open crew : why the captain can not decide to ban nasty members

  • chapaleufu
    Sailor

    hi,

    I've been experiencing the open crew opotion and i got lovely sessions but i also got very bad experiences with some people that only perspective is to screw up (excuse my french). some examples : leaving the outpost alone, hiding the storage box, use a keg in the boat and prevent fixing the boat, drop anchor near another boat and help to sink and even more stupidities.

    why the captain as sole master on board, can not decide to ban and/or send to jail team mates with suspicious behaviour or proved bad behavior. when we are 2 mates on a boat, there is nothing that can be done, and this is definitly not fair, it totaly ruins the session !

    it would prevent those bad behaviour because they know that they immediatly can be banned !

    it's a pity to have such a nice option (open crew) polluted because of those narrow minded people we cannot eject !

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  • Guildar9194
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    @chapaleufu

    1. Because all crew members are equal. The captain is not superior. He's not the 'Sole master'.
    2. Because it could be abused.
      Imagine you are playing Open Crew. You spend an hour or two hours stacking loot. The Captain wants to turn it in. Lots of money for you, right?
      NOPE! The Captain kicks you & invites one of his buddies. Now that buddy gets all the gold you helped gather and you get nothing.
  • Magus104
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    Being able to kick someone off your ship would create a negative experience for that player... Yet having a toxic random player on your ship creating a bad experience for upto 3 other people is okay... Rare is weird. The concept is based off the idea that the majority of players will be playing open crew. Curious what the actual data shows. I imagine more people play solo sloop because open crew is awful and most of us no longer have friends who are interested in this game.

    I get that being able to kick a crew mate would allow for people to boot randoms to bring in a friend to get free rep and gold..... But honestly who cares? Open crew should be deleted in the first place. But you could make it so in order to kick a bad actor they need to be in the brig for 30 minutes. That's 30 minutes of having to wait around just to bring in a friend who likely got bored and went to do something else instead. While I know people would abuse this I can't picture it happening because it seems so pointless to me. If that's all someone wants to do in SoT is login to get the payday and logout...How long would it take for them to get bored? 30 million people have already quit playing this game. The revolving door of players is huge. That's why we keep expanding platforms because the well keeps running dry in all the other potential player pools. Anticipating a Switch2 announcement

  • BurnBacon
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    i got lovely sessions but i also got very bad experiences

    So you gotten both good and bad. Yet still want more power over who joins your crew?

    Do the cons out weight the pros?

  • Metal Ravage
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    Yes this question returns in the forums everytime crew members don't get along and the answer is always the same as mentioned before: it can be abused.

    The first answer gave you a good example and I will add one. Imagine you answer an LFG that requires a Merrick's recipe to be part of. You join, put down the voyage and as soon as the voyage is voted you get kicked out by the captain; so he can invite his friend.

    That hardly seems fair doesn't it?!

  • Europa4033
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    Pick your crew wisely. Open crew is always a risk.

  • chapaleufu
    Sailor

    i have to admit you got a point : the game has to prevent captain's abuses, i haven't thought about that probably because i'm a too nice guy :))

  • CaptDirtyOar
    Ship Mate

    @magus104 said in open crew : why the captain can not decide to ban nasty members:

    I get that being able to kick a crew mate would allow for people to boot randoms to bring in a friend to get free rep and gold..... But honestly who cares?

    The one being kicked would care, what if the player who got kicked helped gather lots of loot over an hour or two and is then booted to make room for the other players friend before hand in. Then the player then gets nothing for his time and effort.

    It's a tricky thing to sort out. It's sort of like joining a open squad in CoD or Battlefield, but in SoT's case the losing of Gold or what not affects you more seeing that's what everyone is playing to get... In other games it's normally nothing to lose from being booted from a squad.

    I personally don't bother with open crew, I prefer to play with regulars in Discord etc, playing with randoms is annoying. Hard to get on the same page most the time with what needs to be done.

  • Ultimate Powa
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    @magus104 said in open crew : why the captain can not decide to ban nasty members:

    Being able to kick someone off your ship would create a negative experience for that player... Yet having a toxic random player on your ship creating a bad experience for upto 3 other people is okay... Rare is weird.

    That's why the brig exists.

    I believe the Captain of a ship, meaning they own the ship and Set Sail, then that Captain should have the sole power to brig other players. If it doesn't exist already.

    Toxic player stops being toxic, crew operate in peace, and prevents Open Crew players from getting griefed by being kicked, as they still get loot in the brig.

  • CaptDirtyOar
    Ship Mate

    @ultimate-powa said in open crew : why the captain can not decide to ban nasty members:

    That's why the brig exists.

    Not sure if it's possible still, my regular crew mates put me in the brig as a joke and I sunk the boat while they were on the island by using firebombs.

    The Brig is a useless idea, having one less member manning your boat and having more chance of them being more agressive when they get let out, kegging the ship etc.

  • chapaleufu
    Sailor

    @captdirtyoar said in open crew : why the captain can not decide to ban nasty members:

    I personally don't bother with open crew, I prefer to play with regulars in Discord etc, playing with randoms is annoying. Hard to get on the same page most the time with what needs to be done.

    i think it's the right option : dropping the open crew and finding mates through discord. I tried it twice sofar and it was quite positive :)

  • Coopers Rum
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    @guildar9194 пишет в open crew : why the captain can not decide to ban nasty members:

    @chapaleufu

    1. Because all crew members are equal. The captain is not superior. He's not the 'Sole master'.
    2. Because it could be abused.
      Imagine you are playing Open Crew. You spend an hour or two hours stacking loot. The Captain wants to turn it in. Lots of money for you, right?
      NOPE! The Captain kicks you & invites one of his buddies. Now that buddy gets all the gold you helped gather and you get nothing.

    Better that than being locked with a ruiner on board.

  • chapaleufu
    Sailor

    you can stop trying convincing me :)) i'm now definitly convinced, no more open crew, search for mates through discord !

    thanks to all of you for your inputs about.

    i hope meeting you soon in the sea of thieves :))

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