Everything is way too expensive.

@shaggy2000 I play in solo mode because I don't wan to play with strangers. I'm not complaining that it's hard, I'm complaining that the progression system is too much of a grind for cosmetics. It's a GAAS game, it's going to be going for ages, just let me paint my boat to make it a little bit more fun.

@musicmee said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 Ahoy matey!

Sorry to jump on your exquisitely, long, but well-written post with my quick post... but, this next week we should be seeing a drop in prices at the outpost shops so if you have your eyes on anything, in particular, you may want to save your gold for now and buy them during the upcoming event.

That's great news, will save the coin then, Cheers!!

@musicmee said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 Ahoy matey!

Sorry to jump on your exquisitely, long, but well-written post with my quick post... but, this next week we should be seeing a drop in prices at the outpost shops so if you have your eyes on anything, in particular, you may want to save your gold for now and buy them during the upcoming event.

Riddles only pay out castaways and seafarers chests. X marks the spot in one voyage I once got the groggs chest 2 captain and 3 seafarers chests and took me less than 20 minutes. The best thing to do is dice roll only hit the small islands ignore the large ones and only hit the medium islands if they have 3 or more chests and ignore all riddles I average about 3k gold per half hour doing this.

@evil-wolf-snipe said in Everything is way too expensive.:

Riddles only pay out castaways and seafarers chests. X marks the spot in one voyage I once got the groggs chest 2 captain and 3 seafarers chests and took me less than 20 minutes. The best thing to do is dice roll only hit the small islands ignore the large ones and only hit the medium islands if they have 3 or more chests and ignore all riddles I average about 3k gold per half hour doing this.

They need to change that then. Riddle quests are much more fun, the harder the quest the bigger the payout should be.

@sirliborius said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 sagte in Everything is way too expensive.:

"you need to put the time in" " you need to git good" "blah blah blah". As discussed, unless you are unemployed, a student, single, a child, you don't have that sort of time, especially if you are a solo player. How much spare time you have should not be currency, ever.

I have to disagree at this point. The only way to make currency without spending your spare time would be Pay2Win, which most of us don't want to see.
As the progression in SoT is based only on cosmetic stuff, it doesn't make sense to give away everything for low prices and don't leave stuff to work for.
There are a few quite cheap versions of some items (sails for example), but most stuff should be something you have to work for, really earning it.

Needs to be a happy medium, Dude. I don't want micro-transactions, but I also want some feeling of there actually being a point to playing the game.

@midnightbarber3 G'day mate.
I'm sure that most of us thought the same about those ridiculous prices when we started too. I know I was thinking they're crazy.
But as you get on in the game there is very little you can purchase anyway, so the money isn't everything... well not to everybody.
I have close to two million in gold and 350 doubloons with nothing bookmarked to purchase. I have bought a set of sails that I purchased & used once whilst with a random crew and I have at least one of each item upgrade and two of each weapon.
But as they are only cosmetics they make no difference to how I play the game.
As for clothing, well I don't see my clothes anyway so I don't care what others see me in. lol
Having said that I did pre-order the game, therefore I got the black dog outfit and have worn it ever since the code finally arrived. Since then I have bought a new hat. lol

I know that prices are excessively high but to some it gives reason to continue battling through voyages. If everything was cheap there would be even less reason to play on.

As for playing with strangers. Although it sounds dirty, it's not that hard to find a decent person who shares your mindset. I found a regular crew mate on these forums and a lot more who I have sailed with on numerous occasions.

Crew mates bring extra fun to the game.
Please do yourself a favour and reconsider joining someone for a few duo runs until you have built an understanding of the friendship and trust.
Read posts here and decide whether you at least share some views with someone here and drop them a line either via forum PM or Xbox app message.

Many use the forum to meet others by starting a thread on the topic. Use it like a dating site.
Mention where you are globally and which time zones you most frequently play SoT.
Tell of your rep and which factions your prefer or need to catch up on.
Buy a headset, even a cheap one is better than nothing.

The sooner you share the burdens of quests the sooner you can afford the most exorbitantly priced cosmetics.
Video games are meant to be fun and fun times are best shared with others or at least one other.

Fair winds and happy sailing. :o)

@hynieth said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 I work 40+ hours per week have 2 children and a Wife. I also have most cosmetics and a million gold on my account to buy the new legends cosmetics for my ship.

You're doing something wrong ^_^

No-one is telling you to play with strangers, just make some friends and play with those. I've got plenty and I'm on a galleon every evening earning enough told to fill my coffers to the brim.
The game is centered around teamplay, it's great to work with others towards a common goal.

Also I've been looking this up but what in the lord Spaghettimonsters name is GAAS?

I don't have the time to be on every evening. I have a missus that wants to spend some time with me, and I work 45 - 60 hours a week and a 3 hour daily commute. I'm really not doing something wrong, as a man in your situation, you are without a doubt the epitome of the exception to the rule.

GAAS = games as a service.

@hynieth I'm not blaming anyone. I'm a paying customer pointing out the folly of the prices. It's in their best interest to make people want to keep playing the game. I played it all weekend and all I could afford was one red sail. That was one 10th of the cost of a patterned sail. Do they think I am going to plough 10 weekends into the game just to buy one sail. Unless there is another point to the game than to actually buy stuff then someone please enlighten me, because I am not seeing it.

I live in London. In my profession you work the hours that need working. Commute does not count as work time here.

@midnightbarber3 said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@hynieth said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 I work 40+ hours per week have 2 children and a Wife. I also have most cosmetics and a million gold on my account to buy the new legends cosmetics for my ship.

You're doing something wrong ^_^

No-one is telling you to play with strangers, just make some friends and play with those. I've got plenty and I'm on a galleon every evening earning enough told to fill my coffers to the brim.
The game is centered around teamplay, it's great to work with others towards a common goal.

Also I've been looking this up but what in the lord Spaghettimonsters name is GAAS?

I don't have the time to be on every evening. I have a missus that wants to spend some time with me, and I work 45 - 60 hours a week and a 3 hour daily commute. I'm really not doing something wrong, as a man in your situation, you are without a doubt the epitome of the exception to the rule.

GAAS = games as a service.

Bro. Move out of the big city. Your life sounds awful.

@mattydove74 said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@hynieth said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 I work 40+ hours per week have 2 children and a Wife. I also have most cosmetics and a million gold on my account to buy the new legends cosmetics for my ship.

You're doing something wrong ^_^

No-one is telling you to play with strangers, just make some friends and play with those. I've got plenty and I'm on a galleon every evening earning enough told to fill my coffers to the brim.
The game is centered around teamplay, it's great to work with others towards a common goal.

Also I've been looking this up but what in the lord Spaghettimonsters name is GAAS?

I don't have the time to be on every evening. I have a missus that wants to spend some time with me, and I work 45 - 60 hours a week and a 3 hour daily commute. I'm really not doing something wrong, as a man in your situation, you are without a doubt the epitome of the exception to the rule.

GAAS = games as a service.

Bro. Move out of the big city. Your life sounds awful.

$$$

If you work in London and you are under 60, then you won't/can't live in London.

@mc-rossco said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 said in Everything is way too expensive.:

OK, so as a working dude Now I play this solo only, I don't have mics and a headset etc,

1. Quests - Yesterday I bought a gold hoarder's quest and as luck would have it it was one where you have to work out the clues. the quest took the best part of 30 minutes to complete.

You're a working dude but you can't afford a headset? That doesn't really add up tbh. Strangers are just friends you haven't met yet, you should really give it a try.

Riddle quests have always been the biggest waste of time, you say yourself it took you half an hour to do one... In half an hour I would be half way through an Athena and have 10k gold to show for it.

If you play with strangers they may have higher level quests that will mean you never dig up a castaway again. If you want to max out your gold per time you can't spend half an hour on one voyage.

I said I don't want to play with strangers. It's not up for debate. The option of solo is there, so it's a valid faction. I'm not the only person that thinks the cosmetics are over priced, the internet, and this page, are full of comments of agreement.

What's an Athena?

@midnightbarber3 said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@mattydove74 said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@hynieth said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 I work 40+ hours per week have 2 children and a Wife. I also have most cosmetics and a million gold on my account to buy the new legends cosmetics for my ship.

You're doing something wrong ^_^

No-one is telling you to play with strangers, just make some friends and play with those. I've got plenty and I'm on a galleon every evening earning enough told to fill my coffers to the brim.
The game is centered around teamplay, it's great to work with others towards a common goal.

Also I've been looking this up but what in the lord Spaghettimonsters name is GAAS?

I don't have the time to be on every evening. I have a missus that wants to spend some time with me, and I work 45 - 60 hours a week and a 3 hour daily commute. I'm really not doing something wrong, as a man in your situation, you are without a doubt the epitome of the exception to the rule.

GAAS = games as a service.

Bro. Move out of the big city. Your life sounds awful.

$$$

If you work in London and you are under 60, then you won't/can't live in London.

F London. That's crazy. I did make an assumption you were US, so good luck in the UK.
Sorry you have to spend up to 16 hours a day working just to get by.

@hynieth said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 The point of the game is to go on grand adventures on the high seas. The point of any game is to have fun.

If you play games just for the in game rewards you might want to rethink the hobby.

I'm having fun on the high seas, why can't I look pretty for a reasonable price, whilst I do so? Is there anything wrong in suggesting that the game be more rewarding for playing it? It's not a new concept. Look what happened to Battlefront 2. If SoT had the ability to buy stuff outright, with these prices being for grinding, this game would be in the same boat - no pun intended.

@midnightbarber3 The entire game is built on cosmetics. Although there is very little in offering, the game release was simply pushed through the door and onto the shelves a year too soon. Thank you Micro$oft.

Rare are adding the much needed cosmetics but whether they arrive soon enough is up to the individual player.
In lieu of content, Rare suggests that the journey is more important than the destination "Make your own adventures".
Yeah it sounds like a cheap way out for them but with friends it isn't all that hard.

I've tried playing solo and I've played with random crews. The game is dull and colourless to me. However when I play with people who were once strangers but now are regulars, we share plenty of laughs.
It's an entirely different game and all for the right reasons.
So much so that I could play on an Australian server with a ping of 80 but usually not at the same time as fellow Australians are playing SoT or I join my American friends and endure a ping of 300+ just because I enjoy the great company rather than playing solo.

Don't get me wrong, I do have some great Aussie SoT mates that I enjoy sailing with but they're hardly on during my gaming time.

@hynieth said in Everything is way too expensive.:

@midnightbarber3 As I said before, you judge this on your own situation.

Me and my mates make enough gold on a 3 hour run to buy one of those "over priced" items and I've already stocked up enough to buy the most expensive items on sale.

If you don't have enough time to play games why should it reward you? Do you want to take away the reward of achieving something really nice for a high price for those who do have the time for this hobby? Remember that there are enough people who complain about there not being really nice exclusive/ expensive items on sale too. And for those who complained about the ship cosmetics there are now the 7k gold sails.

This post is "I'm alright, Jack" personified.

Once more, with feeling - The items are waaaaaaaaaaaay too over-priced for the time you take grinding.

Solo player is built into the game - solo player takes waaaaaaaaaay longer to build up treasure.

Gunpowder skeletons has totally ruined the experience for low level casual solo players I mean really, wipe a player playing solo.The fluidity has been ruined in a quick attempt to help solo players to pirate legend which goes against the premise this game promised. Legend should only be for hardcore team players as the game intended anyway.