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  • The possibility of having more than one pirate linked to the same account has finally been announced, although it is a premium feature and I have reservations about the price it may cost, it makes no sense not to have the option to keep the main character's progress.

    If someone wants to start from the beginning, just create an alt account, the great thing about having another pirate is being able to use your cosmetics on another type of body without having to get rid of your main one.

    Being forced to unlock everything again to do this doesn't seem right to me, in fact if it has this limitation and the price is high I believe many will not buy it.

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  • Regarding using an alt-account instead; for that you'probably have to redo your friends list, add them to a guild &c.

    Bought & (some ?) Plunder Pass cosmetics are available for all pirates in your profile.

    Perhaps, in the light of fighting against people using alt-accounts to ban evade, alt-accounts would be made more troublesome / expensive ?

  • @lem0n-curry

    Regarding using an alt-account instead; for that you'probably have to redo your friends list, add them to a guild &c.

    This isn't that hard to do, and in fact many people wouldn't even bother doing it, many people just create alt accounts to repeat activities, they don't need to be in the same guilds as their friends, or have a full friends list.

    Perhaps, in the light of fighting against people using alt-accounts to ban evade, alt-accounts would be made more troublesome / expensive ?

    This is not a good solution, there is nothing inherently wrong with having an alt account, furthermore, banning the creation of them after 7 years of play making people have to abandon the progress made on them would seem disrespectful.


    About the limitation imposed on Pirate Profiles, I've been playing since launch, I've only used one potion to change my appearance in this entire period, that is, I'm not spending on appearance regularly, if there was a secondary character that kept my progress I would be willing to spend not only to get a new pirate but probably also on potions over time.

    With the current limitation I have no interest in either, I don't want to repeat everything again and I don't want to get rid of the appearance I use on my main pirate...

    This all seems like a missed opportunity to me, with Rare making less money and many players not getting what they wanted. Remembering that this is an option, players should be able to choose to keep everything or start from beginning.

    There is also the question about rare skins purchased with gold, the ones from 2018/2019/2020... that would not be available just because they were purchased with gold? even though they are impossible to obtain now?

  • We got pirate profiles before saved outfits! XD

  • @lleorb said in Pirate Profile:

    @lem0n-curry

    Perhaps, in the light of fighting against people using alt-accounts to ban evade, alt-accounts would be made more troublesome / expensive ?

    This is not a good solution, there is nothing inherently wrong with having an alt account, furthermore, banning the creation of them after 7 years of play making people have to abandon the progress made on them would seem disrespectful.

    I'm not saying (or suggesting they should) remove existing alt-accounts (when not used to evade bans).

  • I think having the ability to roll a new pirate, and do leveling challenges is a fun idea. I do really think that the first pirate deed should be for free, as a sign of good gesture.

  • @tesiccl

    We got pirate profiles before saved cosmetics! XD

    No joke. They keep beating around the bush.

    There reason behind it so players can create a new pirate and role play differently? Or unlock to pirate legend blah blah.

    I can do the whole role play thing with different outfits. Give me three slots or something. Don’t need a new profile (.which I can’t heard many asking for)

  • It appears Rare mistook what people were asking for about being able to have more than one Pirate. The community expected it to function interchangeably with their current account while keeping the same progression. A simple swap between skins.

    Instead they monetize this and have separate progression tied to the same account. Who even asked for this? It's like you figured out what we wanted but completely misinterpreted what was asked.

    How about the ability to host dedicated private servers to practice, host events, etc. which would have a degree of control over the elements like disabling world events, controlling supplies, choosing spawn locations, etc. That would be a positive way to monetize the game with a benefit to the players. Having a second character under the same account I see little benefit to having

  • Yeah, I don't think this is something that would interest me, but maybe someone will find it useful. If I used an alt. I'd absolutely want a way to invite my main to the account. Imagine hearing a certain orchestral theme while sailing solo on an alt....

  • I does feel odd that we are getting this before outfit presets and other long-requested features.

    It will be useful for folks doing challenges like Nightmare Mode, but I don't see it having mass appeal like presets would.

    And it really feels wrong that they are charging for it, as that just negates the need to have one when an alt will do for most. If this is trying to tackle alt accounts, I doubt it will work. Why not have one free slot unlock when you hit Pirate Legend on your main pirate? And charge for additional slots after that.

  • @cainbong said in Pirate Profile:

    Instead they monetize this and have separate progression tied to the same account. Who even asked for this? It's like you figured out what we wanted but completely misinterpreted what was asked.

    People did actually ask exactly for this. (linked request is 6 years old)

  • I'll find it hilarious if for Xmass we get monetized loadouts hahah. I can almost see it coming.

    @d3adst1ck said in Pirate Profile:

    @cainbong said in Pirate Profile:

    Instead they monetize this and have separate progression tied to the same account. Who even asked for this? It's like you figured out what we wanted but completely misinterpreted what was asked.

    People did actually ask exactly for this. (linked request is 6 years old)

    Maybe they did, but in no way that request was ever more popular than loadouts. Rare is trolling hard lol. Mass player meltdown on YT is off the charts xD

  • This is going to turn out as a half baked feature set just like everything else, such as guilds & captaincy that still has the potential to be great additions to the game, but clearly they moved on.

    Again as stated a million times before, why can't we save cosmetic presets to our pirates? No mention of that?

    Why are we glorifying making alt accounts for ''Roleplaying'' purposes, when that community makes up not even 1% of the playerbase?
    Who is going to actually pay a subscription to this? Has Emporium sales slowed down a lot in tandem the player base declining they are simply looking to exploit other monetization routes?
    Majority of players are already crying about commendations grind, but starting from scratch is the move?

    It's all just confusing and out of touch. Who is actually greenlighting these decisions over there?

  • @r3vanns said in Pirate Profile:

    Maybe they did, but in no way that request was ever more popular than loadouts. Rare is trolling hard. Mass player meltdown on YT is off the charts xD

    I never said it was more popular, but it's not like no one asked for it. Blame the people suggesting useless features, we see tons of them here every day 😉

  • @d3adst1ck said in Pirate Profile:

    @r3vanns said in Pirate Profile:

    Maybe they did, but in no way that request was ever more popular than loadouts. Rare is trolling hard. Mass player meltdown on YT is off the charts xD

    I never said it was more popular, but it's not like no one asked for it. Blame the people suggesting useless features, we see tons of them here every day 😉

    I'd rather blame devs for again not being able to read the room. Though I personally couldn't care less for this anyways :D this is just hilarious for me xD

    It has a good opportunity to create an outrage almost as strong as Safer Seas did hahaha

  • The worst thing is there probably will be another menu screen to click through ...

    And posts from people who defeat the Shrouded using different pirates on their account 🤣.

  • Any time limited cosmetics will never be able to exist on an alt pirate. The only cosmetics an alt pirate can have are cosmetics that are currently available. This MASSIVELY limits roleplay potential. If I want a male ghost curse and a female ghost curse, I have to unlock ghost curse twice. If I want to use my 7th anniversary moustache on both characters, too bad.

  • @burnbacon The only way a second pirate makes this better is if they have access to all the cosmetics we have already unlocked. If they don't have them, there is NO roleplay potential. There are over 1000 items that are time limited that no one can ever get again. I would genuinely play a second pirate if they had access to all our unlocks. I would probably buy appearance potions for them to make them have different looks without needing to change my main pirate in the IPG.

  • @cainbong How is private servers an answer to this? That is entirely unrelated to having a second profile.

  • Instead of a second profile they should simply allow you to buy and store additional pirates so you can switch between them. The second profile doesn't make a lot of sense, especially if you don't share progress.

  • @lleorb said in Pirate Profile:

    @lem0n-curry

    Regarding using an alt-account instead; for that you'probably have to redo your friends list, add them to a guild &c.

    This isn't that hard to do,

    Can the list of friends be copied that easily ? Doesn't it need a confirmation from the other person ?

    and in fact many people wouldn't even bother doing it, many people just create alt accounts to repeat activities, they don't need to be in the same guilds as their friends, or have a full friends list.

    So if I would be sailing solo on my alt-account, people on my primary account's friends list wouldn't know if I was online and possibly join me (you know, people who don't use discord and such to show people they're on line).
    People might not be aware or forget that Lem0nCurry and AltCurry are the same &c.

    I assume that you'll be having the same name and your second pirate would be in the same guild(s), freeing up space in (or no need to kick others out of) the guild.

  • @privacyconcerns said in Pirate Profile:

    Instead of a second profile they should simply allow you to buy and store additional pirates so you can switch between them. The second profile doesn't make a lot of sense, especially if you don't share progress.

    There are people who try to do things like setting a record for getting Pirate Legend in the least amount of time and such; currently you either have to reset your pirate (and lose all the progress) or have an alt-account which then won't be linked to your actual account. "You know AltAccount 4567789 that holds the record for getting PL on a solo Galleon - that's me ...". (not actually true)

  • Well, why not both then? Allow us to store additional pirates AND have additional profiles.

  • I would absolutely love to roll a new pirate without losing my old one, but theres no chance in HELL that im re-doing ALL the work i've done up until now. There needs to be an option to keep your progress or this is a feature i just wont ever be using, because honestly why would i? Im not redoing all the tall tales 5x again to get the gold curse, it took long enough the last time. Not to mention time limited items..

  • If they're able to carry over plunder/emporium cosmetics between profiles... why not just carry all cosmetics over? Or why not give players the option between carrying everything over, or just the real-money items?

  • I agree with you, starting everything from scratch is discouraging, in my opinion this seems to be a strategy by rare to keep players in the game longer “we don't want to create new content, we want everyone to do the same thing again”. If sot really have the secondary character in this way, I'll steer clear of buying it. It doesn't make sense to me to start from scratch again.

  • @rafaxf7429 said in Pirate Profile:

    @lem0n-curry said in Pirate Profile:

    if you want to start from scratch again, just go to the option and delete the character, there's nothing to stop you from doing that and there's no need to create another account.

    If someone did that, they'll lose the non-emporium cosmetics; not sure if people who like to try their hand on a speedrun want to get rid off all that.

  • @lem0n-curry

    Can the list of friends be copied that easily ? Doesn't it need a confirmation from the other person ?

    You just need to add the people you intend to play with, more specifically the ones you intend to play with while using that account... I don't know your specific case but in mine it doesn't make sense to add dozens of people when most of them don't play SOT or I haven't even spoken to them for a long time, the ones I would play with are on my discord or I can easily communicate through Xbox chat, so unless your friends are unreachable you can add them and it will hardly take more than 20 minutes to do so.

    So if I would be sailing solo on my alt-account, people on my primary account's friends list wouldn't know if I was online and possibly join me (you know, people who don't use discord and such to show people they're on line).
    People might not be aware or forget that Lem0nCurry and AltCurry are the same &c.

    Will you be waiting for people to see you're online and then inviting you to play? I mean, just tell them, "I'm playing on another account, add me..."

  • @lleorb said in Pirate Profile:

    @lem0n-curry

    Can the list of friends be copied that easily ? Doesn't it need a confirmation from the other person ?

    You just need to add the people you intend to play with, more specifically the ones you intend to play with while using that account... I don't know your specific case but in mine it doesn't make sense to add dozens of people when most of them don't play SOT or I haven't even spoken to them for a long time, the ones I would play with are on my discord or I can easily communicate through Xbox chat, so unless your friends are unreachable you can add them and it will hardly take more than 20 minutes to do so.

    Depending on the cost, If I had to choose between spending some ancient coins (150 ?) and 20 minutes of re-sending out friend request, I'll pay the coins. My time is worth to me more than $/€/£ 1.50 😃. If it would be a tenner, it'd be a different story though. I expect them to be reasonable in pricing ...

    All of the 40+ friends on my list I've played SoT with, some go back to the Hungering Deep and Arena and others are in the Guild or on Discord. Indeed most of them I' haven't been in contact for ages, but would prefer it they could join me without any hassle of an alt account.

    So if I would be sailing solo on my alt-account, people on my primary account's friends list wouldn't know if I was online and possibly join me (you know, people who don't use discord and such to show people they're on line).
    People might not be aware or forget that Lem0nCurry and AltCurry are the same &c.

    Will you be waiting for people to see you're online and then inviting you to play? I mean, just tell them, "I'm playing on another account, add me..."

    That's not what I intended, I'll be playing, they might be interested in playing and could join me, even without discord or remembering that I am both Lemon and Alt Curry, or that they message me (which I tend to miss until after my session ... I know that's on me 😁),

  • @lem0n-curry Well, even assuming that it is absolutely difficult to adapt to an alt account with the benefits of the main one, the main point of the topic is to give players the option to choose whether they want to start from 0 or keep their progress, I think this would please the community and in my opinion Rare would profit more, for the things I mentioned in another answer.

  • @lleorb said in Pirate Profile:

    @lem0n-curry Well, even assuming that it is absolutely difficult to adapt to an alt account with the benefits of the main one, the main point of the topic is to give players the option to choose whether they want to start from 0 or keep their progress, I think this would please the community and in my opinion Rare would profit more, for the things I mentioned in another answer.

    I was triggered by the "If someone wants to start from the beginning, just create an alt account, " bit - see my first post 😃 - though you do mention keeping levels/cosmetics &c as an option.

    Don't have something against that per se, other than people having made the wrong choice and want to have their newly Pirate get gold/cosmetics/commendations &c transferred after the fact (which may cause issues if their 2nd pirate also has levels &c gained).

    Makes me wonder, would every pirate in your profile get a separate Lucky Voyage each update and other one-time perks ?

  • I like this. Now I can have a nightmare mode pirate without shelling out $$$. I HOPE that Rare will allow this to be one of the settings. Or better yet adopt this concept:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INify5wWiO4

  • I've had a few friends who've switched pirates, but I feel like its an odd mix?
    Like you have two camps:

    1. People who wants to look different from time to time but keep the progress
    2. People that want to try old commendations but look the same.

    Though, I dont see why you would want to reset your character? If you want to an old commendation, just... do it again? I dont see the appeal.

    I would much rather just be able to have outfit or weapon loadouts saved and ready.

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