I've got SoT on PC and Xbox. I play on controller on both. Today I've launched it on my PC and every crew I met was using push to talk and were bunny hoping like crazy with incredible sniper aim. Pretty sure they were all on PC. Does the matchaking prioritize xbox with xbox and pc with pc or it doesn't matter?I love you K&M users on PC but I'd like to avoid you as much as possible as you've got massive advantage and it makes the game very frustrating (faster loading times too which is a game changer). Can a dev confirm how it works?
Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?
If you are playing on Xbox, at the menu screen, press the Y button to access settings, scroll down to matchmaking options and select prefers Xbox with controller options and select yes.
Sadly!! This will only work in Arena so far, because Xbox users in adventure mode are required to be fodder for PC streamers to continue to play and promote the game for content. That is the current reality of the crossplay situation this game forces on you. It is not evenly balanced, for whatever reasons they have never been able to fix.
It's something you will just have to accept and suck up playing this game.
Welcome to the pirate lemming guild!@needsmokes Hold up, you're saying that if I stream my SoT sessions on PC, beating Xbox players becomes easier? The more you know...
Well, that's just sad. The first session I've played was in 2016 (first beta wave)...now we're almost in 2020 and still no cross-play opt-out. I wish it would be only about M&K but there's also a huge jump in fps and most importantly loading times. On PC I load literally 4 times as fast which gives me an insane advantage when spawning after death. The lower PC player base was an unofficial excuse for the lack of cross-play opt-out, but I don't believe that PC doesn't have enough players to fill up a couple of servers... I mean..come on!
I think your theory is 100% spot on.@kapitan-klaps developer promised this selection would be in game before anniversary, they stated that it was "more complicated" than they anticipated. We won't ever see Xbox only because pc players like easier
targets.@action-yojimbo
The problem they are probably facing is what happens if player changes input device during the play session. If they can't solve it they suck as developers (I actually Arare team is amazing and this whole "it's complicated'' excuse is a PR talk). It's not hard in UE to do it at all.
Solution:- create 2 matchmaking groups, GENERAL and XBOX ONLY (controller)
- GENERAL group contains ALL PC players that use controller and m&k (this is because PC has way more advantages than aiming, so crossplay groups must be identified by platform, not input device) and XBOX players who don't opt-out of crossplay or XBOX players who use M&K
- XBOX ONLY group contains XBOX players who use the controller only and didn't opt out of crossplay (again, XBOX players who use M&K automatically get added to the GENERAL group with PC players)
- At the title screen, as soon as player press ENTER or A on a controller, lock the input device (that's what Paladins does). If a player is using a controller, and suddenly tries to aim with a mouse, display a popup saying you're required to go back to title screen to change the input device (that's what Paladins does, it works)
As far as input device rules go, it's crazy easy to do in UE even with just blueprints. I'm sure there are other matters that need to be solved on other ends, but it can't be that hard.
The amount of people that think PC players want Xbox in bcoz its a easy kill is embarrassing.
Pc players maybe just know that the player base needs both platforms to survive. IF the game had larger player pools I’d say let them opt out but it does not.
Also saying rate are not updating and adding crossplay bcoz of streamers getting easy kills it just plain lies hahaha. Come on now.To be fair, he didn't say anything about PC not having an advantage. He was just commenting on some console players' attitudes toward the general PC base.
And he's not wrong. Regardless of your stance on the issue; demonizing the other side helps no one and only creates ill will within the playerbase.
@action-yojimbo said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@aglasgowthing I appreciate your comments. however that is not my experience. PC has huge advantages and all you need to do is watch streamers and listen to them mock Xbox players. I hope we get this option I mean if PubG can do it why can't Rare
Lol using pubg for a game example. Pubg on console is a disgrace and it ain’t much better on pc.
U think a guy who isn’t streaming then is laughing at Xbox players come on haha, it’s just a joke.
@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
The amount of people that think PC players want Xbox in bcoz its a easy kill is embarrassing.
Pc players maybe just know that the player base needs both platforms to survive. IF the game had larger player pools I’d say let them opt out but it does not.
Also saying rate are not updating and adding crossplay bcoz of streamers getting easy kills it just plain lies hahaha. Come on now.Sorry mate but I have to disagree. I doubt there are not enough PC players to fill up at least one or two servers. On top of that, there's no ping limit so Sea of Thieves matchmakes NA players with EU players which makes the pool is even larger. In many sessions, I don't even encounter any player ships and that's fine. This is not Call of Duty where you need to meet a new group of people every 5 minutes with 40 ping. Crossplay has nothing with this game's survivability. The reason for the lack of crossplay opt-out is one of the 3:
- An idiotic design decision
- early game development fkc up that is hard to get around now and devs don't have time or skill to fix it
- low priority on task list, they rather add item shop junk
Disagree all you like if Rare releases numbers you would see.
Fillin one or two servers on a platform for this game is not what they are looking for and even if so you want people on eu to play with na on 170 ping? No thanks.
I know it’s not cod.If anything the should remove the game from Xbox and focus on pc then where they do not have to limit the game development on limited hardware?
From constantly looking at recent players this last month, I think its safe to assume there is currently a 50/50 split at least or more PC players on the seas than Xbox users..
@aglasgowthing HAHAHA
It's funny you bring that up. NOT once have any of the PC players been asking to remove the Xbox players to allow proper development.
Gather round children let me tell you a story about how Rare limited the draw distance and LOD all for the sake of a level playing field for the Xbox crowd.
It's funny how;
a) None of them even know that happened,
and
b) None of the PC crowd try to rub it in their face.To be fair the more this goes on, the more I agree with your sentiment.
@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
Disagree all you like if Rare releases numbers you would see.
Fillin one or two servers on a platform for this game is not what they are looking for and even if so you want people on eu to play with na on 170 ping? No thanks.
I know it’s not cod.If anything the should remove the game from Xbox and focus on pc then where they do not have to limit the game development on limited hardware?
So there are no more than 48 PC players in the entire world that play this game? Wow. Last 2 nights I only killed 2 xbox players out of the 20 ships we sunk. Rest were PC. So by that logic PC is the majority now! LOL
@badassfro yes I want the game to be cross play.
Feel like Xbox players just don’t like PC players kinda weird but each to there own.
Just kinda pointing out that a pure pc game would BE better than a pure Xbox game.
@inboundbomb I don’t know how many PC players there is I dont claim to know. It’s ALOT smaller than Xbox numbers for sure.
I’m simply putting that the Two platforms for THIS game is better than one.@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@inboundbomb I don’t know how many PC players there is I dont claim to know. It’s ALOT smaller than Xbox numbers for sure.
I’m simply putting that the Two platforms for THIS game is better than one.You don't know this and I don't know this to be certain that THIS is the only way due to lack of competent information. What if RARE had implemented the optional opt out in the very beginning and Microsoft allowed the game to be sold on Steam? would that have improved sales and the health of this game? No one knows anything except those that do know, so can we please stop making assumptions.
@needsmokes How did you come to that conclusion? Just from your own play sessions? There are no official player numbers available.
@inboundbomb said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@inboundbomb I don’t know how many PC players there is I dont claim to know. It’s ALOT smaller than Xbox numbers for sure.
I’m simply putting that the Two platforms for THIS game is better than one.You don't know this and I don't know this to be certain that THIS is the only way due to lack of competent information. What if RARE had implemented the optional opt out in the very beginning and Microsoft allowed the game to be sold on Steam? would that have improved sales and the health of this game? No one knows anything except those that do know, so can we please stop making assumptions.
Who knows but I’d support it on steam for sure. :) the store on pc win10 is a pain with a Xbox app lol
@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@inboundbomb said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@inboundbomb I don’t know how many PC players there is I dont claim to know. It’s ALOT smaller than Xbox numbers for sure.
I’m simply putting that the Two platforms for THIS game is better than one.You don't know this and I don't know this to be certain that THIS is the only way due to lack of competent information. What if RARE had implemented the optional opt out in the very beginning and Microsoft allowed the game to be sold on Steam? would that have improved sales and the health of this game? No one knows anything except those that do know, so can we please stop making assumptions.
Who knows but I’d support it on steam for sure. :) the store on pc win10 is a pain with a Xbox app lol
It is that to be sure.
@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
Disagree all you like if Rare releases numbers you would see.
Fillin one or two servers on a platform for this game is not what they are looking for and even if so you want people on eu to play with na on 170 ping? No thanks.
I know it’s not cod.If anything the should remove the game from Xbox and focus on pc then where they do not have to limit the game development on limited hardware?
- EU players already get matched with NA players. This was a thing since beta.
- The rest of the comment is the most ignorant thing I' ve read over here. Remove the game from Xbox and focus on PC? What a joke. It also baffles me that you believe PC platform is more popular one when it comes Xbox games and MS store (SoT is not on steam and that's a big thing)
Yes, that is only from mine and two friends personal experience this past month. Each server is random of course. But I personally have been coming across perhaps more on PC than Xbox. Might totally vary for others.
@needsmokes said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
Yes, that is only from mine and two friends personal experience this past month. Each server is random of course. But I personally have been coming across perhaps more on PC than Xbox. Might totally vary for others.
Last 2 nights I've only found 2 xbox players out of the 20 ships we attacked or had attacked us that we sunk. I will keep more tabs again tonight as well.
@kapitan-klaps said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
@aglasgowthing said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
Disagree all you like if Rare releases numbers you would see.
Fillin one or two servers on a platform for this game is not what they are looking for and even if so you want people on eu to play with na on 170 ping? No thanks.
I know it’s not cod.If anything the should remove the game from Xbox and focus on pc then where they do not have to limit the game development on limited hardware?
- EU players already get matched with NA players. This was a thing since beta.
- The rest of the comment is the most ignorant thing I' ve read over here. Remove the game from Xbox and focus on PC? What a joke. It also baffles me that you believe PC platform is more popular one when it comes Xbox games and MS store (SoT is not on steam and that's a big thing)
How can it baffle you if I’ve never actually said that PC has more players. :/ I’ve always said Xbox has more but having 2 platforms instead of one is probably in the best interest of this game IMO.
I was pointing out that they put a lot of effort to make this game playable for both but if they wanted a better all round game PC would be the way to do it.@knifelife said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
The poor horse has been obliterated into atoms at this point 😂
The horse has been ground to powder and we're now snorting it through counterfeit two dollar bills.
@knifelife said in Does the matchmaking prioritize same platform first (xbox with xbox, pc with pc) or it's totally random?:
I wish Rare would just end this topic one way or the other now.. it’s been years lol.
They need to tell people if it’s still happening or not so this can be put to rest. The poor horse has been obliterated into atoms at this point 😂
I keep imagining the horse gets reincarnated after death to a newer, younger horse to continue it's beatings for being bad in the first place.
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