Arena penalty for Leaving/AFK'ing?

@viperishemu2992 said in Arena penalty for Leaving/AFK'ing?:

AFKers and "quitters" are pretty detrimental to Arena. That and the long wait times are why I never play it anymore.

Rare need to do something to fix the dumpster fire that Arena is.

Yeah, I stopped playing the game so I missed arena on its heyday... Getting those 240 arena wins with 2-man crews and 30 minute waits won't be possible...

Might just quit the game again if this arena wait rubbish is not fixed really...

@viperishemu2992 said in Arena penalty for Leaving/AFK'ing?:

@motu-81 I agree. Arena is just not that fun. Or to put it another way, there are better team vs team fighting games on the market. Add in the waiting times and the huge procent of AFK/Quitters unbalancing the competition and it's just not worth the grief.

I suppose if somebody was a hard core "Completionist" and had lots of free time Arena could be worth the investment? But that is not my case.

Same man, I’ve actually got a life, so 30-45m waiting times to be left alone on a galleon after 5 minutes is not something I can afford, or enjoy.

Sloop arena? That’s just not epic enough, after the full broadside battles on galleons, sloop arena feels like a bunch of headless chickens chasing each other hitting maybe 2 out 10 cannonballs and bailing forever without anyone sinking LOL.

Like you say, there’s better pvp games out there that make arena (in its current state) not worth playing.

@viperishemu2992 said in Arena penalty for Leaving/AFK'ing?:

@motu-81 Yeah it's a real shame that Arena isn't better because ship vs ship battles could actually be epic and something different that would set it apart from other games out there.

There's a lot wrong with Arena and still a few serious problems with the Ship mechanics in general. But what a potential SoT has... such a shame it is being wasted. :(

Agree man, I love the game and love pvp but arena is so F'd right now

I mean this is my team after 5 minutes in 2/3rds or every arena game:

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These are the other teams 😭

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The arena really was a big flop waiting to happen. It's a shame considering how much work Rare put into it.

I think the main problem is dangling the "carrot on the stick".
There's a lot of 'completionist' type players out there who play games for the commendations, achievements, numbers, grind.
When the game play itself takes a back seat to just grinding stats, players find ways to 'game' the system.
Going AFK is the laziest way to 'earn' these stats.

Why do players go AFK?

1. don't have time to play but want the rewards for progression
2. don't enjoy to play but want the rewards for progression
3. busy IRL but want the rewards for progression
4. forgot to sign out while waiting in the ridiculously long lobby

Why don't players leave?

1. forgot to leave
2. won't 'earn' anything if they do.

How to encourage playing rather than AFKing?
1. increase or implement rewards for individual actions for actually playing
a. shooting/hitting enemies
b. digging/turning in treasure
c. performing actions on the ship
This code might already be in game (via kick timers) but would need to be more sophisticated (holding one action for too long should equate to AFK or performing one or two actions repeatedly for too long should equate to AFK) to best recognize meaningless, repetitive actions.

2. reduce or remove rewards for crew performance
a. if there were very few or even no rewards for crew performance, there would be no benefit to going AFK. Completionists who go AFK exist because they rely on the stats they can earn off of the rest of the crew. Take that away and AFKers should disappear.

@motu-81 I was always under the impression if this happened you had a short timer before you could que again. I guess I was wrong or misinformed with this? I am more than positive I have seen a screenshot of said timer. Was this in before but removed? Just curious?

@bigtorvol said in Arena penalty for Leaving/AFK'ing?:

@motu-81 I was always under the impression if this happened you had a short timer before you could que again. I guess I was wrong or misinformed with this? I am more than positive I have seen a screenshot of said timer. Was this in before but removed? Just curious?

Not that I've seen, heard?

Every other competitive game where you rely on a team has this, why is SoT allowing AFKs/Leavers to ruin arena, this whole arena weekend event was ruined by this and by the 30 minute queues for galleon.

Not really worth playing while things are like this.