for this game, as I do too truly love what this game was, what this game is, and what this game will be. I am a day 1 player, and this is hands down one of the most beautiful games graphically and just everything about it.
However, There is no peaceful mode and there will never be a peaceful mode. This is a Multiplayer PvEvP Sandbox game that gives YOU the opportunity to do ANYTHING you want to do. This game is meant for player interaction. With that being said, not ever server is "action" packed. Some are more dead than others, so you will find times where there is nothing going on where you have your chance to go explore what you want to do without being bothered. This doesn't mean you should not be learning the game inside and out on how to protect your self in PvP situations. I myself am a PvP player and constantly can not find any boats all the time.
Also, there are PLENTY and I mean PLENTYYYYYYYYYYY of people just DYING to Alliance with everyone because they are strictly PvE Players, so I'm sure you will find other boats flying the war flag (I mean Alliance Flag) that you can team up with =)
To react to what you said..... "the amount of active players will grow, there won't be anymore rage quit or people afraid to play" well, Sea of Thieves hit over 10 Millions players sooooooo yeah. The game has grown lol and simply if people "Rage Quit" or are "Afraid to Play" then this game is not for them.
I mean this is DIRECTLY from the Sea of Thieves Website......
"You may think the scale of this place means there's plenty of space for everyone, but you'll soon encounter other ships and crews as you undertake your voyages. It's up to you how you interact and what kind of crew you choose to be. Create allies or enemies, be benefactors or betrayers, exchange banter or broadsides – you make the call! Of course, what you can't know in advance is how other ships' crews will react upon seeing you..."
Simply Put, This game is PvEvP and this is how this game was intended to be. If you are looking strictly for PvE Pirate Games, Then try out Atlas or AC Blag Flag!
Happy Sailing!
The game is to be played as you state; this includes playing in the multiplayer shared environment. If you want to avoid others, feel free to do so as all the tools required are in the game to achieve this. Play the game as you want, but don't ask for the game to change because you don't want to fight. Do not be afraid, it is a game... you might lose at a game, that is a part of games and is something that highlights what you should improve. Pay attention to the horizon, be aware of your surroundings and pick how you want to respond. Become the pirate you want to be, master your style whether that is running away, fighting or negotiations... the choice is on you.
The game is not unplayable as a solo or a duo and there many many pirates out there that are more than capable of handling themselves. I have done cloud events solo, all the types of voyages solo, tall tales solo... seriously unplayable? No, you are unwilling to learn how to be the pirate you want to be.
If you implement safe servers the game will change, the option of being friendly or not will be made at the menu screen. Why would anyone still do a tall tale in the world that a PvP encounter can happen? Why would anyone still go and gather treasure that can be stolen? This is a pirate game and you literally want to remove the whole balance that generates the ability to steal loot from ships and allow those that like gathering it to do so in a non-blood crazed environment.
Servers have 6 ships in total, that means 5 potential crews to meet and the majority of them are out doing their own thing and not hunting you. If you avoid them, they will tend to stick to their own plan. Implement PvE safe servers: People will go to these servers to farm, gather loot and do the tall tales. People want to fight? PvP servers... meaning that the amount of people on the shared world will encounter more and more people that PvP only there, the effect they move to the PvE servers and only PvP on those, as they cannot get anything done when 5 others are chasing them around the map making it more and more a PvE and PvP only environment. This is a shared world! Why do you want to destroy that?
This is a PvEvP game and that is what many of us want to play, we do not want a PvE and PvP version to pick from based on a menu choice. You do not want to play a multiplayer game, don't play one! You do not want to play a game with PvP, go play a different game. Might sound harsh, but that is the reality... not every game can be for everyone, that isn't possible. This would not benefit many, this does not benefit everyone... stop asking for an easy mode to do things without learning to be a pirate and instead #BeMorePirate. Play the game!
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The "Days at Sea" is only relevant to how many times (days) you have been logged into the Forum, it has nothing to do with how much you play.@thor-von-blitz Ah good to know. If that is the case I have spent 460 days of my life on this forum.
Anyways I looked up the account on xbox and it says" this "you haven't played anything lately. When you do, it'll show up here" and the account has not one friend plus only 480 game points. So I guess this must be a new account this person made just to post here because it does not seem to have much game play action ? Sorry but do not trust accounts like that.
So by now, Scordralion, you have noticed that most of the people who play this game don't understand what you would enjoy in this game. Killing and killing and killing is what they really enjoy. And most of them are the ones who want you to "enjoy" the game the way they do. After all, many of them really do need easy victims like you and me.
But if you read down below, someone in here is recommending other games that "might" provide what you and I are looking for. Ironic that we are basically being asked to "love getting killed" or leave a game that is supposed to be a "social" game. I know what I'll do.
@countedbog219 Oh please, cry me a river to sail my brig on.
I was hanging out at an outpost last night with some pirate crew, me and my friend actually helped them stock up their ship because it spawned on an outpost we were shopping at. We helped them and were nice and what did we get in return? One of the crew mates pulled out a blunderbuss and one shot my friend and then killed me.
Did I come here and make a post about how the game needs change, there are too many meanies out there and I need a safe place? Nope. That my friend is just part of the world of online gaming.
I dont kill nobody in this game, not a person unless I am defending myself and even then I do not enjoy it.
Also what is wrong with recommending other games? I notice many people claim they want to play Sea of Theives but they really do not want to play Sea of Thieves they want to play their own version of Sea of Thieves that does not exist. There are plenty games out there that provide a PvE only experience, why not play those if you hate the thought of PvP so much?
@combatxkitty
You can't help the people who see themselves as perpetual victims. These kind of people tend to forget what we defend we are also subject to. I too have had my loot stolen, I too have had other crews attack for no reason when I had no loot. The difference between him and I, is that I don't see it as a problem but merely an obstacle to overcome. What fun is a game with no obstacles? With no threat of defeat there is no satisfaction with victory.@nabberwar True. Also I do not understand why some people have so many problems.
Why do some people come here and say they get killed non stop and can not play the game? How is it some people cannot seem to even spawn into the game without saying they get sunk all the time? I mean yeah my ships been sunk a few times after it spawned into an outpost but that was always my fault because I was shopping for like an hour.
I notice many of these sad tales are player error. Example one shouldn't stay at outposts long. Some people say they spent 20/ 30 minutes stocking their ship at an outpost and then some Galleon (its always a galleon in these stories) rolled up and sunk their ship. Well why in the world was someone stocking their ship for 20/30 minutes at an outpost? Its like grab what you need and get the hell outa there.
Then there are the stories of people who have sailed around for hours collecting all kinds of loot; 20 chests, 30 skulls, 50 mermaid gems, 22 golden trinkets on and on and then finally after four hours of sailing undisturbed a galleon ( its always galleon in these stories too) rolls up and sinks them. Well geez? Maybe they shoulda turned some of that treasure in oh I dont know two hours ago??? Me and my crew turn in anything we find asap. We do not care if we just found a crate of exotic spices floating in the sea that crate will be dropped off at the nearest outpost.
Then there are the people who roll up on another ship doing work on an island. Well thats something me and my crew do not do. We just wait and once the ship is done then we head over.
Then there are people who complain about skull forts. Oh I did a skull fort all by myself and then a galleon (its always a galleon in these stories too, what is it with galleons? Its like they are the symbol of pirate evil in this game) came and sunk me and took my loot. Well that is the risks of doing a PvP PvE event alone that has a giant skull head over it so everyone can see it is happening.
Just a few examples of the self induced peril stories I read here and then instead of people wanting to learn from their mistakes they just want Rare to completely change the entire vision of the game for them.
@combatxkitty said in A peaceful mode ?:
Why do some people come here and say they get killed non stop and can not play the game? How is it some people cannot seem to even spawn into the game without saying they get sunk all the time? I mean yeah my ships been sunk a few times after it spawned into an outpost but that was always my fault because I was shopping for like an hour.
It's likely 99% exaggeration. "Can't spawn into the game without being attacked" and "getting killed non stop" in these cases usually means it happened once and they got mad enough to post on the forums about it. They aren't going to tell you about the other 2 hours they spent sailing around and doing voyages in peace.
Why do some people come here and say they get killed non stop and can not play the game? How is it some people cannot seem to even spawn into the game without saying they get sunk all the time? I mean yeah my ships been sunk a few times after it spawned into an outpost but that was always my fault because I was shopping for like an hour.
This is completely foreign to me, I cannot relate to this story whenever I see it. My experience is usually the opposite of endless sessions with not a soul coming to attack me, its rather boring. I mean I see ships on occasion, but they just mind their own business almost always. I am at this point where I don't believe a single one of those kinds of posts, because I can honestly say that its probably been a year since I've had a non-stop PvP session.
The thing I find in common with those posts is a fundamental lack of situation awareness and an over-exaggeration. You always hear these key phrases, the first being "they came out of nowhere." This doesn't happen, player ships don't come from nowhere, they had to sail from somewhere. Its a problem they need to overcome, fights should never be a surprise and should be saw coming. The second is how they "lost hours of loot" its as if they had complete safety for that entire hours of play, but suddenly since you lost loot, you are being attacked 24/7? Not how it works, but keep telling yourself that.
They have the tools to their solution, they just chose to not learn them or refuse to use them.
@countedbog219 said in A peaceful mode ?:
So by now, Scordralion, you have noticed that most of the people who play this game don't understand what you would enjoy in this game. Killing and killing and killing is what they really enjoy. And most of them are the ones who want you to "enjoy" the game the way they do. After all, many of them really do need easy victims like you and me.
But if you read down below, someone in here is recommending other games that "might" provide what you and I are looking for. Ironic that we are basically being asked to "love getting killed" or leave a game that is supposed to be a "social" game. I know what I'll do.
Maybe you should read the responses more closely, we aren't stating they have to be killing and killing and more killing.
We state you can play as you please, but you will have to improve your own abilities to play the way you want. You want to avoid battle, go for it... nothing other than your own willingness to adapt and learn the game is preventing you from experiencing the PvE only session.
We get why someone would want to go out on a voyage and not battle in PvP I have done so many many times. I will continue to have days out on the seas where I am minding my own business. There is nothing wrong with that at all, sure just go out and explore the world... just be weary it is a pirates world and people will try and steal and plunder.
You place everyone in a PvP boat while reality is, there are more people that do both PvE and PvP and is what this PvEvP shared open world environment is offering. We understand your joy in PvE and we understand the joy of those seeking battles. Based on the situation and who we meet ... we play both sides.
You want to be friendly with me, you must either stay away or talk to me and convince me that I don't need to sink you. Even though you might not consider yourself a threat to others, you are a pirate and a potential killer, thief and enemy. Play accordingly! #BeMorePirate
The reason why people suggest other games is because they are good games that offer a different world, one more focused on the needs people expressing they are looking for and something the Seas of Thieves is not.
@countedbog219 @Scordralion its a pvpve game, it was specifically designed that way, not pvp, not pve but a combi of the two. But hey dont believe me believe the developers:
Be a good sport. Sea of Thieves is a pirate game, and stealth, stealing and the battles are all part of the fun. All pirates on the seas accept that, but be a good sportsman in both victory and loss.
Source: https://www.seaofthieves.com/code-of-conduct
Following we have someone that asked the question on twitter aimed at Mike Chapman (creative director at Rare) here is his answer:
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If that still isn’t enough to make you see that Rare isn’t going to add PvE servers the following URL is of the live stream they did on February 4th 2020, at 55:18 the big question gets asked, “PvE servers coming” which Jon answers with e stern “No”
Private servers are coming however, these just are mostly useless for most people, why ? Because there will be completely no progression as these servers will be meant for people and communities that set up events like but not limited to:
- Race of Legends
- Sea of Champions
- The Cursed Captain
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Hello everybody,
Thank you for reading this post :)
First of all, let me say that I know Rare has no intention for PvE servers or peaceful modes or anything similar as of this point in time. But, things might change and one can hope.
I myself have the game, but didn't put too much hours into it. I loved the idea of exploring with my wife, we are both really bad gamers, but the sailing and just walking around on an island looking to see if there's a hidden cave somewhere is fun to us. We usually die to skeletons, we always die to sharks and skeleton ships and kraken. We did however managed to survive some storms (yay for us!). We also always die if there's PvP. Some of you might say that there's no challenge in this game if there's no PvP, but for us that is untrue.
We didn't mind the occasional PvP when players of equal-ish skill level kill us and take our loot. In our experience this was rare however, most PvP we encountered were players that would just camp at an outpost or hardcore demolish us over and over again not caring about our loot.
It got to the point where we would sail to an island and pray we'd make it. When we arrived we would just send our ship out into the open ocean and explore the island and suicide when we were done, just so we could go explore our next island. And if we saw a sail on the horizon, we would hide in bushes until it went away, sometimes taking over 30 minutes. We sailed away from any skull forts or anything and never got to achieve anything in this game. I know, get good and all that, but everybody has their limits and we'll never be good gamers and we accept that. For us, the game is hard enough without having to constantly look over our shoulders.
We both quit the game, as we know this isn't the game for us at this time. But occasionally I check back on these forums to see if Rare might have changed it's mind over time. Because I believe there are solutions to be found where both kind of players (PvP focussed and PvE focussed) will be happy. The game is beautiful and offers a lot, in both PvP and PvE, even to the nooby players like me and my wife. We would love to someday come back and finish exploring all the wonderful islands that we have never set foot on, but as long as there's no PvE only mode, we won't.
Heck, for us it would even be fun if there would be no enemies at all! Even though not many people would understand or agree with me on that. I get that most people need a challenge, and that PvP is the ultimate challenge and that it's part of the game etc. For us it's challenge enough to reach an island.
TL;DR. I totally understand people wanting a peaceful mode, I'm one of them for my own reasons. I also totally get that this isn't the game for it now and maybe it'll never be. But one can hope and sometimes raise the question..
@marrl while i do agree we have to all stay civil to one another can i suggest that we start locking down these threads and pointing them to one another ?
I mean it is starting to get quite annoying to see all of these one post wonders, that have about 10 hours experience in the game (if even that) then dump their rage on these here forums and then are never to be seem again.
Personally i feel like alot of alts are being created left right and center just to every now and then to do this
This topic has been discussed to death and i keep providing them with all the proof of rares stance on this
@weedstar-deluxe said in A peaceful mode ?:
where is the problem when people saying in their first posts what they dont like about the game? i like pvp but honestly sot is full of trash talkers and tryhards
sounds like any online game with PvP
@scordralion Welcome to the forums, sailor!
I know this subject is talked about over and over but I also want to say my words about it.
So post on an already existing post... -.-'
I really love Sea Of Thieves, it's clearly my favourite game of 2019 (and I hope it will also be for 2020) but unfortunately I cannot play it as much as I want... because of other players.
Other players can't do anything to prevent you from playing, bro.
What I love the most is the atmosphere of the game, the environnement, the quest, each isles' details and secrets.
That's good, but, just FYI, the Sea of Thieves is very much a finite space, and you will eventually have seen everything there is to see, relatively fast. :P
I'm not a lot into fighting (even PVE) but I'm really more into exploration and quests (and pets, they are lovely :D) and I know that there's a lot of people like me.
Like i said, finite space, finite discoveries... The fights are there to make the exploration take a bit longer, and be more rewarding and exciting.
And yes, there are a lot of people in the world who do not like confrontation... Unfortunately, i am not one of those people... I don't go out of my way to confront other people for that matter, but if someone tries to mess with me, i am a scary efficient retaliator. xD
My point is, by trying to skip out on fights, you are, in fact, skipping out on a piece of this game's soul and essence which are vital to the experience. : /
Moreover, a game is meant to be played and if I'm alone or even with a friend of mine, I will be stressed most of the game because of 4 members' crew ship against which you can't do anything (4 cannons, twice more manpower...) and I will just not launch the game because of it...
I had that stress in the beginning too, i don't have it anymore, if you want pointers on why you're feeling it, and how to stop feeling it, just ask, i will happily share my experience with you, once i know you actually want to hear it. :)
Also, it sounds to me like you're the one preventing yourself from playing the game, no player is physically preventing you, only your own feelings are.
I just want to be able to appreciate the game for its beauty, its depth, the adventure and to have a good time playing it alone or with friendly and not mean players.
And yet here you are, making a suggestion to remove beauty, depth and adventure... :P
Rare is working on private servers though, i don't know how they're gonna work yet, what i do know is that progression will be disabled in private servers, and that you can experience the gameplay, without the rewards using them, and choose who gets to join the server of course. :)
You just can't earn cosmetics and achievements, gold and doubloons etc.
If only you could implement PVE and peaceful servers so that the players could chose at the beginning if they want to play an adventure against each other or just for the game in itself ; it won't change anything, the classical servers will stay the same
Contrary to your belief, it will completely change everything, it will split the community in half, and make adventure mode a barren wasteland, because everyone would be playing the PvE server to earn the rewards easier. : /
And the reason for that is precisely what you write next:
people who wants to play without having to worry every second of their game-time.
If there are less things to worry about, the game is easier, and you progress exponentially faster, so why would anyone bother playing on the adventure servers? Gamers have a history of taking the path of least resistance, because they are very goal-oriented. :S
I know SoT is about multiplayer, Piracy and thieves but it's just unplayable in solo or even duo.
There are TONS of players who successfully became pirate legends playing solo and/or duo.
Here's two for starters:
ME, i did. (Played alone a lot in the start, found myself a regular crewmate eventually, plenty of full-crewed galleons have tried to sink us, nearly all of them have failed, except 2, we either ran away, or sank them in under a minute)
MixelPlx (On youtube, his entire journey to PL and beyond is recorded through his hundreds of SoT streams playing either alone on sloop, or with a friend, and dominating full galleon PL ATHENA 10 crews all by himself and with a friend, the proof is in his videos, watch them, he's a really good player, better than me. xD)
And a peacefull server will also allow people to make friends around the game, as we will perceive others as help and not as a threat
Actually, friendmaking is much easier if we had some consistency to player encounters... If i could meet a certain player more than once, i'd eventually start to recognize their name, and try to socialize, this is how friendships are made.
As things are right now, i don't make many friends, because i don't meet people more than once, and accepting friend requests from strangers i just met, just doesn't sit right with me. : /
the amount of active player will grow
The amount of active players will spike for a month or two, and then drop to lower percentages than before... because everyone will have achieved what they set out to achieve, via the PvE mode, and then stopped playing completely, because there's nothing else for them to achieve. :P
there won't be anymore ragequit or people afraid to play.
Quitters aren't considered a reliable demographic... Because by definition, they quit. :P
It doesn't matter what Rare does, quitters will quit, haters will hate, and the world will still turn... This is how it's been since the beginning of time, and it's how things will be to the end of time. :)Thanks a lot for reading me if you did and I really hope that Rare will one day listen to the part of the community that thinks like me.
And i hope that they wont. : /
Just embrace the combat and get better. Then other players wont be an issue. If you're confident in dealing with every situation, then you and your friend can just roam around and don't really care about other players.
Even if PVE servers would ever happend. Rep and gold would never count towards it.
@comedicus I respect your post, because it highlights self-awareness, and i consider that to be a virtue. :)
You'll be happy to know that Rare are working on private servers... Servers you can create... I don't think you can disable enemies or anything, but you can control who is on your server, so if you want, you can be alone with your wife on said server and simply explore.
Progression is disabled on private servers though, you wont be able to earn gold, doubloons, commendations/achievements or cosmetics in a private server. :)
@weedstar-deluxe said in A peaceful mode ?:
where is the problem when people saying in their first posts what they dont like about the game? i like pvp but honestly sot is full of trash talkers and tryhards
There's no problem with it, the problem is that those who post them, are fresh accounts of people who have barely, or sometimes NEVER, played the game. -.-'
@sweltering-nick
Thank you for your reply and your friendly words!I just don't think it's fair to blame others for me being unable to defend myself. I know if it was their fault, then the game would be unplayable. But since so many players seem to enjoy it and are able to counter it, it must be me.
Those private servers sound great, we don't really care much about progression, we just like to see as much of the world as possible and this will help us do just that. Now we just need to try and avoid all the other terrors of the sea :)
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