We won our stronghold, but...

I've heard these kind of stories about strongholds being pummeled by the same groups multiple times. I hope Rare fixes this

@chud-stuffens said in We won our stronghold, but...:

So me and my Cousin got lucky last night and got to experience a Skeleton Stronghold uninterrupted.

We finished it got our loot and moved on. Pretty cool!

Today we go to do another stronghold. On the way in we take down a sloop that is also headed there.

As we're pulling in we see another sloop sink to cannon fire from the island. My cousin hops out and kills them both while I patch the sloop, then he goes and knocks out the Skeleton cannon.

So we're clearing the waves one at a time. Heading back to our boat after each round and checking around from the crows nest to make sure no one else is coming.

Guess who came back 9 freaking times before finally giving up!?

We literally killed these guys 9 times each and sunk their sloop. They had no chance but kept coming back!

So we finally got to finish our stronghold after an hour and a half of destroying the same ship over and over again.

Talk about a bad time!

I get one time close respawn but it's just insanity that they can just spawn at the closest island and come right back over and over!

So my suggestion is that you get one close respawn to attempt to get your revenge. After that once you sink again to the same crew, you get spawned on the far end of the map from where you died. That or you have to wait more time before getting a new ship.

I have no problem with the PvP aspect of this game. But fighting the same trash crew 9 times in a row is ridiculous.
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Thanks for hearing me out.

Well imo it's a boss area that "anyone" can take part in they were probably hoping to get lucky and maybe with them fighting you and the fort fighting you that you might die and they could get any loot available. So yes they didn't get lucky but at the end of the day it's PvP and just because it took a little longer for you to beat the fort whats to fix they are just trying to get better and have a fun experience too honestly I mean you still beat it so...

@crusader-zorro said in We won our stronghold, but...:

I've heard these kind of stories about strongholds being pummeled by the same groups multiple times. I hope Rare fixes this

Fix what? It's meant to be a place that people fight each other til someone comes out victorious and then beats the fort and walks away with the loot. Just because the people fighting might not be the best people out there doesn't matter if they were you guys would be here asking for them to make it easier just enjoy the challenge and reap the rewards.

@s1mply-waffles Making what easier? If you beat the same crew 6-12 times in a row why should they be at an advantage and have a better opportunity at getting a stronghold that the stronger group took over... Don't you think that's a flaw in the game?

@s1mply-waffles I don't think saying "its pvp" validates the clear error in respawning so close to a ship that blasted you out of the water a trillion times. If that's proper PvP, then no one wants any of it. (These opinions have been expressed by the majority of the community and not just myself)

@chud-stuffens I've done this to a crew of 4 by myself. I made the skull fort take roughly 3.5 hours longer for them.

The system may need some smoothening out.

@chud-stuffens The idea has merit but what happens after you attack someone and lose and decide to leave it then they come looking for you to sink you and send you a cross the map.
Anything introduced with a focus on punishing a certain type of play can be turned around on people not trying to be antisocial.

See the problem here is everybody is talking about some annoying guy spawning close by. I was in a game with FIVE ships constantly respawning near the fort. It becomes a colossal mess. When you respawn you actually can SEE the fort from the respawn port. That is entirely too close. In my opinion if you lose you should have to spawn like 20 minutes away. A fort can take forever to take just with one team vs. the skeletons. Add in 5 ships and all respawn 2 minutes away makes it not worth the hassle and you may as well just restart the game and hope for a less busy one.

@crisp-the-fox said in We won our stronghold, but...:

@chud-stuffens I've done this to a crew of 4 by myself. I made the skull fort take roughly 3.5 hours longer for them.

The system may need some smoothening out.

It's a new game of course things need smoothing out but if taking the fort is someone's goal why can't slowing it down for someone not be a strategy for others as well so what if it is an inconvenience this is about being a pirate not about teaming and being friends it's open world PvP wrapped in being a pirate!! And who cares if someone keeps spawning and you run out of supplies boo freaking hoooo or if you kill the same crew 100 times so what their fault for coming back . Im sure You have no problem camping people's ships after you sank them or going after a weaker crew over and over when chest chasing gets boring lol this no different.

Hey here's an idea maybe instead of complaining about stuff like this being an inconvenience maybe strategize wait and see if anyone is going to the fort look at the eyes if they stay green for a while then go for it or don't go after it with a 2 man or solo wait til you have 4 or like I said your a pirate help someone else then when your finished kill them and take the stuff I mean embrace being a pirate!!

I don't agree with respawning across the map why punish someone else for playing the game so what if your annoyed, at the end of the day making someone run out of resources and killing them is a real life strategy how kings defeated other kings and how our military wins some of their battles and I'm sure real life pirates did it as well this game is about strategy and out witting your enemy not about devs making things convenient you have a brain for a reason use it.

@s1mply-waffles Uhhh in real life when you die... you DIE.. There is no respawn.

I agree if your ship is sunk you need to be sent to the farthest outpost, not the nearest. There should be a risk/reward. "We were sunk, is it worth sailing 15-20 minutes back to die again, or just go do something else..." It would also cause the people still alive and fighting at the fort to be in limbo, not knowing if the ship is returning. Maybe they'll take the fort just to have the ships show back up and take everything.

Either way, it seems silly to die, then respawn so close you can literally see the boat that sank you and the fort without even having to use your spyglass.

It also causes and endless revenge loop. My ships sinks someone else's, and they respawn right there and come at me again, and again, and again, and starts breaking the flow of the game. If they spawned on the other side of the map, a new adventure can begin, almost like a reset.

@crusader-zorro said in We won our stronghold, but...:

@s1mply-waffles Making what easier? If you beat the same crew 6-12 times in a row why should they be at an advantage and have a better opportunity at getting a stronghold that the stronger group took over... Don't you think that's a flaw in the game

So what if you took it over and another team takes it from you this game is not about being friendly or helping someone do stuff it's about being a pirate teaming with other crews will kill this game you will have multiple gallions sailing teaming then no one will play the game. Keep killing them finish your objective and move on

@s1mply-waffles Real life pirates didn't get to come back to life 2 minutes away with a brand new ship, fully stocked with cannonballs and bananas and try over and over and over again.

@p4cm4n85 said in We won our stronghold, but...:

Initially they may have been there to cooperate and help beat the stronghold (unless they contacted you first). If I’m approaching a fort with the intention to help and possibly share the booty and come under fire from another crew my intentions will soon switch. If you beat me I will go out of my way to make the stronghold harder and steal all that loot once you’ve done all the hard work :) I think you are missing the point and to be honest getting pretty bored of people bumping their gums over the same thing. You came out on top I don’t know what the issue is..... the forts have a massive skull cloud over the top goading players to have a go if they think they’re hard enough. To have a go at a fort you are taking that risk of coming into contact with others players so be prepared to fight and you may have to fight over and over... high risk large return!

Exactly man well said everyone needs to read this and understand it for real no arguments needed.