Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.

  • Your bone f****h is out of control and obscene. Clink, clack. Crunch. There's more skeletons in the ground in your world, than there are grains of sand. I don't understand how there could be so many dead pirates, who is commiting this atrocity? Why isn't the Pirate UN involved? Is there some factory somewhere hidden beneath the waves pumping them out in numbers that Westworld would be jealous of? How is it that a voyage can produce more skeletons than a skull fort, the epicenter of skeleton based difficulty?

    I can't take it anymore. Skeleton based difficulty needs to go the way of the dodo but please cremate it rather than bury it. I can't take another skeleton being made.

    I try to take refuge in a nice relaxing level 50 Gold Hoarders voyage. I mean it's just riddles and X marks right??? I step foot on the beautiful sandy shores ready to puzzle and navigate myself to riches...

    NO Rare says, YOU must fight the skeletons, the SKELETON is the game. SEA OF SKELETONS.

    I jump off my sloop and I apparently step on the skeleton landmine. Six spawn. Kill them, take five steps. Six more spawn. Dig in a spot, five more spawn. Kill them, run for a bit. Five more spawn. Swim back to my boat they're all on shore using them aimbots all the Xbox players complain about.

    They cackle at me, taunt me. But enough is enough. Today's patch is just too much...

    "Being on an Order of Souls voyage no longer causes fewer ambient skeletons to spawn."

    ORDER OF SOULS DIDN'T SPAWN THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF SKELETONS?! HAVE YOU DONE YOUR OWN VOYAGES ABOVE 40? WHY WOULD WE NEED MORE SKELETONS?! EVER?!

    This is without even talking about the skelpocalypse that are Athena's Voyages. I won't go there... I can't go there.

    There must be some challenge beyond throwing tons of skeletons at us at every stop. Please I beg you Rare, anything but more skeletons for every facet of the game. It's overused, it's tired, it's dead. You get over them after level 10. Did anyone ever tell you variety is the exquisite spice of life? That maybe... just maybe there's other options out there for you than enabling whichever dev or devs have an addiction to all things boney?

    Please I'd be happy with you utilizing the other enemy assets in the game! Please next time I jump ashore spawn some sharks on land, make them float above the sands, maybe a few disembodied Kraken tentacles, how about some snakes??? Please Rare. Please. I beg you just put anything else in other than skeletons. Can your servers really handle so many skeletons spawning on every voyage? MAYBE IF YOU SPAWNED LESS YOU COULD UP THE PLAYER COUNT. Think of the benefits, you wouldn't need to think of new ways to spawn skeletons.

    I mean come on... when you come out with a Fishing Trading Company, you're not going to have us fish up skeletons are you???

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  • @eatdamuffin Wait until you are doing legendary voyages. :D

  • @eatdamuffin
    Exactly I made the same complaint a few times myself...
    Why not some living pirates or naval forces???
    What are those things that love to hoard and guard treasure?
    Oh ya dragons!
    That's absurd you say?
    Well... Pirates may never have fought dragons
    But they sure as hell never fought skeletons either...

  • Oh there's more challenge than throwing tons of skeletons as you at every stop. There's tons of skeletons with increased health at every stop! Vertical progression in a game where you don't vertically progress. Thanks (for nothing, in this case) Rare!

  • calm down just kill the dam skelletons

  • Think normal voyages is fine, but for Athena rep they need to tune down the hp of skeletons spawning, Normal skeletons that spawn (luckly only melee and not flintlock super aim skeletons) can take up to 2 full combos with the sword and maybe even a hit or 2 more after that, and personaly I would rather see same amount or more spawn but with way way way less hp on each of them so they die in like 1 combo off the sword.

  • @eatdamuffin That jumped out of the patch notes at me. Surly there are enough skellies per OoS voyage, without more random ones spawning too!

  • @aod-fluid said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    @eatdamuffin Wait until you are doing legendary voyages. :D

    I am a Legend. I already know how bad it is. I don't do much Athena's though cause they're boring and the rewards are uninteresting to me right now, but that's another topic :)

  • You could crew up with low level players to get easier voyages.

  • @rk1-turbulence said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    You could crew up with low level players to get easier voyages.

    It's not about the difficulty, it's about the monotony and lack of variety.

  • Yeah, I think some variety is needed

    Certainly Stealth play would be good - Venus fly traps you have to sneak past maybe or sleeping Skeles.

    Puzzle play - traps and lock picking perhaps?

    Weren't Cannibals mentioned?

  • @eatdamuffin that is the best rant I've seen in here so far. Very well written and entertaining.

    oh and I agree with you, of course....

  • @mmountain said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    Certainly Stealth play would be good - Venus fly traps you have to sneak past maybe or sleeping Skeles.

    Weren't Cannibals mentioned?

    Giant venus fly traps would make an excellent addition. Imagine one growing over the chest!

    And for cannibals... I'm pretty sure Neate said "cannonballs"

  • @harlton-cheston said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    @mmountain said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    Certainly Stealth play would be good - Venus fly traps you have to sneak past maybe or sleeping Skeles.

    Weren't Cannibals mentioned?

    Giant venus fly traps would make an excellent addition. Imagine one growing over the chest!

    And for cannibals... I'm pretty sure Neate said "cannonballs"

    Yeah, I think so looking back through the threads - Giant Terror birds like Moa would be awesome. One massive and dangerous land based foe to take down rather than the swarming skele's we have to deal with. You could have missions to steal it's eggs.

  • This...is... amazing...

  • If Rare can reduce the skeleton's accuracy I'd be happy. You can't peak around a rock without getting shot in the eye by sniper skeletons.

  • I agree with the subject. Sometimes it is like, "Enough already! Let me dig up these chests and get out of here." Too often they aren't any kind of threat and are easily killed. But they just keep coming and since you don't level up and they don't drop anything, sometimes they are just a nuisance and takes enjoyment away from the game.

    The only point to the skeletons I see is to delay you to increase your chances of an encounter with other players who may be sent to the same island. But it seems there could be more creative and interesting ways of doing that.

  • Skeletons have the same animations than the player models. It's just cheaper to create new skeleton models than new animations.

  • My crew and I understand there needs to be a "buddy system" when running Athena's quests. 1 person to dig up chests / solve riddles, etc. And 1 person to be the bait from the horde of skeletons.

  • @daddy-sanctus said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    My crew and I understand there needs to be a "buddy system" when running Athena's quests. 1 person to dig up chests / solve riddles, etc. And 1 person to be the bait from the horde of skeletons.

    It's not about difficulty, it's about monotony and overuse. It's not a challenge to kill skeletons, it's just boring and painfully overused.

  • Doing everything they can to slow people down even further.
    Theres a reason why I've not played in a fortnight.

  • Very true! Skeletons spawn after spawn after spawn with only a minute for a breather. Then the spawn of the dreaded pistoleros and life is no more. They need to be tweaked big time!!

  • This is a post for after they finish the barely existent physics system.

    It's crazy they even got skeletons into the release version.

  • One might even claim Rare is in the “bone zone.”

  • @kall-sands said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    One might even claim Rare is in the “bone zone.”

    I have a bone to pick with them.

  • @eatdamuffin said in Rare we need to talk about your addiction... It's hurting your playerbase.:

    Your bone f****h is out of control and obscene. Clink, clack. Crunch. There's more skeletons in the ground in your world, than there are grains of sand. I don't understand how there could be so many dead pirates, who is commiting this atrocity? Why isn't the Pirate UN involved? Is there some factory somewhere hidden beneath the waves pumping them out in numbers that Westworld would be jealous of? How is it that a voyage can produce more skeletons than a skull fort, the epicenter of skeleton based difficulty?

    I can't take it anymore. Skeleton based difficulty needs to go the way of the dodo but please cremate it rather than bury it. I can't take another skeleton being made.

    I try to take refuge in a nice relaxing level 50 Gold Hoarders voyage. I mean it's just riddles and X marks right??? I step foot on the beautiful sandy shores ready to puzzle and navigate myself to riches...

    NO Rare says, YOU must fight the skeletons, the SKELETON is the game. SEA OF SKELETONS.

    I jump off my sloop and I apparently step on the skeleton landmine. Six spawn. Kill them, take five steps. Six more spawn. Dig in a spot, five more spawn. Kill them, run for a bit. Five more spawn. Swim back to my boat they're all on shore using them aimbots all the Xbox players complain about.

    They cackle at me, taunt me. But enough is enough. Today's patch is just too much...

    "Being on an Order of Souls voyage no longer causes fewer ambient skeletons to spawn."

    ORDER OF SOULS DIDN'T SPAWN THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF SKELETONS?! HAVE YOU DONE YOUR OWN VOYAGES ABOVE 40? WHY WOULD WE NEED MORE SKELETONS?! EVER?!

    This is without even talking about the skelpocalypse that are Athena's Voyages. I won't go there... I can't go there.

    There must be some challenge beyond throwing tons of skeletons at us at every stop. Please I beg you Rare, anything but more skeletons for every facet of the game. It's overused, it's tired, it's dead. You get over them after level 10. Did anyone ever tell you variety is the exquisite spice of life? That maybe... just maybe there's other options out there for you than enabling whichever dev or devs have an addiction to all things boney?

    Please I'd be happy with you utilizing the other enemy assets in the game! Please next time I jump ashore spawn some sharks on land, make them float above the sands, maybe a few disembodied Kraken tentacles, how about some snakes??? Please Rare. Please. I beg you just put anything else in other than skeletons. Can your servers really handle so many skeletons spawning on every voyage? MAYBE IF YOU SPAWNED LESS YOU COULD UP THE PLAYER COUNT. Think of the benefits, you wouldn't need to think of new ways to spawn skeletons.

    I mean come on... when you come out with a Fishing Trading Company, you're not going to have us fish up skeletons are you???

    Man i loved your post, so fricking funny. You know what else is funny? skeletons have better aim than the average xbox player xD lol

  • Yeah when they originally labeled such shenanigans as "b****e traps" I was seriously disappointed.
    I was expecting Goonies style b****e traps not JUST skellies every frikkin time.

  • This has been one of the first threads I've seen that has put a smile on my face, it's comical and punctual.

    Be warned however, i hear some of the dev team may have a bone to pick with you

  • Just make sure everyone keeps complaining about how OP the guns and swords are so they keep getting nerfed. Then when they get to a higher level they b***h about not being able to fight the AI properly. Kinda funny to me there is a progression system on the difficulty of the AI but you have to stay equal to a day one person on your weaponry and carrying capacity. It makes for really fun legendary voyages basically impossible to do solo

  • Take two steps on shore, skeleton spawns. Play music, skeleton spawns. Dig in the wrong spot, skeleton spawns. Dig in the right spot, skeleton spawns. Catch an animal, skeleton spawns. Quit the game after a day of killing skeletons, guess what? The skeletons still spawn.

    I can't even move in my own household with out skeletons spawning in. Who is the necromancer behind this!?

  • I was right up the very top of Crooked masts, tiny tiny bit of land up there, hit the ground with my shovel and twelve, I kid you not, twelve naffin' skeletons spawned. With it being such a small space it was almost impossible to fight them, I got killed 3 times before I finally got my chest.

    On a bigger island I can out run them but on Crooked Masts, especially with all the snakes spitting at you, it does become a little bit frustrating at times, especially when it takes eight hits to kill them.

  • At least give us some Zombie pirates, Ghost Pirates, Cannibals and other enemy types to shake things up.

  • @eatdamuffin Very well stated. I agree completely with you and appreciate your way of making your point.

  • Well to be fair, the game IS pretty 'Bare Bones' at the moment!

  • @eatdamuffin
    This beautifully illustrates your point.
    https://youtu.be/SAO6dGrgRCM

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