Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.

@brutalpandax Did you really expect something positive to come out of this topic really ? I mean its a known issue for a while and rightly so and than out of nowhere you make a topic claiming its unbalanced with the worst argument you could even give. Sorry, but you knew what you are getting into. Asking you again how does one shot kill help you when the person that camps you is behind you doing the same thing ?

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 replies like "stop crying", "stop whining", "you just got bested", "you don't know how to play the game", "noob", "you're butt hurt", you just got caught for being an a*s by somebody not trying to be an a*s and now you're excusing it because you thought it was warranted since you sensed frustration from me.

So let's go back... pre-you trolling me with @brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 wow that's cool, thanks for clearing that up, i couldn't have done it without you

I did say you got bested... You consider that trolling? How else could I rephrase that in a way that doesn't sound like trolling?

I understand your frustration, however as I said before you are barking up the wrong tree man. The bus is fine, it was broken before. Camping was broken before the patch and is still broken. Changing the bus back will not fix camping, it will only break the bus. I don't know how else to put that.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@gordon-sevencav i wasn't talking about spawn camping in general. im talking about the update and how after it there is no way to take 2 campers down. prior to the update you could do that, now you can't. i think it shouldn't be defeat until your ship has sunk.

Yes well, if you're being spun camped then the battle is already over isn't it? The battle itself was lost as soon as one ship had no players left to man their vessel. That's no longer your ship at that point. Due to the inability of boarding players to sink a ship from the inside without the use of gunpowder Barrel, camping you is the only way to actually get you to go away. Wait for you to Scuttle your ship. One person fresh spawning in shouldn't be able to kill two players who are waiting for him either unless caught unaware. An applicable situation comparison is like a Sloop and The Galleon scoring off broadside to broadside and the Sloop saying it should be able to sink The Galleon without having to use its blind spots.

@brutalpandax You deserve every bit of trolling and negative post that are thrown your way mate the fact that you could not even answer a single question and the fact that you are unable to defend your argument when someone is attacking it proves to me and probably most of the people that replied to you that you are a little child that lost a fight and decided to make a post and vent some heat.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 "well, it makes sense case this isn't COD... it's an adventure game. :)"

passive aggressive trolling. youre still on hear with captainflintkin liking each other's posts excusing your trolling behavior. you guys are pathetic lol im signing out.

Ok well if you feel that way then fine. It wasn't meant as passive aggressive, but more as to the type of game this is and why one shot close range weapons don't really belong. But I understand the confusion, the post didn't go your way and you didn't expect that. However, I hope when you look back, you can see that we tried to be nice and help you understand what the root of the issue was. But probably not as you have degraded to name calling. night night :)

@gordon-sevencav said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@gordon-sevencav i wasn't talking about spawn camping in general. im talking about the update and how after it there is no way to take 2 campers down. prior to the update you could do that, now you can't. i think it shouldn't be defeat until your ship has sunk.

Yes well, if you're being spun camped then the battle is already over isn't it? The battle itself was lost as soon as one ship had no players left to man their vessel. That's no longer your ship at that point. Due to the inability of boarding players to sink a ship from the inside without the use of gunpowder Barrel, camping you is the only way to actually get you to go away. Wait for you to Scuttle your ship. One person fresh spawning in shouldn't be able to kill two players who are waiting for him either unless caught unaware. An applicable situation comparison is like a Sloop and The Galleon scoring off broadside to broadside and the Sloop saying it should be able to sink The Galleon without having to use its blind spots.

Well said, and yes the ability to "Manually" sink a ship is needed.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@gordon-sevencav i dont think the battle is lost if you are still respawning on your ship which is afloat. of course now it is lost since there is no way to deal with spawn camping anymore which is also my point. people spawn camping your ship shouldn't be the end of your possibilities to come back.

Jesus I told you already as other did THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUS. This is entirely different issue. Spawnkiing is an issue just because RARE got lazy and decided to use the "I am stuck" option as a way to go around the problem does not mean its fixed. But it was worst before the fix for sure I got one shot spawnkilled and that is worst than not been able to kill your attackers instantly trust me. When you get insta killed on respawn you are done lights out hello ferry. When that is taken away you have options you can jump in the water swim to their ship try to sink it or regroup with your mate in the water and try to take your ship back.

blunderbuss is useless now

I mean... If you can one shot from respawn they can one shot while you respawn too, it's still on equal terms, now they have to take better aim and so do you. You can still one shot you just have to be a little better about it.

You yourself said you and your buddy didn't respawn together and instead kept stuttering and throwing yourselves into a 1 vs. 2 arrangement, which should be done regardless if it was pre or post nerf as it would give you a better chance.

In the previous iteration it would have been the same story. They can both shoot you and guarantee your death and you might get one if you're lucky.

You got outplayed man...

The eye of reach and pistol were useless to begin with now they made the blunderbuss worse than the pistol and the eye of reach

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 me resorted to name calling? you were the first one to say i was "butt hurt" and your buddy just wrote this to me: "You deserve every bit of trolling and negative post that are thrown your way mate the fact that you could not even answer a single question and the fact that you are unable to defend your argument when someone is attacking it proves to me and probably most of the people that replied to you that you are a little child that lost a fight and decided to make a post and vent some heat."

so yeah good night

Fair, I wouldn't really consider calling someone butthurt an issue, however. It happens to all of us at some point... its a state of being, not a character trait.

As for my "buddy" yeah, that's between you two...

But is fair that seeing you are not defending the OP but the replies to us that you understand why we want to keep the nurf?

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 me resorted to name calling? you were the first one to say i was "butt hurt" and your buddy just wrote this to me: "You deserve every bit of trolling and negative post that are thrown your way mate the fact that you could not even answer a single question and the fact that you are unable to defend your argument when someone is attacking it proves to me and probably most of the people that replied to you that you are a little child that lost a fight and decided to make a post and vent some heat."

so yeah good night

Fair, I wouldn't really consider calling someone butthurt an issue, however. It happens to all of us at some point... its a state of being, not a character trait.

As for my "buddy" yeah, that's between you two...

But is fair that seeing you are not defending the OP but the replies to us that you understand why we want to keep the nurf?

Stop arguing with these idiots rare will see that you are just arguing back and forth they won’t realize how much they ruined the blunderbuss

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@crash4654 I agree with all your points, but you no longer can take down a player if you are camped by 2. previously, yes they can take you down with one shot but you can take at least one of them down when you spawn. now, let's say if everybody shoots at the same time, me shooting one of them and 2 of them shooting me then in this update, i will get one to low health while they will kill me. before the update it would be i would kill one and they would kill me. that gives me a chance when i respawn to get the other guy.

That's a best case scenario and you know it though. The average scenario in this same instance would be the exact same result as you're experiencing now.

There's always the chance that you'd shoot one guy and do almost full damage but he'd survive anyway just from random pellet spread.

You still can one shot, but you have to be better about it, and so do they.

@brutalpandax stop arguing with these idiots rare will only see you arguing back and forth and won’t realize how much they ruined the only good gun in the game.

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

The eye of reach and pistol were useless to begin with now they made the blunderbuss worse than the pistol and the eye of reach

See I like the pistol now, but I'm for accuracy over spread. Plus I think the idea is to drive players to the sword.

@jm0n3y1994 You are both missing the point RARE is making there isn't suppose to be only 1 good gun in the game geniuses they all are suppose to be equal to some extend. Before the update everybody used the bus , why do we have a pistol and sniper if everyone uses the bus ?

@captainflintkin said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 You are both missing the point RARE is making there isn't suppose to be only 1 good gun in the game geniuses they all are suppose to be equal to some extend. Before the update everybody used the bus , why do we have a pistol and sniper if everyone uses the bus ?

False sense of variety?

Like most things in the game?

Ba-dum-tsh

@captainflintkin I’m an absolute beast at PUBG and fortnite i can kill someone with every gun in either game. I can’t kill anyone with the eye of reach or pistol neither can my friends I’m a level 29,27,23 been playing since Mar. 20th i waited outside Gamestop before it was open to get the game now it’s not even fun to play because the blunderbuss is useless and everyone besides me server hops

@brutalpandax then that should tell you something about the previous state of the gun right? The fact that you could spawn in with no idea where they are and just blast and kill one meant there's something wrong with it.

In no way should you be able to take on two placed and suspecting players because your weapon has one shot capability due to luck.

I'd actually venture to say that the players now were actually good and the ones from before to be complete trash...

I've had one member of my crew fend of an entire galleon from spawning twice before and they definitely sucked. If any of them had a lick of skill or sense that would have been a completely different story.

@wildeyedjokr The whole game is suppose to be about balance , that is why we only have cosmetics. Is it balanced atm. ? No but they are getting there the bus nurf was one of the many steps they will have to make in order to get there. The next steps are gunpowder barrels and spawnkilling in that order probably.

@captainflintkin said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@wildeyedjokr The whole game is suppose to be about balance , that is why we only have cosmetics. Is it balanced atm. ? No but they are getting there the bus nurf was one of the many steps they will have to make in order to get there.

Oh trust me, I hate the blunderbuss. All it leads to is bunny hopping one shots when it really "Shines".

I'd be with you guys on this argument if not for the three pages of back and forth "you're just bad at the game". I hate that even more than bunny hopping one shots.

@brutalpandax Because you can't if they can one shot kill you and you can one shot kill them you cannot win 1vs2 against them. Now you can because you have time to react.