Help me understand what the issues would be of introducing PvE servers...

Buy Assassin creed Black flag if you want pve pirate game.

This is an online PVP / PVE game, thats what the devs did and thats what this game is about... Piracy, looting, and killing. I know this is very difficult to understand as PVP games are not famous (LoL, PUBG, Overwatch) but try to understand something if you dont want pvp maybe, just maybe... dont buy the game. Its not like someone is forcing you to! The pvp players will still be there playing it we just dont wanna hear anymore crying... enough. NOONE is going to create a Sea of Sailors edition of this game just because you guys want it to happen... i wanted a lamborghini a big house and a yacht full of lets call it ladies so i dont get flagged... and i can cry all i want is just not going to happen. Now i can post several times all the pros and cons of me having this things its still NOT happening.

We had 4 scale tests and 1 final beta to know what we were buying... noone forced you or misled you, there is no missing content there is no false information that at some point this would be a pve game!

PLZ stahp !

I think the real problem is that PvE is at such a disadvantage against PvP. Here is what I see as the problems

When you are doing exploration you are in more vulnerable situations because people have to leave the ship to go do the quests, so if another team rolls up on you it's very difficult to get everyone back in time to fight back.

The attacking ships usually have no loot on them and that's partially why they attacked, because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

So even if you manage the difficult task of fending off some attacking crew you likely get nothing out of it.

I realize that you could have more people stay with a ship to try and prevent attacks but that is going to be boring most of the time for people staying on the ship.

My solution would be some type of one time use power-ups (defensive or offensive) that you can get only via exploration or quests that would make it dangerous for people with nothing on their ship to attack people with loot. These items should be worth money as well. That means a ship attacking you without the power-ups could be easily fended off or ships will be more likely to have loot on board because they need power-ups to attack other ships. Those ships would also then have to put themselves in the vulnerable position of docking on an island and looking around.

So I started playing counter strike the other day, and the opposing team had the gall to shoot at me when I was roleplaying...! Same happened in team fortress 2, as well as Rust! What the hell?

I even tried to play Rocket League and people just WOULD NOT stop taking my ball away and scoring. Why aren't people friendly in these games? I just want to walk or drive in circles playing house and chat with people? The developers of these games should all spend time and resources to create pve modes for me tbh, I mean, come on, it's the current year.

@caelumnl The game is called Sea of THIEVES. Where are the Thieves when it's all PVE? That's not even the same game. Go home.

If they add PvE only servers, make sure and change Pirate Legend to Merchant Legend.

im Totally for Pvp and pve servers. This game is so boring as it is. I mainly pve with my buddies only because I feel the majority of crews just runs away when we try to fight to protect there one marauders chest for some reason. I’d rather play with people and against people who wanna throw down. Yesterday we spent the whole time we played just trolling people attacking skull forts because that’s the only place we know we can actually find a ship that will fight back

One big thing u are missing here is that if you separated the servers the pve players would get bored faster because the big aspect of this game is that once you get the loot there is the fear of getting it taken away so in other words sea of thieves would not be sea of thieves if those two types of players were separated.

@lenny2k3 funniest shiit I've seen all day 😂😂

I thought I post these here as well as it seems like they could help a little making people understand things :-).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxpW2ltDNow

Balancing an MMO Ecosystem - Getting a Mix of Player Types - Extra Credits

I am personally the Explorer kind of player and want to play Sea of Thieves for the world and the artstyle. I know some have said play Assassin Creed if they want to play a PVE pirate game, but I per say aren't interested in being a pirate or at least not a bloodthirsty pirate.

I don't think there is anything wrong with having the desire to explore a game world, and even I as a Explorer don't mind some action now and then :-). As I haven't played Sea of Thieves yet I can really comment on Sea of Thieves based on my own experience, I am not sure if I prefer action with NPCs or Players more in terms of fights, but still I do want some action now and then yes.

I am not sure if I want PVE server, but I do want to be able to have okay time even if some people come after me and I lose and have to respawn now and then, I think there should be a balance so you don't get tired and quit.

@timidobserver i get the argument that it would turn PvP servers into basically deathmatches because all the aggressive players would be in one server and the passives in another... But to be honest that just sounds like trolls upset they won't have easy targets.

@caelumnl because quite frankly there aren't enough things to do in the game.
I can't imagine someone so simpleminded that they could do 3 repeatable quests over and over again infinitely. You must be so lucky and blissful.
Pvp is the only thing that adds some form of variance into the game.

@kiiier-ted said in Help me understand what the issues would be of introducing PvE servers...:

One big thing u are missing here is that if you separated the servers the pve players would get bored faster because the big aspect of this game is that once you get the loot there is the fear of getting it taken away so in other words sea of thieves would not be sea of thieves if those two types of players were separated.

Well, the thing PvPers are missing is that the PvEers are already bored. They are looking for a PvE experience in SoT. Right now, it's not the game of choice for that, and maybe a different pirate game would be. But you have to admit, what other game plays ship sailing so good? Lots of other games just fail in the sailing part. This game rocks in terms of sailing. PvE servers can have other obstacles and uses for getting into fights, like a community war against a sea monster, or Npc ghost ships that are extremely hard for groups of friends, family, or strangers to take part in. Yeah, it may run against a pirate game of cut-throat, but I think diversity for other players in such a great game base would be exciting. PvPer would still have PvP servers, which would not affect their game at all except maybe make the PvP servers more cut-throat and more pirate-like, which I am guessing a PvPer would gladly rise up to. I see having both servers a win-win. And I think more people would buy and play the game, which I'm guessing is what Rare ultimately wants. Can PvEers go to another game? Sure they can, but SoT is just so gorgeous. I love the ocean and boat mechanics.

As I said somewhere else : PvP players feed upon PvE players like leeches, they need them to have fun. But PvE players don't need PvP players and are in fact annoyed by them being so clingy. I still have to see even one PvP player accept that fact, since most of those I talked with are deeply convinced that since they find PvE boring, everybody have to find it boring.
I'm not sure why they seem unable to consider that other players don't want to play the same way they do, and don't have fun the same way. :'/

Some think that adding content will solve this issue. I hope it will, and that it will happen before PvE players decide that the beautiful waves and boat mechanics aren't worth being used as livestock.

@jedi-firefly BC in WoW You go leveling your lvl 40 Paladin.. oh a lvl 110 Death knight kills you, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again... You swap to pve server as you dont want to get one shotet everytime you reborn. in SoT (A PIRATE game) You are 100% even. (just to point the fact out with WoW) Yes I got your point but thats Why there are Pve Servers in WoW, as you dont want lvl 1 VS lvl 110 with 10000% more dmg and HP

Sea of Friends adds an insane advantage to those weirdos who just want to stack fetch quests and amass 1000 chests at once in 20hrs with no threat of losing them.
It's the threat of loss (and the joy of theft) which MAKES this game.
Safe zones/ PvE servers would just be abused.