Time-Limited/Exclusive Content is destroying my love for Sea of Thieves. Here are my thoughts.

  • I started playing Sea of Thieves about 4 months ago. I put off playing it for a long time because I had other games that I play with friends, and I play on PC. However, I have a friend who got me into the game because he wanted to play something with me; he plays on Xbox One. So, I purchased Xbox Live Game Pass for PC and gave it a try.

    I instantly fell in love.

    In it's current form, Sea of Thieves is an incredibly well-developed video game, even if it lacked content and got mixed reviews upon release. When I first played I could not put it down for hours and every little thing that I found I could do was another amazing discovery. I began to tear the game and apart and get a huge head-start on my grind to becoming a Pirate Legend. I was having a blast shooting cannons at enemy players, lighting kegs, doing forts, playing Shanty's with friends, and developed a bad habit of hoarding treasure.

    The more and more I cashed in loot, the more and more I wanted to buy everything in sight and see everything the game has to offer.

    My disdain for the game started when I discovered Ancient Coins as a purchasable in-game currency. This trope, or trend, or whatever you would call it, automatically makes me lose interest and generally put down games that contain it, immediately. It is not something that should be present in video games. In Sea of Thieves' case, it was handled quite maliciously; pets, which are one of the coolest features of the game, are unattainable unless you spend real life money to get a percentage of coins that may be enough to buy what you want, but will always leave you with a leftover sum of useless funds that you can do nothing with.

    Eventually, I got over the Pirate Emporium and accepted it for what it is; it started to make me dislike the game a tad, but it still wasn't enough for me to put it down altogether.

    Then I discovered all the Time-Limited and Exclusive content, and my disdain grew... exponentially.

    No matter where I looked online, all the cool stuff that any devoted player would want seemed to be trapped behind timed events that had already passed, or trapped behind codes to redeem that are now either non-existent or only purchasable on scalping websites for alarming prices.

    Certain things I can understand, or rather, tolerate. The Golden Banana sails being one of them. I won't complain because that content came with a monetary reward and was held a week after release. One of two small events I can put up with.

    Most other content, which is some of the coolest looking content in the game, is just unfair. Here are some Time-Limited examples of content that is no longer attainable.

    (Granted, this one came back for the Festival of Giving... but at what cost? To make players jealous that they can't get the rest of the ship set? What if I didn't log in to the game at the time?)
    (This one is an exception; but I mention it here for a reason. I bought this just so I could make up for all the other stuff listed above, so I could finally have something unique in my game. I DON'T EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH.)
    (This one is absolutely ludicrous and makes me want to uninstall the game every time I look it up or someone mentions it. There are numerous parts of this set that are all hidden behind certain things. It's requirement was: "Tuning in on July 23rd, 2019 to either the Twitch Rivals channel, or the Official Sea of Thieves Twitch channel for a minimum of one Arena match while logged in with a Twitch account linked to your Sea of Thieves game account." What if I didn't use Twitch or watch streams? So I can't have it if I don't watch your channel? But you want me to pay money for other things in game as well? When do these crazy content prerequisites end?)

    I won't mention any more hulls, because there are a lot and it would take to much time and I am typing this in haste before I have real-life things to attend to. But there are much more notable pieces of content that fall into this same category.

    Above is link to a page on eBay where someone is scalping the Founder's Pack Content for almost $1000. This is a prime example of the consequences behind exclusive content, and developers need to take action against this kind of thing, as it does nothing but serve as a jealous reminder of something that player can never get. Now, if I want it, I have to buy it from some random on eBay who knows they can flip it for a profit? That is hands-down horrible content design. Anyone with half a brain does not feed that system of pre-order incentives and bonuses. It is destroyed the video gaming industry as a whole and it is a trope that needs to stop immediately. I post comments on the Facebook page about this, and I will not stop. Example: Day One Eye-patch. Pre-order a half finished game? No thanks. Okay then, well, you're going to miss out on some cool cosmetic stuff that has no effect on the actual game-play that has yet to be developed anyway! (It makes my head spin. Rare is so much better than this.)

    (This one I had to discover on a whim. It wasn't even advertised as far as I could tell, on the Sea of Thieves website or anywhere else. I had to have a friend message me and tell me to login on ONE SPECIFIC DAY or I would miss it forever!?)

    There are even sails you can only get if you purchase Sea of Thieves Roleplaying game, which is another $60 - $100 depending on where you get it. Insane. Depressing and disappointing.

    Let's not forget the Sea Dog Set. Another pre-order incentive. Only, it gets worse. Want to find the Blunderbuss? Go spend around $200 on a hard drive for one piece of content.

    And as a final example, there is even content stuck inside a custom controller, which is incredibly hard to find now, that is an upwards of another couple hundred dollars. It is the only way to get the Ferryman Clothing Set.

    I do not even want to calculate the amount of money I would have to spend to complete my content collection on Sea of Thieves. I did not ask to be a video game completionist, but it is who am I am. If any developers are reading this, I want you to know that I will not ever stop complaining about this, not because I want to troll, but because I love this game. It's content deserved far, far better and I consider uninstalling every time I have to see these things.

    Consider bringing back these items in some form (of course, the Banana Sails are the exception) or I will continue my campaign against the content myself. I do this, again, not to be a troll, or to spam, or what have you, but rather, out of love. I cannot be the only person who thinks this way, as I have seen other threads and posts about it.

    Thank you for you time here, and I encourage responses if this gets posted.

    • Sincerely,

    a pirate who fell in love with the Sea of Thieves.

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  • This has been discussed countless times not only here, but in many Sea of ​​Thieves communities. A lot of people are against it (I'm one of them, because I like exclusivity) and a lot of people are in favor (because they don't care about such exclusivity, or other arguments I don't remember now). Rare found a simpler solution that avoided much discussion: bring this items into Bilge Rats, with some modifications.

    You may not get such items as they are now, but you are sure to have a chance to have them, even slightly differently than they once were.

  • It's not a big deal. I am missing stuff, doesn't hurt my enjoyment at all.

  • I disagree with some of the in-game event content coming back because they are tide to world-altering events that took place in the Sea of Thieves which has a progressing timeline.

    Some of the Bilge Rat stuff and lesser events can return along with the rewards, I am not concerned about those.

    As for the cosmetics that come along with items such as the HDD and Controller, I feel those should be added to the Emporium in the same price range as the item they came with. If someone wants it bad enough, they can get it and the money goes directly to Rare rather than some random person on eBay. I would love me the Vanguard set, and have even offered obscene amounts on eBay only to be outbid and another relisted for even more. I would rather that obscene amount go to Rare.

  • Quite frankly, your love of the game is rather shallow if its the Cosmetics that destroy it for you. Literally the things in the game that play no role in game-play whatsoever.

  • This wouldn't be a problem if they, you know, actually added the proper amount of cosmetics for a cosmetics based game.

  • @kingslayer-kurt salty much? there will be future time limited cosmetics, just collect them.

  • It's to be expected that people that missed out on some time limited or exclusive cosmetics may feel some envy when they see someone else wearing them. That's part of their story, having those exclusive cosmetics. They were there at the time or bought the item and you didn't.

    It's not right to try to devalue their achievements and campaign against another core game concept because someone needs to see a complete collection of cosmetics even though they are late to the show and clearly have no right to them.

    The dev's have always said the cosmetics that were tied to events and time limited may return in an altered form but never in the originals. Why is that not good enough? Black market archive exists now. You shouldn't miss anything going forward. That's your story and your cosmetics can tell it too.

    @Kingslayer-Kurt just a tip to help you keep your enjoyment of the game alive. Don't tie so much personal value to the cosmetics or loot and realize you're getting depressed over something out of your control. Enjoy making your story going forward and keep your eye on the Black Market for the return of those cosmetics with altered colors. They are coming.

  • The Time limited cosmetics were Awarded to the Players who fell in love with this game from the start & stuck with it because they could always see it's Potential. Making them available to everyone would make all that Meaningless.

  • @Kingslayer-Kurt

    Acceptance is the first step to moving forward.
    But I find your blend of envy, passion, and salt most delicious.

    I found the Obsidian Fishing Pole in my inventory and don't even know how it got there, lolz.

    Wish you were here from the start, but as your typing this in haste and have real life things to attend to, thanks for posting.

  • @targasbr What are these "modifications" you speak of? Can you give me an example of that?

  • @jamzsam You're missing the point - I fell in love with the game just as much as everyone else, if not more so. But just because I didn't discover the game the moment it was released, that means I am barred from getting this content? It makes no sense. I apologize that real life stood in the way of playing video games.

  • @gutterangel Nobody is "devaluing" anything. I have no right to content I paid a full industry price for? That doesn't make sense. Nobody was "late to the show." Other obligations came first. My issue is that most of these cosmetics are extremely more enticing than most anything in the base store you can find at an Outpost. I've bought almost nothing from those stores; instead, focusing on the time limited content. Which in itself is a problem I have yet to go into.

  • @barnabas-seadog You try to sound philosophical and understanding but you come off very negative and slightly annoying. This thread is meant to be taken seriously and people like you do nothing to give actual, important input. Think next time before you post. I'm sure trolls aren't welcome here. Lolz.

  • @Kingslayer-Kurt

    Your love is pretty twisted, pirate.

  • @barnabas-seadog Hey man, try and actually post something useful? Maybe?

  • @Kingslayer-Kurt

    Dude, I get a lot of upvotes in threads like this.

    Know what I'm saying?
    Acceptance.

    Now are you going to tell me how this Obsidian Fishing Pole ended up in my inventory, or not?

  • @barnabas-seadog
    Nobody cares about your up-votes on this forum. Newsflash for you. Except maybe you. Your comments are irrelevant, and as such, you will not be replied to any more by me in this thread. This is for serious discussion of an issue I think is important.

  • @kingslayer-kurt

    Rare counts the upvotes.
    They even told me so.

    Newsflash for rogues.

  • @barnabas-seadog I don't know why you got the Obsidian Fishing Pole. Maybe it was in everyone's inventory or not.

    And. Again. Who cares. "RaRe MaKeS mE FeEl SPeshUL cUz I gEt UpVotez" hurr durr. Please take your trolling somewhere else. I bet you flip out when your Reddit threads get upvoted, too.

  • @kingslayer-kurt

    It was given to everyone who logged on during one of the days of the Festival of Giving, I believe around the 5th.

  • @kingslayer-kurt

    I dont involve myself with social media. It's unhealthy, and evil.

    Just the SoT forums.

    @UltmateRagnarok
    Thanks pirate.
    /raise tankard

  • @Leyenda-Pirata what makes too much sense? Can you elaborate on your deleted comment?

  • @barnabas-seadog said in Time-Limited/Exclusive Content is destroying my love for Sea of Thieves. Here are my thoughts.:

    @kingslayer-kurt

    I dont involve myself with social media.
    It's unhealthy, and evil.

    @UltmateRagnarok
    Thanks pirate.
    /raise tankard

    Yet... you're on a public social forum... do you even hear yourself?

  • @kingslayer-kurt sagte in Time-Limited/Exclusive Content is destroying my love for Sea of Thieves. Here are my thoughts.:

    @targasbr What are these "modifications" you speak of? Can you give me an example of that?

    The Bonecrusher Set was released again in greenish.
    The hat in green fits the gold hoarder Jacket very well, and because the original Bonecrusher Jacket isnt my thing, because front close and me a big belly pirate i like they have re released the Bonecrusher set 2nd time in green, so i can sometimes wear the hat and such in combination with the gold hoarder Jacket.

    Get over it, really.

    I have most of the stuff you posted above, except golden Banana and the Ferryman set.
    I very much like the Piratelord Jacket today and it's available to everyone, also like my Lord Guardian Sails what are also available to everyone.
    The only exclusive i wear what means a little to me is my day one patch.
    I even changed my Brave Vanguard (Founder) title for Hunter of the Shrouded Ghost 😁
    Not exclusive and available to everyone if you are lucky.
    I believe it's the aproach and positiv thinking that let me to the right place at the right time.

    Change to positive thinking and all about life and the game is more fun and feels better, believe me, this is not tied to exclusive pixels, it's your aproach that make you a happy pirate, no cosmetics can ever change that, no matter if you have them or not!

    Good winds to you
    ~ Bill

    P.s. Many new stuff outmatches the old stuff imho. Not all but some really do. You just dont equip it anymore because of all the new fancy cosmetics.

  • Get over it every game has time limited events.

  • @nabberwar You can say whatever you want but you don't know how deep my love for the game goes. Why else would I be here on the forum bringing this to light?

    Why are people so quick to put labels on everyone else? Shallow? Ha. Please, do yourself a favor and leave the thread. You obviously came here just to mess another person who feels cheated out of content that they rightfully be able to get... seems like that is a recurring theme here. Which is yet another reason why these cosmetics are a problem.

  • @kingslayer-kurt said in Time-Limited/Exclusive Content is destroying my love for Sea of Thieves. Here are my thoughts.:

    @barnabas-seadog said in Time-Limited/Exclusive Content is destroying my love for Sea of Thieves. Here are my thoughts.:

    @kingslayer-kurt

    I dont involve myself with social media.
    It's unhealthy, and evil.

    @UltmateRagnarok
    Thanks pirate.
    /raise tankard

    Yet... you're on a public social forum... do you even hear yourself?

    This is the only public social forum I care to interact with simply because I play this game.
    Rare has made it known that they monitor the upvotes in threads.

    This is where I point out that your thread is not generating many upvotes in your favor.

    Acceptance is the first step.

  • @ajm123 No, they don't. This is a trope that start very recently when online games became more prevalent in this last decade. I will do more research and present a case later so I don't sound like I'm blowing smoke, but a good article that presents similar points like my thread can be read here.

    https://the-geek-spot.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-problem-with-limited-time-events-in.html

    It's about money. It's about bringing people back, which, in itself, isn't a bad thing; but the way it's executed here is just awful. I'm not going to pay my hard-earned money on a game that will bar me from content just because I didn't play every single day and grind as much as they wanted me to. I'm not going to buy a super-expensive hard drive so I can get a black Blunderbuss skin and appease my inner goth, which is one of the reasons I want these kinds of things. They happen to match the theme of my inner pirate.

    That is NOT what gaming is about. Gaming is about relaxing and getting away from the pressures of real life and winding down. With some healthy competition, of course; there should be a mode where I can indulge my try-hard tendencies too. BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF CONTENT. That is insidious and obviously rooted in the desire for more money.

    I should be able to pick up this game years from now and still be able to unlock everything that everyone else should. That was a unspoken industry standard for a long time; or at least, it felt like it was. I don't know when it all started; again, I'd have to do more research. Either way, it's a blight on video games across all platforms.

    Here are some more articles that help elaborate my point.

  • @kingslayer-kurt Sorry, comment was posted against my better judgment so I deleted it. However, you keep confessing your own love for the game but fail to recognize that others have/had just as much love which is why they spent their time on time-limited events. You asking for those cosmetics to be reintroduced ignores and negates all of that which seems unfair, no?

  • @ajm123 Good to see a Founder telling me to "get over it." I bet you have been an absolutely wonderful contribution to the Sea of Thieves community. If I ever run into you doing a Fort I'm going to steal your Stronghold Key and let it sink to the bottom of the ocean.

  • @leyenda-pirata It does not ignore the trials and tribulations they faced. I don't mind that they are temporary. It's just that they are PERMANENTLY temporary. Or, now, as the Black Market reserve shows us, altered. What sense does that make? None.

    Cartridges for the Nintendo 64 had all the content on them from the moment they got released. Who ever heard of Banjo-Kazooie having exclusive content if you pre-ordered it? That kind of stuff NEVER happened for many of Rare's titles, and if it did, it was DLC, and it was done the right way. Granted I have not played every Rare title so I don't know the specifics of every game.

    The line that defines the way DLC should be delivered is still a controversial subject. An odd comparison, but remember buying map packs for Halo games? That was the right way to do it. I remember going into GameStop and dancing with glee when I bought the standalone Map Pack for Halo 2, which was the correct way to go about these things, although I might be straying from my original point.

    I am not saying that those individuals do not deserve what they got. Especially in the case of the Banana Sails. That was the perfect and acceptable way to do it. The other ones are just ludicrous. Nothing is being ignored.

  • @kingslayer-kurt Your first statement makes a lot of sense, to be honest.
    As for your references to the past, times change.

  • @mr-dragon-raaar
    Purchasing the game, and increasing revenue, my friend.
    Taking a plethora of in-game screenshots concerning bugs and issues that I plan on uploading later to the forum to help development, although I'm not sure if that would be the right way to do that.
    Downloading Insider and giving that a try.
    Coming to the forum and posting this because I have numerous discussions with other pirates about it.

    I have a friend who was a player since the Alpha and when his account got hacked, Rare and Microsoft told him he could not get his content back. He lost everything and has no chance of getting it back. Granted I don't know specific details as to why it happened and it probably happened because of situations he put himself into. Even so, the problem is still there.

    "Whining." "Entitled." Ha. More labels, from people who probably have the stuff all these other players that just jumped in are pining for!

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