More Toxic Double Gunning

@klemelement

Calm down and say Arrrrrr.

But yes, i support that.

DG is worse than anything else and guns in general are to op compared to cutlass.

I say make cutlass mandatory and make guns need to load when drawn, the moment you sprint, take it another tool or thw cutlass the gun is unloaded and need to be loaded again when you draw it.

To increase ttk
To have more piratish fights
To have tactics, movement and positioning skill over fingeracrobatics and quickscope aiming skills.

SoT is not a FPShooter!!!!

@klemelement

Double gun is not toxic, some players are toxic.

Unfortunately Sea of ​​Thieves doesn't have a lot of content for those who play from the beginning, everything is done very quickly or is just uninteresting. What's left? Do what the game promises: act like a pirate, that is, kill, steal, etc.

It is humanly impossible to have a community without toxic players, we will always have the guy who is not happy to kill and steal, but must also offend. Of course, I'm not talking about "offenses" like "noob", "you play really bad", or similar things, but things I can't post here on the forum, like "" or "**". (i love asterisks)

What the person does in the game against other ship's players is not being toxic, what the person says in the microphone, yes, this is toxic.

Either way, you can simply record your game and report players if you think they are being toxic.

@simplelyricc

They try to do this for 2 years now, at minimum 1 year when dging became popular by streamers.
And they seem to be unable to fix animation breaking exploits.

I agree with you if they can do it.
Swap time need to be a lot higher than actually.

DG without to exploit it is way too powerfull imho.

Why not have to reload when you draw a gun?

I played War of Rights.
It's a Team Shooter of the Succesion War.
You have the old flintlock guns and only 1 shot and you can apply a Bajonette to charge.
The reload time for your 1 shot is - keep calm - 30s.
The apply of the Bajonett is nearly equal.

The game ja immersive like hell and it's tactics and positioning, knowing what and when.

I dont say i want this for SoT.
But to me fights become 1000% more interesting and fun if they go into that direction instead of giving us another fortnite combat system.

Same for games like Chivalry or Mordhau. The combat is slow and diverse, it's about timing, positioning and knowing what weapon against what other weapon etc...

That is skilled combat, not smashing Buttons or having good reaction times and good aim.

Good aim is for shooters.
Imho SoT is not a shooter game.
At least i dont want it to become one regarding combat.

Ship combat is fine, it's exactly that, about forseeing, tactics, good maneuver Management, it's also about good aim, but slow.

Tbh i'd dislike a stamina bar.
My suggestion against bunnyhopping is: make 3 hops free, the 4th exhaust you and locks you 2s

People like to throw the word toxic around a lot these days don't they? When you overuse a term, it tends to lose its meaning.

@mr-dragon-raaar
@treefittymonsta

I also dont know why we need this sort of fast, op and exploitable gunplay.
If i think about ship combat, what is very much fun, challenging, tactical and well paced, i just wish the same for pirate fights.
Well paced, not pew pew dead in a second, but way more like hit and run, take cover, throw something, shoot, have some cutlass duelling...
I thibk it's just bad to be able to oneshot or kill each other that fast in general.
Ship combat is cool.
CCb's and Fire has enriched it and the way how luck and time of playing im a server (sessionbased) of having ccb's and fire bombs is important pleases me too.

I hope Rare can make melee and gun fights more appealing, more slow, but again more fluid, more tactical and it need more than 2s to kill someone.
Not saying there are no longer lasting fights, but this PvP DG meta and the way it is used is for sure not that much fun compared to what is possible in my opinion.

@bugaboo-bill people who think the DG is legit are the people who make TDM montages in arena. They take joy thinking they are good "wallbanging" "locking down a boat" spawn camping because in there eyes they mastered combat. But the difference between them and me is once I realize a team was new in arena id leave the boat. The double gun maybe it takes skill to learn a exploit sure. But is it fair for someone to camp a ship that's new for no reason only so they get a good video. Honestly no.

If the sword combat was made so counters and what not were a thing rather then bang bang your dead with guns the game would be way better.

I personally prefer ship battles. Main reason I love arena. It takes skill to shoot a cannon from way out and hit first shot.

@klemelement said in More Toxic Double Gunning:

@targasbr

Rare said they won't have anything in-game that provides a player advantage wether you're a veteran or just starting.

DG is breaking that, most new players have no clue how to DG, anyone who knows how has a player advantage.

Many players also don't know how to move candles properly, how to "drift", how to do the sword dash, but no one asks to change these mechanics. All these mechanics I mentioned have one thing in common with DG: training. What differs the novice from the oldest player in all these cases is only the experience.

The problem with DG is not DG itself, but the advantage it has when done in macros.

But the post doesn't say that. The post says that those who use DG are toxic, which is clearly wrong. The definition of toxic is very clear in SoT.

@mferr11

And because all of this i suggested it need to be toned down by having proper balance and mechanics that prevent the boarding and gun meta.
It's sad there is so less Ship combat and to sink someone you have to board.
I'm not sure about it, but maybe is raising the ladders a good thing.
Boarding needs you to shot on someones deck or needs a proper enter maneuver. Ship combat, maneuvering and cannon handling becomes more important etc.
The Devs haven't done such things and combat became more and more shooter combat at least reagarding PvP.
I feel that's bad and the wrong route, i'm here to be more pirate, to sail, to have ship fights and to have good cutlass fights and not to play an fps shooter when it comes to PVP.