Riddle maps should always give captains chest or above

  • other wise there is no point to do them

    cancle and get a map that gives you 6 chest at once

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  • @splatulated in german we say "Kleinvieh macht auch Mist"
    "Small animals also makes dirt", or so...means, you get there too, but slower
    Deal with it

  • Yes, they should.

    The sheer idiocy of the system is intriguing.

  • @splatulated Okay maybe not captain's chest, I'd say for those like 4-5 part really hard riddles you should at least get a marauders but a seafarers from that just makes you wanna stop playing the game and a castaways is borderline insulting l**o. So I know where you're coming from.

  • It's not only chests quests, happenned to me to have killing skels missions with like 10 waves of skels including several shady ones and metal/golden ones to eventually earn a 400 golds skull...

    This is such a half done messy game X'D

  • Marauders at least

  • Riddle quests are best just abandoned. They force you to spend to much time exposed to danger for the c****y rewards.

  • I don't see the issue. You are given a map and it's a gamble. If you watch the latest video you'll see that they talk about having events that can help with factions.

  • It used to be like that and it sucked. Almost everyone complained because you could call exactly what you would get every time. A better solution would be to just give more reward for actually completing voyages, or to spawn a higher average number of random chests on riddle islands.

  • I also think that this is an issue.

    Very few people are doing them because it is not efficient. And that is a pity, because the riddles are actually cool and probably quite some work went into designing them.

    At the same time I don’t think that a captains chest would solve the problem, because maps with 5 cheats on one island will still be more lucrative, so we probably need increased XP for solving a riddle.

  • @splatulated if you're actually doing the riddles then something is wrong. No one does riddles except for new players or players that hate themselves.

  • Cursed chest drop rate up to 30% on riddles would be nice.

  • When we are on a legendary voyage, i will shoot myself to the riddle island, fullfil that riddle and use the mermaid back. The time isnt worth the chest. Last time we got 2 seafearers chest from both riddle maps which is ridiculous.

  • But don't you need instant gratification?
    Games are only fun if I see big numbers everytime I do anything!

  • @personalc0ffee said in Riddle maps should always give captains chest or above:

    @dennis-box That's the fun of it.

    As @Natsu-v2 already said they already experimented with these ideas and it hurt the game.

    I dont understand what you mean. Where is the fun in getting literally nothing for your time and effort? Thats exaclty the reason why we let someone solve the riddle alone while the rest of the crew going to the next island to fullfill the other voyages. We just need to solve that riddle so we dont even bother in digging the chest up. Not sure what the real funpart is you are refering to.

  • I can sympathize with the view that the rng is part of the game.

    I do tend to agree though, that finding a castaway chest after spending a while exploring an island to solve a riddle is not fun.

    Getting the same guaranteed reward is probably not a good solution either. But something needs to be tweaked, because it is a pity that most people just skip this type of quest altogether.

  • @dennis-box
    But you don't get 'literally nothing'. You get a chest plus whatever random drops you find and ships you sink along the way.

  • @nebenkuh said in Riddle maps should always give captains chest or above:

    @dennis-box
    But you don't get 'literally nothing'. You get a chest plus whatever random drops you find and ships you sink along the way.

    A seafearer isnt worth anything when you are close to legendary or legendary itself. I rather have 5-6 X marks the spot treassure maps where i can dig up 6 chest in almost the same time or maybe even faster compared to 1 chest. The time spent is not nearly enough compensated to make it worth the effort.

  • @dennis-box
    So? You still get something, not nothing.
    I reroll into treasure maps too, but I am sick of people turning everything into absolutes.
    "game with zero content"
    "you get literally nothing"
    "I've seen everything after 5 hours!"
    All of those statements people constantly make on here are factually wrong. If people need to feel entitled and to demand things, they should at least get their semantics right when doing so.

  • I think they should just not limit riddles to one chest. Each point of a riddle should have a chance to add "Dig here". With that in mind I might actually consider the longer riddles because more lines means more chances for "dig here" to appear.

  • @nebenkuh said in Riddle maps should always give captains chest or above:

    @dennis-box
    So? You still get something, not nothing.
    I reroll into treasure maps too, but I am sick of people turning everything into absolutes.
    "game with zero content"
    "you get literally nothing"
    "I've seen everything after 5 hours!"
    All of those statements people constantly make on here are factually wrong. If people need to feel entitled and to demand things, they should at least get their semantics right when doing so.

    its correct, its worth almost nothing, close to 0 which i exagerated to give it more meaning. To make you feel better, its feels like nothing, its something that isnt even worth mentioning. Its just to get my point across which everyone seems to understand

  • @personalc0ffee said in Riddle maps should always give captains chest or above:

    No it should not.

    Always knowing what you get sucks and takes the fun out of it. It's an adventure. That's why it is called a VOYAGE.

    People need to stop complaining about the RNG system. It is perfectly fine, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. That's the point of RNG rolling.

    That's the fun of it.

    If you feel it isn't worth your time to go out of your way, don't do it and vote cancel it.

    You can vote cancel at any point in the mission whether it's immediately or on the final chapter. You don't have to do the entire voyage to get credit.

    merchant quest tell you what you get

    any quest that tells you to get a gold animal = 1k gold per gold animal

    and no it doesnt suck the fun out of it

    what sucks the fun out of the game is spending 20-30 minutes doing a riddle and then getting a castaway worth 50 gold

  • @personalc0ffee said in Riddle maps should always give captains chest or above:

    @splatulated That is also not correct.

    You do not absolutely get gold animals on every inventory of goods nor are you guaranteed such.

    Not every gold animal is worth 1k, some are worth more. I don't think it can go below 1k but I'm actually not sure.

    You are complaining about features that are in the game, to give it excitement.

    You're thinking too much about the end reward and not the journey to get there.

    the journey is fairly repetitive and boring

    after the 8th time all that matters is the end reward

    also with merchant just keep buying and cancelling quest until it gives you the thing to collect gold animals

    easier if you collect like 20 gold chickens then only do the quest that ask for gold chickens

    and cancel after you turn in the gold chickens ignoring the non gold chickens on the list

  • To be honest I enjoy a lot the riddles, it's the best PvE thing in the game, I don't care if the reward is better or not.

    ...but well, the rewards could be better the higher is your reputation.

  • Maybe marauder's or even seafarers
    but you shouldn't have to follow four hints, spend an hour searching for a single, tiny skeletal foot sticking out of the ground just to count your paces, dig and up pops some stupid castaway's box of used condoms worth 20 gold

  • @freecellqt said in Riddle maps should always give captains chest or above:

    @splatulated if you're actually doing the riddles then something is wrong. No one does riddles except for new players or players that hate themselves.

    Hahaha that sunk me. Or players that hate themselves!

    I'll only do one or two riddles a day or session because they are intriguing.

    But that said, if I try to cancel a riddle and my random won't I generally just leave and hop. I hate almost feeling that way like an elitest..

    Riddles need a balance that's a fact. 6x chest map vs riddle is just ludacrous. I think that's why they added the limited vouyages Per ingame day? But I just switch from gold to oos and that's 6 chances of a good map vs singles or riddles. Needs work, not limitations or excessive rewards just on par. Make the riddle evolve 3 tiers (3xchest) for the same island or something idfk..

  • You’re just a hater. I love going half way across the map for a single castaway chest 👌

  • I think that they should give every chest but the odds of getting good chests should be a lot higher so there's some actual incentive to do them. Or they should give you some gold and rep for finishing quests.

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