PC controls out of control

@betsill said in PC controls out of control:

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@katttruewalker said in PC controls out of control:

I am certain however, that Rare are looking at any reports or instances which might cause significant disparity between platforms. I believe this was mentioned somewhere recently around E3 time?

Wait! What?! As in they don't already know what causes a significant disparity between platforms?! This can't be true... Could you provide a link to someone from Rare saying this if it's true? There's just no way that someone that makes games for a living doesn't understand the disparity between PC and console...

they are not looking at the disparities it causes, they are looking at if these disparities in sea of thieves are significant enough to warrant changes.

if it was a game where quick reflexes meant winning or losing the match, say like Call of Duty or Battlefield... then yes

however, do the advantages of PC over XboX really give such an advantage that a console player can't survive an encounter from a PC player?

in my opinion, if your boat is sunk and got all of your treasure stolen, no ammount of precision would make a difference in your fate. You lost the match long before The PC player used his advantages against you. i can bet you a bottle of rum that you lost for other reasons.

@betsill said in PC controls out of control:

@squalzell "they are not looking at the disparities it causes, they are looking at if these disparities in sea of thieves are significant enough to warrant changes."
The disparities between PC and console players have been common knowledge for as long as I've been gaming. Sea of thieves is no different. There is no need for them to "see if they are significant enough" because they were know before this game started production.

"No amount of precision would make a difference"...
What?! lol if you really think this, then that tells me you're not at all qualified to have a discussion on this topic.

oh?

so where do i submit my qualifications to be able to post on these forums? may i see your qualifications?

also way to cut the quotes to place things out of context

yes PC/Console have differences so you are saying that all games should be split because of that controller advantage

@squalzell wrong there buddy, if you cant get on my ship, you wont be sinking it, end of story. I would like to think that applies to any good crew. When it comes to that cqc, one group has advantages over another, and that can turn the tide easily. Just because someone says its not COD or fortnite, doesnt change the fact that having equipment that allows for higher precision, higher mobility and much faster target aquisition is UNBALANCED.

@pomalotacusmk3 I've sunk plenty of ships without boarding them. actually most of my ship kills are with either cannon balls or ramming

@squalzell they couldnt have been very good, why didnt they just dodge the cannonballs and bail water till it was safe to repair? A good helmsman should be able to disengage combat and provide safe repairing conditions in less than 15 seconds, if the encounter isn't going well.
We also sink players without boarding, its usually a sign that they are low skilled, random crews, on an island, or missing crew members.

@squalzell actually, if you ram them AND dont board them like you said, they must be pretty bad. lol, sinking from a ram. Anyway, this is turning into tactics, not crossplay, so ima try stay on topic.

@pomalotacusmk3 said in PC controls out of control:

@squalzell actually, if you ram them AND dont board them like you said, they must be pretty bad. lol, sinking from a ram. Anyway, this is turning into tactics, not crossplay, so ima try stay on topic.

that was my point!
tactics, being good players, being bad players. It's not all about what controller or K/M you use and Rare are looking into finding out if the advantage K/M has will give such a significant boost that no Console player regardless on how good they are can survive an encounter with a K/M player.

@squalzell yes, but i try not to confuse skills and ability with hardware and equipment. An analogy: two identical twins, both professional long distance runners. Both eat the same. Both train the same. Everything about them is the same. One turns up to a race in shorts and runners, the other turns up in a suit and tie, with black leather shoes. Guess who takes 8 minutes to finish and guess who takes 10 minutes. In fact, even the less healthy, less fit, less professional runners can beat the guy in the business suit, because the EQUIPMEN. This can also be applied to crossplay.2 people with similar skills, similar game time, similar gaming experience, similar reflexes etc etc, can experience very different situations because of their equipment.

@pomalotacusmk3 said in PC controls out of control:

@squalzell yes, but i try not to confuse skills and ability with hardware and equipment. An analogy: two identical twins, both professional long distance runners. Both eat the same. Both train the same. Everything about them is the same. One turns up to a race in shorts and runners, the other turns up in a suit and tie, with black leather shoes. Guess who takes 8 minutes to finish and guess who takes 10 minutes. In fact, even the less healthy, less fit, less professional runners can beat the guy in the business suit, because the EQUIPMEN. This can also be applied to crossplay.2 people with similar skills, similar game time, similar gaming experience, similar reflexes etc etc, can experience very different situations because of their equipment.

ok yes, now put those 2 guys one in a suit and one in running attire and make them write a book, who's going to write the better book? in this case equipment, although one is more comfortable than the other will make littler difference in the quality of the book.

that's what i'm trying to tell people
Running Shoes and shorts will run a better race than the guy in the suit and dress shoes
the same as a M/K will be better at call of duty and battlefield but in a game like sea of thieves, is that like running a race? or is that more like writing a book?

however if you have both of them write a book, the quality of the writing has little to do with what shoes they wear.
This is what Rare is trying to get data and analyse before making a decision
the guy with running shoes and guy with dress shoes are they writing a book or are they running a race?

I'm not saying that there is no advantage, i'm trying to say is if this advantage is applicable in sea of thieves, and to what extent

i read somewhere that only 14-16% of players are PC. So if the advantage is only in a small part of the game and you will meet a PC player only 15% of the time, is it worth the money they will lose (or the increase they would have to spend) by splitting the community?

@a-cranky-eskimo said

@admiral-rrrsole rare and microsoft don’t control what tv people buy though..

Ahoy matey.
Micro$oft don't control what platform we choose to buy and play games on either.

I am not against the cross-play option. I was only addressing the OP and his BS one-sided claims of advantages and disadvantages so I pointed them out.

I would hate to not have met so many great people using consoles and fear of losing touch with them if an option was included but I do agree that the option should be there for those who want it.

It's hard to see Micro$oft letting go of their cross-play, albeit forced or otherwise. It's like a new born baby to them that is promised to win back the PC user market from only buying Steam games.

@squalzell not really the best analogy dude, the clothing and footear are the equipment in a running race, if you're writing books, clothes will not make ANY difference in their creativity and writing style, remember that we are analysing equipment used to perform a task. Amore apt comparison would be: one is using pen and paper while the other is using MS Office. The guy using the pen and paper will take longer to finish, has less editing tools, and takes longer to recover from a 'typo'.
And again,its not COD, but being less accurate/mobile can cost you your life and your boat, and your time. Some would even argue that dying in SoT is MORE painful/punishing than dying in COD, so if its because of input device, thats pretty bad. I guess we'll have to see what Rares data tells them.

@afro-silent said in PC controls out of control:

@betsill having the option is the same thing as disabling all xbox players will have it off by default, thus living the servers dead empty and pointless.

lol. how many players do you think you need to fill a server? Its not 500,000, its not even 100. 'Dead servers' is not really a thing, you would be merged with another part-full server.Or are you suggesting that less than 24 people are currently online on PC?Coz thats another problem entirely.
edit: Is there also a reason why you think all xboxers would disable. What is that reason?

@archangel-timmy Unfortunately, PC software allows things like sensitivity of a mouse to be adjusted outside of game settings, so it wouldn't work 🙁