Do you feel disheartened? We want to help.

Love the game , i think its wonderful.
Its just that its very popular right now and on the internets children and idiots are often times the ones that scream the loudest.

@laughsmaniacaly I don't know what you wish to gain by this post. But I agree with the fact that they didn't promise anything. They just didn't say anything either. They ignored every question they didn't want to answer.

The game has many issue's, and they just ignored all of them. Do you expect people to be happy about that? There will always be two sides to an argument, but if you're unwilling to seek a middle ground then you'll get one very unhappy side.

@edgar-tweedle said in Do you feel disheartened? We want to help.:

Love the game , i think its wonderful.
Its just that its very popular right now and on the internets children and idiots are often times the ones that scream the loudest.

Wanting to be able to customize my pirate as I see fit, like any role playing game type would allow, doesn't make me a child or an idiot. What's idiotic is forcing people to choose from randomly generated characters in 2018.

@edgar-tweedle same tho, I think it is one of my favorites. :D

@laughsmaniacaly
Sea of Thieves creates a fantastic sandbox to play in but the main concepts constituting the player interaction with the world and other players is off in my opinion.

Risk/reward and death is critized in regards to the PvP element (respawn too close with a fully stocked fresh ship etc.). Survival in this game is secondary. In some situations you might prefer to just die in order to respawn on your ship.

Progression and economy is an absolute core concept in the gameworld. In the games' own logic you might go out to "have fun", but the underlying motivation will allways be the accumulation of wealth in order to accomplish what the game has set up to be accomplished (decoration here).
Thus I am absolutely baffled to see how little content is available in the shops (colour variations of decorations costs tens of hours of gameplay to acquire) and how there is nothing else to spend your money on (like being able to buy animal cages, cannonballs, even decorations that only last for the session or a limited time period).
The price for buying new voyages is so low that it doesn't have any impact on the overall economy - 'clothes, sails and guns' is where 95% of the income is spent :)

Cooperation is limited. I've stood there next to friendly people wanting to ask them to do something together, but nothing really (besides the skelly forts) makes for a meaningful cooperatve journey or interaction. Having a player-based trading system, -bounty system or having the ability to share a single voyage with another crew for shared rewards creates basis for meaningful interaction.

Quests are repetitive, island exploration is not really intriguing (locations in themselves are, but there is nothing extraordinary there to find). Exploration is tied to exploring things on already mapped islands and thus there MUST be new things to find on them. Loads of possibilities there.

My concluding point is, that for a sandbox world to come alive it must contain intrinsic meaning. All of the things that create meaningful interaction with a game world are really shallow in Sea of Thieves - lore, faction (inter)play, survival, character development, economy - these concepts are in the game, but none of them are developed.

That was my criticism. On the other hand I highly enjoy the in-group cooperation, the sea battles and the level playing field, the sandbox itself, the atmosphere.

I do enjoy the game, I just hope for a few minor gripes to be fixed.

PvP is perfectly amazing, but spawn-camping needs to be addressed if it hasn't already. I'm all for having my ship sieged and my booty taken, but to have people just camping my spawn for 20 minutes without taking or doing anything just to be jerks and make it so I can't play is a bit silly. Yes, "scuttling" is an option, but the fact remains they're not doing it to take my loot, which I'd be happy with, they're only doing it to troll, which seems mildly abusive of a mechanic.

Random brigging of players for just having the misfortune of matchmaking needs to be addressed too...Shouldn't have to matchmake for 25 minutes over a series of dozens of games just to find a crew that won't instantly throw you in the brig for spawning.

I'd love to see more weapon types. Nothing "stat" based, but different types of melee and ranged weapons would be nice, add a variety of playstyles and counters. Ships too I suppose, but I'm still getting to grips with the one I play in.

I like the way , how rare and microsoft scammed us all with saying 20% of the game was final beta and now there is almost 0 content added.

Atleast they got alot of money out of this scam.

Good Job Microsoft & Rare very fascinating

I don't see how people are moaning about encountering people me and my m8 were on we did not see any one in like an hour and a half I want more contact that's what make it fun after all

@tuukkatl
i hope it is , i think i speak for alot of people that we expected such a good game, the final beta was awesome and it is a game with so much potential. But the lack of content at this moment. so sad to see.. , and i've got to agree the free pass is not helping because alot of trolls are sailing at the sea at this time.

I hope they will update soon and that this is a kind of april fool joke..

@reavergaming if you think that is the issue wait 2 weeks till the free trial ends then the players that want to pay 55 pounds will play it properly

@es-x-ginge
Mwa the trolls are not the problem. and eventually the trolling will get boring and they will leave.
the lack of content is, there are some things u can do but there is not really an end goal to work towards, they just need to add an economy/clans/more ships and they have an decent start, in my opinion.

@laughsmaniacaly hi sir I am new to game started on the day of release and did not play the beta trials, so know little about what is going on but would like to learn from someone that has experience. I am an older man, 70 and a little slow to catch on to somethings, so if some one has time and patience, would like to learn the game better, respectfully jutland1947.

I very much enjoy the game, however peoples' criticisms are perfectly valid.

Rare themselves stated that the beta was only about 20% of the planned content for launch, but it doesn't feel like they've actually added anything substantial to the game. The only thing added since the beta is the Order of Souls, Cursed Forts and the Kraken.

They also frequently stated throughout their dev talk videos that "so much is in store for launch that we think people will enjoy."

Well where is it then?

My personal issues:

• The company quests are all very repetitive fetch quests. Go to X, bring back Y, repeat for reputation and gold. While player intervention adds a tinge of excitment, the questing gets old fast.

• The cursed forts are far too easy as they are now and essentially make the company quests meaningless. My friends and I can clear them in about 15 minutes and we get between 15,000 - 17,000 gold along with a significant amount of reputation. That is significantly more than the 1000 gold we might get for sailing around islands for 30 - 45 minutes for the companies.

• The Kraken is not nearly the threat it was made out to be and it's not even actually there. The fact that there's no body is kind of ridiculous. Why can't I risk the waters and try to shoot it in the eye?

• The world simply feels empty. While I greatly enjoy the PvP encounters, the severe lack of PvE content makes the world feel dead and empty. I lack anything to do with my time other than just hit the company grind and battle whoever comes my way. That doesn't hold much longevity for me.

• The death fee is a very bad move in my opinion. I explained it in a lot of detail as to why in another thread, but to summarize; The time it takes and the difficulty of acquiring gold is already fairly high due to player intervention, adding the death fee and further punishing players only makes it even harder to earn gold. It's essentially a cheap method to add longevity to the current content and should not be implemented in the games current state.

While I very much enjoy Sea of Thieves, they desparately need to grow this world they've built. They made quite a few claims, such as needing multiple ships to take down the kraken, and they have just proven to not be true.

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@d-cadovius sagte in Do you feel disheartened? We want to help.:

@laughsmaniacaly
Sea of Thieves creates a fantastic sandbox to play in but the main concepts constituting the player interaction with the world and other players is off in my opinion.

Risk/reward and death is critized in regards to the PvP element (respawn too close with a fully stocked fresh ship etc.). Survival in this game is secondary. In some situations you might prefer to just die in order to respawn on your ship.

Progression and economy is an absolute core concept in the gameworld. In the games' own logic you might go out to "have fun", but the underlying motivation will allways be the accumulation of wealth in order to accomplish what the game has set up to be accomplished (decoration here).
Thus I am absolutely baffled to see how little content is available in the shops (colour variations of decorations costs tens of hours of gameplay to acquire) and how there is nothing else to spend your money on (like being able to buy animal cages, cannonballs, even decorations that only last for the session or a limited time period).
The price for buying new voyages is so low that it doesn't have any impact on the overall economy - 'clothes, sails and guns' is where 95% of the income is spent :)

Cooperation is limited. I've stood there next to friendly people wanting to ask them to do something together, but nothing really (besides the skelly forts) makes for a meaningful cooperatve journey or interaction. Having a player-based trading system, -bounty system or having the ability to share a single voyage with another crew for shared rewards creates basis for meaningful interaction.

Quests are repetitive, island exploration is not really intriguing (locations in themselves are, but there is nothing extraordinary there to find). Exploration is tied to exploring things on already mapped islands and thus there MUST be new things to find on them. Loads of possibilities there.

My concluding point is, that for a sandbox world to come alive it must contain intrinsic meaning. All of the things that create meaningful interaction with a game world are really shallow in Sea of Thieves - lore, faction (inter)play, survival, character development, economy - these concepts are in the game, but none of them are developed.

That was my criticism. On the other hand I highly enjoy the in-group cooperation, the sea battles and the level playing field, the sandbox itself, the atmosphere.

I love the Idea of an unexplored Map und you have to discover all Islands by yourself. This makes finding treasures harder because you have to discover the Island in the first place. That simple thing would add so much more progression to the game!

My biggest complaint is the server delay for rewards and achievements, which I understand have been explained for the time being (although I would appreciate client-side achievement tracking). My overall perspective is that we are pirates, and I’m willing to give the game a little time and effort because you never hear about the regular pirates, you only ever hear about the infamous and legendary pirates. If we have any legends out there, they are few and far between at this point. I’m willing to wager that there will be more to do once I reach that point, and I’m personally willing to invest to reach legendary status.