Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions

@karl-the-native said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@thegr8artiste
Completely wrong. I have had to scuttle my ship several times because it got stock on the shore between a building or something and it would not go back into the water. I am sure many people have come across this as well, thats called lag son, not sinking.

Learn to hoist the sails up and maneuver out of it, you act like it's a hard concept.

@thegr8artiste I haven't been spawncamped, but I think you could use your brain a little to understand how it works: a player spawns in his little sloop. 2 to 3 players will be looting his ship of every single resource he has / chests. he spawns, he cant battle all of them since they are all waiting for him to spawn back and the spawn locations are very well known, but the guy spawning wont know where they are. SIMPLE.

if someone is on your ship, take their ship? do you play vs little kids or something

@thegr8artiste said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@nomadical13 said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@thegr8artiste said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@nomadical13 said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@thegr8artiste said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@nomadical13 said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

There is absolutely no reason to add a cost to scuttling your ship.
It should delete active missions ANY time your ship sinks.
I'm of the 'One ship per server unless you buy more' camp, so I'm not looking for an easymode, I just prefer some immersion in my game logic.

I just explained why free scuttles are a bad thing and can be abused.

The free resources respawn spam that's been fixed with respawn distance? Not even that is a reason for a magical decrease in your gold to put holes in your own ship, and it's been fixed. There's no reason to have a cost to scuttle.

Of course there's a good reason for it, how the hell will you magically conjure a new ship without paying for it?

So you pay for a new ship, I'm 100% behind that. That still has nothing to do with being a good reason to pay for scuttling.
I think your ship should be one free per server, then you buy more or server swap.
Paying to sink your ship is not the mechanic you're looking for, paying to spawn a new one is.

Scuttling does spawn a new one.
Either way works though.

Scuttling sinks your ship. When your ship sinks with the current mechanic you spawn a new one. These are two separate functions. I get your goal, I even agree with it. Just trying to ensure the correct function is modified if any.
There are other reasons to scuttle or sink your own ship that have nothing to do with pvp or any other part of the game. Like logging off and playing music as your ship sinks.
Ramming into rocks takes what 2 minutes longer? Your level of patience aside, adding a scuttle cost wouldn't even solve your complaint.

@salazar-armando said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@thegr8artiste I haven't been spawncamped, but I think you could use your brain a little to understand how it works: a player spawns in his little sloop. 2 to 3 players will be looting his ship of every single resource he has / chests. he spawns, he cant battle all of them since they are all waiting for him to spawn back and the spawn locations are very well known, but the guy spawning wont know where they are. SIMPLE.

if someone is on your ship, take their ship? do you play vs little kids or something

Do you play as a little kid or something? If 2-3 players are on your ship and you can't kill them then bunny hop overboard and steal theirs. If you suck so desperately bad that even this is impossible then leave the game or scuttle and pay up.

@thegr8artiste

Extreme circumstances like someone about to board and take your ship?

It's a game. These are the mechanics allowed in game.

Have you ever had someone board your ship and stand on the bottom deck, killing you every time you respawn? That's when you scuttle.

If it costs $5k to do that, nobody will play.

@thegr8artiste yeah ok, like everyone does, then all 3 people follow you into the water, and you die again because there is no way you are beating them 1v3 in the water. there will always be 1 guy guarding the ship and you wont be able to get up the strairs without a blunderbuss in your face. again, if you play vs little kids this might not happen to you.

you are in denial about everything my dude

@stem589 said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@thegr8artiste

Extreme circumstances like someone about to board and take your ship?

It's a game. These are the mechanics allowed in game.

Have you ever had someone board your ship and stand on the bottom deck, killing you every time you respawn? That's when you scuttle.

If it costs $5k to do that, nobody will play.

So when an enemy ship approached pirates would just sink their own ship in terror right? I already said it doesn't happen to me and should not ever happen to anyone with a brain. Failing those requirements just leave the game or pay the fee.

I actually have a video of a dude who got his sloop stuck to the point of not being able to move it. It clipped into the dock and wouldn't move, turn, do anything.

He's also the worst pirate ever, but still... he wouldn't have been able to get out

@thegr8artiste said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@stem589 said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@thegr8artiste

Extreme circumstances like someone about to board and take your ship?

It's a game. These are the mechanics allowed in game.

Have you ever had someone board your ship and stand on the bottom deck, killing you every time you respawn? That's when you scuttle.

If it costs $5k to do that, nobody will play.

So when an enemy ship approached pirates would just sink their own ship in terror right? I already said it doesn't happen to me and should not ever happen to anyone with a brain. Failing those requirements just leave the game or pay the fee.

Go ahead and look up WW2 references to scuttling ships.

Happened regularly to keep ships from becoming the enemies.

;)

@thegr8artiste said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@salazar-armando said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

@thegr8artiste I haven't been spawncamped, but I think you could use your brain a little to understand how it works: a player spawns in his little sloop. 2 to 3 players will be looting his ship of every single resource he has / chests. he spawns, he cant battle all of them since they are all waiting for him to spawn back and the spawn locations are very well known, but the guy spawning wont know where they are. SIMPLE.

if someone is on your ship, take their ship? do you play vs little kids or something

Do you play as a little kid or something? If 2-3 players are on your ship and you can't kill them then bunny hop overboard and steal theirs. If you suck so desperately bad that even this is impossible then leave the game or scuttle and pay up.

You do understand these people are being camped and are being killed before they can even see where on their own ship they spawn right?

Surely you're not this ignorant before you're claiming "feedback"

@thegr8artiste "This will prevent it from being abused to restock resources."

And make camping situations worse, if you make this happen, that means galleons harassing sloops can do so as long as they want. And victims would lose money just to escape bullying.

Horrible idea dude, i'ts fine you want to solve a restocking issue, but you need to consider ALL the consequences of your suggestions.

The best way to deal with this is to make ships spawn without resources, a far better alternative than what you are suggesting.

@thegr8artiste said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

This will prevent it from being abused to restock resources. People are scuttling their ships for no reason whatsoever and it's incredibly unrealistic and lame. Scuttling your ship was only done in extreme irregular circumstances.

It's significantly faster to go to the nearest island and restock than to scuttle and find the person again. They are probably just people that don't want to bother with irrelevant fights that often lead to zero rewards.

@thegr8artiste The scuttling feature is sometimes needed to escape from a respawn/death cycle. I don't see any reason why you should further punish a player in this way.

@thegr8artiste said in Scuttling Your Ship Should Cost 5,000 Gold & Delete Active Missions:

This will prevent it from being abused to restock resources. People are scuttling their ships for no reason whatsoever and it's incredibly unrealistic and lame. Scuttling your ship was only done in extreme irregular circumstances.

Absolutely, 100% agree. And also, if you die once in the game, your account is fully wiped, game uninstalled, and you have to pay another $60 to play the game again. /s