I could imagine a Chest that's like a Big Rock, and makes your Ship hard to controll or even hard to gain speed.
The chest could also have an impact wherever you place it on your ship, if you put it on the left side, Sails also left and a fast wind blows in the sails which causes now to drown your ship, bc of to much weight on the left side.
I'm refeering to the Whining Chest that fills your Ship with water.
So you have a Harder Way back to a outpost while you transport these high value chests.
@sloompie said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
Just no, they did not implent anything to give u an advantage why start now? It will ruin the game like it is now.
You have a point...it would be nice to somehow balance out the “cursed” chest with beneficial ones.
BUT, one of the core ideas of SoT seems to be zero advantage over others due to gear, and this would fall into that category. I like the OP’s idea but agree it could change the core feel of the game.
Hummmm...
If they have chests that give you disadvantages why not have chests that give advantages? I agree that they would be abused so you would have to implement some sort of timer, which shouldn't be too difficult since a pocket watch is standard on all pirates.
A chest that always had the wind at your back would be cool.
@sloompie said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
Just no, they did not implent anything to give u an advantage why start now? It will ruin the game like it is now.
They did not implement anything that gives advantage AND needs farming to be obtained. The idea behind this concept is to make any newcomers to the game no in a disadvantage compared to someone with a lot of hours.
If there is chests that gives disadvantages, chests that would give advantages isn't that crazy.
Plus, maybe some players would keep it instead of selling it, so, when you sink a ship, more chances to have some booty.
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
What sort of other chests could/would enhance your experience of SoT.
How about a chest that doubles the amount of resources you can carry, so 10 bananas, 10 planks, and 20 cannonballs.
A chest that constantly shifts the wind to your favor. I fight the wind more than other pirates sometimes.
That's all I got. I feel like my other ideas are to dumb to mention, lol.
@dn38416 said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
I'd say no, as people would purposefully keep them to gain advantage in PvP over other crews that may not come across the same 'advantage chest' in the session.
I'd prefer more comical ones like the chest that makes you stumble as if drunk, hilariously frustrating.
Thats my whole point - to keep them to gain an advantage till you lose them or somebody better takes them. If pvp players like the battle then there is a further incentive to obtain and utilize them. If there is no vertical progression then this adds an element of fun, unpredicability, and challenge for all sorts of play styles. Its still dependent on skill but the advantage is fleating and random.
@sloompie said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
Just no, they did not implent anything to give u an advantage why start now? It will ruin the game like it is now.
SoT has now become too paranoide about this advantage stuff and too scared of it . This games desperately needs variety, something to make it and game play unpredicable. I fail to see how limited fun incetives could RUIN the game. If your a pvp player, and a good one then let another good crew better you. If you are a pve player then keep it, barter it, or sell it. Its your choice.
@shaggiedo You say till someone better comes along and takes it... What if the better people have this advantage and they just keep destroying everyone and ruining their experiences...
It would turn their game from Sea of Thieves to a Ship Repair Simulator because all you would have was invulnerable PvP players with all the greatest chests sailing around destroying your ship, Rather than you having the ability to sail, adventure and search for treasure.
@foxdodge said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@shaggiedo If you're looking for an advantage then there's non greater than skill.
How about doing it for fun then. The fun is being strangled out of this game at a rate of knots. I'm not interest in the advantage for advantade sake, I'm the most c**p player ever and run from every fight, these chest wouldnt nessessarily help a player like m. but they would change up the battles for everyone.
If we go by just your 2 chest suggestions, although there be many more ideas out there for Chests, I'll break them 2 down.
Extracting water, how much is extracted, how often? A 2 man sloop would end up a 3 man in that case, as the 2 wouldn't have to worry about bucketing water, depending how quick water was extracted, also negates the need to repair.
Hardened hull, I see no point in this, I can't really give a constructive break down, just seems like a buff to PvP to make them (from people that want to run away playstyle perspective) stronger, more overpowered.
The tools are there already for PvE'ers to escape and tools for PvP'ers to hunt.
I'm welcome to more Chests, but ones for fun, even the ones that put you at a disadvantage, the Sorrow keeps you on your toes, that is fun/funny in itself, requires no PvP interaction for the PvE'er to be kept on their toes.
I've had 2 Sorrows on board a Sloop crying out of sync wondering when will I ever get a break from bucketing haha
If you haven't already, there's a thread(s) already with quite some good Chest ideas. Like one occasionally spawns skellies on your ship.
Please don't take any of my post as mean if it comes across that way, just my thoughts on how it may not work.
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@foxdodge said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@shaggiedo If you're looking for an advantage then there's non greater than skill.
How about doing it for fun then. The fun is being strangled out of this game at a rate of knots. I'm not interest in the advantage for advantade sake, I'm the most c**p player ever and run from every fight, these chest wouldnt nessessarily help a player like m. but they would change up the battles for everyone.
That's the problem with other games, they're not a level playing field because some people have upgrades/boosts/perks/ADVANTAGES. Eventually everyone will obtain these upgrades over time, but for new players joining the game at a later stage, it's just assigning them to the role of cannon fodder.
Doesn't sound like much fun to me.
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@its-s****. If everyone has access to them - how. How is it really going to change things. This community has become to stayed to even consider new possibilties. We have cursed chest why not have blessed chests. Is that concept so repulsive. Is not there ying and yang.
Everyone has access to them, Just so long as you're not the short end of the stick without them and being chased/destroyed by the crew with them?
@dn38416 Thanks for the reply. My 2 chest ideas were straight off the top of my head. I was actually looking for ideas better , funer, and more thought out than mine. To be honest you are right about the bilge chest idea, thats exactly the idea I had in mind, not so much negating repair but not need to bail for a bit. Remember its not for the whole game or the wole session, its for HOW LONG YOU CAN KEEP IT.
@its-s****. said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@its-s****. If everyone has access to them - how. How is it really going to change things. This community has become to stayed to even consider new possibilties. We have cursed chest why not have blessed chests. Is that concept so repulsive. Is not there ying and yang.
Everyone has access to them, Just so long as you're not the short end of the stick without them and being chased/destroyed by the crew with them?
I'm not meaning to get you mad. This is an idea, a talking point. I get that you are not too keen on it, thats OK. My wellbeing does not depend on the acceptance of this idea. Its a talking point.I'm glad your talking about it. I myself am a solo player mostly interested in pve. So its not very good for me at all. I did think the pvp guys could have some fun with it though, increase the challenge, raise the stakes, really test their skills.
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@dn38416 Thanks for the reply. My 2 chest ideas were straight off the top of my head. I was actually looking for ideas better , funer, and more thought out than mine. To be honest you are right about the bilge chest idea, thats exactly the idea I had in mind, not so much negating repair but not need to bail for a bit. Remember its not for the whole game or the wole session, its for HOW LONG YOU CAN KEEP IT.
I'm sorry for not coming up with any new ideas to try and add to your idea of advantage chests, I'm not that creative lol, other than the disadvantage ones, but there's a thread with loads that I'd be repeating the same ideas xD
Me and a friend after 2 manning a sloop for 7 hours straight all in that time had a blast up until the end of the session a ship followed us for ages, even thriugh a storm, we cannoned it out and tried to lose em in the storm, had 3 explosive barrrels on the front of their ship and eventually rammed us, blowing us up, sinking us whilst they from our perspective sailed off damage free, it annoyed my friend to not wanting any part with the game.
Which seems silly after how fun it was for us prior to that, considering it's a good tactic, one which everyone including me & him could adopt & the only shame is us not thinking of it first. He's afraid it'll be abused, but I can honestly not wait until I get to play again and be a sneaky so & so with the explosive barrels.
So back onto the advantage chests, should any actually appeal to players, they do need to be thought out first.
@scheefinator said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
Do we always have to sell chest, why not have chests that give advantage while in your possession. Chests like a bilge chest that extracts water, or a hard skin chest that gives more hull protect.
What sort of other chests could/would enhance your experience of SoT.
No, and I'm very against anything that gives advantage over another player. That's not what SoT is about.
You're allowed to be. This is just my opinion but I do think equality in thi s game is an illusion and I must say one sold very well by the developer. Can I ask what you think SoT is about.
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@its-s****. said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@its-s****. If everyone has access to them - how. How is it really going to change things. This community has become to stayed to even consider new possibilties. We have cursed chest why not have blessed chests. Is that concept so repulsive. Is not there ying and yang.
Everyone has access to them, Just so long as you're not the short end of the stick without them and being chased/destroyed by the crew with them?
I'm not meaning to get you mad. This is an idea, a talking point. I get that you are not too keen on it, thats OK. My wellbeing does not depend on the acceptance of this idea. Its a talking point.I'm glad your talking about it. I myself am a solo player mostly interested in pve. So its not very good for me at all. I did think the pvp guys could have some fun with it though, increase the challenge, raise the stakes, really test their skills.
Oh, I'm not mad at all, And I understand, All I'm trying to pass on is that Rare stated in the past that they wouldn't like any form of advantage to give another player the edge over other players, This is so any new player joining his friend isn't out leveled by other players (Similar to joining GTA Online at level 1, into a lobby of level 100-200 kind of idea).
Giving the players a chest or multiple chests that could give them a statistic advantage over other ships would counteract the balance and change this idea of fair and skill based gameplay. (If that makes sense?)
As much as this is a good idea and to be honest there is no harm in having... afterall the game is supposed to be balanced so why couldnt I have i chest that likes to drink rather than cry? What motivation do I have to get rid of one of these chests? Say for example there is a chest that always makes the wind in your favour or a chest that empties waters from your lower deck?? Yeah I'm keeping them and all of a sudden the game becomes unbalanced....
Any advantages gained from chests would need to be so small they are practically nothing -
This might be abit daft, but a Chest in which if you're killed while carrying it, in Ferry of the Damned you get a Ghostly cutlass that can kill any of your foes on the Ferry, this would just allow them to be respawned normally into the world as if they'd gone through the Portal. It offers nothing from being able to do it, as there's no stats, leaderboards, etc just a little daft revenge kill from your ships demise.
Edit; I feel this might be going slightly off topic from the original posters Chest idea.
But a Chest that randomly fills, equips your mug and makes you take a sip of grog every X amount of seconds, taking your hands off the wheel to do it's drinking animation. Slowly getting you more & more drunk as you sail on until sold. People at the beginning, newbies etc that don't yet know of the Chests effect would create some laughs. "W*f I didn't drink? WAIT...WHAT.. WHY am I getting so p***** up?!! Wait is it that damn chest?!" xD
@its-s****. said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@its-s****. said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@shaggiedo said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
@its-s****. If everyone has access to them - how. How is it really going to change things. This community has become to stayed to even consider new possibilties. We have cursed chest why not have blessed chests. Is that concept so repulsive. Is not there ying and yang.
Everyone has access to them, Just so long as you're not the short end of the stick without them and being chased/destroyed by the crew with them?
I'm not meaning to get you mad. This is an idea, a talking point. I get that you are not too keen on it, thats OK. My wellbeing does not depend on the acceptance of this idea. Its a talking point.I'm glad your talking about it. I myself am a solo player mostly interested in pve. So its not very good for me at all. I did think the pvp guys could have some fun with it though, increase the challenge, raise the stakes, really test their skills.
Oh, I'm not mad at all, And I understand, All I'm trying to pass on is that Rare stated in the past that they wouldn't like any form of advantage to give another player the edge over other players, This is so any new player joining his friend isn't out leveled by other players (Similar to joining GTA Online at level 1, into a lobby of level 100-200 kind of idea).
Giving the players a chest or multiple chests that could give them a statistic advantage over other ships would counteract the balance and change this idea of fair and skill based gameplay. (If that makes sense?)
Yes it makes perfect sense and I appreciate your candour. I agree entirely about even playing field, in fact I've always been a big supporter. I think the difference in what I'm proposing is (and I could be way of the mark) the advantage is not given to the player its given to the boat, and its not permanent its very transiant, and its very transferrable. Hope this helps.
Cool suggestions here mateys, a few ideas:
As much as these are neat ideas, I see the issue where having multiple "cursed/blessed treasures" can give your ship an advantage.
However, all of the chests are contestable and if a crew manages to muster many of them before sinking; I almost feel like they deserve the bonus.
We could have these beneficial chests drop at an even smaller rate then cursed or captain's chests so they're harder to accumulate.
@ch3wiie said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
- Poseidon's Gift: Chest that blows winds directly behind your ship to slow chasers.
allthough you can argue that a chest crying its salty tears and filling your boat is also unfair...the chest you decribe gives an unfair advantage and puts players on an different playing field - Unless you only get this as a counter to the chest of sorrows, that is it only works if you have a chest of sorrows on your ship
@splatulated said in Can we have treasure chests that give game advantage while in your possession?:
a chest that plays sea shanties
That's probably the only type of a "positive" cursed chest I could get behind, something that's fun and positive that doesn't give you a direct advantage over another crew. Not to mention it's also a great idea!
