More Cannons on the sloop

@rinquinquin Because a sloop isnt intended for the same type of combat. /thread

I'm divided on this

@rumham636 Can you explain the differences because I can understand it but I don't see those differences^^

@rinquinquin Take the classic dynamic most games use for balance. You have your bigger slower characters (more health and damage with a lower speed) and you have your smaller faster characters (easier to kill but quicker.) That is the same dynamic here. If you play a sloop like a galleon you will most likely lose as long as the galleon crew is halfway competent. Play to the ships advantages. Use speed and maneuverability to your advantage. I have managed to sink plenty of galleons on a solo sloop by plotting a good rotational arc around them to allow me maximum time to fire while staying out of their range.

Edit: The up close game is the galleons strong suit. 4 cannons ripping you will sink you for sure. They have more manpower to board/shoot/repair/steer. Don't play into their strengths.

@nunoazuldimeter false...you lost for one of two reasons. You played against a competent crew...or the more likely scenario, you played the sloop wrong. You can easily fight a galleon with a solo sloop if you play it correctly. There is balance here but you need to use it. If you want apples to apples fight a galleon with a galleon.

@nunoazuldimeter said in More Cannons on the sloop:

@rinquinquin
We can't take down a Galleon with only one cannon.. it's impossible...

Whaaaaaat!? I have taken down countless galleons with my "measly single cannon" You need to be better at positioning because that's your strength as a sloop, Not fire power. Out maneuver them.

@markglow said in More Cannons on the sloop:

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Yeah, but a galleon with a couple good shooters can wreak havoc on a sloop. when you have 3 or 4 cannon balls hitting your boat every 4-5 seconds,,, a sloop has no chance, not even to get into a good position, too busy fixing.

Don't get yourself in that position, You should NEVER be in a broadside position of a galleon you are just asking for it then, That's where the sloop excels. Circle around put your 3 or 9 o'clock on their 6 o'clock so they can't touch you.

@markglow said in More Cannons on the sloop:

I would also like to see 4 cannons on the sloop, but one on the bow and one on the aft. this would allow the sloop to combat from more angles, maybe leveling the playing field a bit when engaged with a galleon.

To level the playing field you need to practice positioning more, That's it. Your sails are more important in a fire fight then your cannon believe it or not. there should NEVER be a front facing cannon that will break combat and just encourage griefing/cheesing in a chase. Shoot forward in a cannon catch their ladder, if you miss get back on your ship and try again.

@markglow
when you have 3 or 4 cannon balls hitting your boat every 4-5 seconds, you allready messed up way before that

@nunoazuldimeter I hear you but that just proves you're playing the sloop wrong. It's not a sit there and fight kind of ship. Its a hit and run type ship. You try to knock down drag out with a galleon you're done. Play smart and you will win. The sloops saving grace is maneuverability, if you aren't moving you've removed its biggest strength.

@nunoazuldimeter Boarding right now is a major necessity to prevent the victory. Even in history they did that. They incapacitated the ship then boarded. I usually board after a good volley and kill them as the are trying to repair. This is normal and I can easily take down a crew of 3-4 members distracted repairing on a galleon and have them sink. It's in the planning and positioning not just throwing lead at them and hoping for the best.

@nunoazuldimeter
Well the game simply isnt designed around actually sinking ships with cannons. You gotta get up close and board, that's what yer mate is for on the sloop. The galleon has more cannons because they're slower to maneuver, they get more firepower as a trade off.

The most effective strategy right now is to position your ship so you can fire upon the enemy but can't be fired upon. Then, you put a few holes below the waterline to send the enemy crew scrambling to repair. You use that opening to send as many boarders as possible, while the rest of the crew continues to lay down supporting cannon fire.
Of course, this is more of a general strategy. Actual tactics are very situational.
For example, if the other crew has not spotted you, it might be wise to silently sword dash on board and see if they have any loot, before engaging in an all out battle, or sneak up with a keg move and then follow up with the tactic above.

Simply cannoning everything to death would be rather boring. It can be succesfull against a sloop tho, if you manage to kill or knock off their crew with the cannons.

@nunoazuldimeter I cant imagine the OOS mission that would require you have two cannons shooting at skeletons. Maybe if it's a lot of gold skeletons but water and a shotgun work wonders here. I usually save my cannon balls for enemy ships.

@nunoazuldimeter Fair enough...however re-working a balanced ship to suit your "way of play" is nonsensical. If you're finding those missions too hard with two or with a sloop the game allows you to play with more players on a bigger ship. Use it.

@nunoazuldimeter I'd be interested to see how 2 cannons would play out. My initial thought is that with the increased mobility and two crew shooting cannons it would take sloops from balanced and turn them into galleon killers.