Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix

  • Fox GR
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    Ok, this is my second thread about the situation, but nothing changed. To be fair, as everyone knows, the 02.05.25 hotfix lowered the Grade V required parts from 50 to 20, and this is should be a good thing if only the parts were obtainable.

    But this is not the case. I’m killing every emergent megalodon since the last season 15 update, the kill count should be around 10-12, and I received just 2 teeth and 1 scale. But the two teeth were dropped by krakens, not a meg.

    Every guildmate got the same problem in their sessions. Countless megs killed, nearly zero pristine parts given. And I’m reading various topics here about this.

    Rare, you created these commendations to be on par with the boar ones, but they should be similar to ancient meg commendations in the bilge rats tab. by the way, right now the ancient meg pristine parts are way much easier to find than the regular meg ones, because all you need is to reach grade 5, easily done catching 12 treasured fishes, and fight a meg that continuously spawns on map.

    Now, I know that in every thread about this the same users come to complain about “completionists that are playing the game in the wrong way”, but this is not about completionism: the drop rate is simply broken. As long as I decide to fight an emergent meg, pristine parts should be at least guaranteed. At least. Because if you defeat an ashen lord, you are sure to get his skull, if you defeat emergent skeleton ships, you are sure to get skeleton captain chest and barnacled ones, so why this should be different?

    These new parts can’t be a chance of a chance encounter: if we decide to fight the meg, we should be rewarded. I’ve got over 6000 hours in this game and I’ve already completed every commendation about megs and got every trinket related. You want me to fight them again? Ok, but make me sure that I’ll be properly rewarded.

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  • Aheras5916
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    Totally agree and share the frustration. My feedback to RARE is to start thinking and testing their own commendations before the release.

  • WolfManbush
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    I have 10 teeth and 19 scales and I just play solo and adventure around for organic spawns.

    Sometimes the rng criticisms are fair but I dunno why people are in a rush with these for some random comms.

    Makes megs relevant for people that otherwise ignore them.

    I've heard different people in different areas going on and on about this but I really don't get how it's an issue.

    I don't think it has anything to do with completionist stuff, I think it's more that people just wanna rush it for a screenshot that really doesn't mean much in SoT anymore. Specifically because of the rushing and cheesing that happens so much. This stuff is supposed to have more longevity than just a season or a few weeks of play.

  • Lleorb
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    @wolfmanbush There is indeed a large distortion in relation to the spawn rate of these items.

    I don't know how you managed this feat but in my experience, since I started counting I have killed 20 or more emerging megalodons and only received 1 single pristine tooth.

    To make the problem clearer, it's easier to acquire pristine boar tusks than megalodon teeth and scales from killing megalodons... today I got more items belonging to redmaw from an emergent meg than the normal meg itens.

    No one is saying it needs to be fast, they could drop an item for every Meg and keeping the 50/50 items, it would already be infinitely better even if it continues to be difficult, but the current situation doesn't make any sense, I sold 5 scales and 5 pristine Meg teeth and most of them weren't for killing the Megs.

    Edit: The distortion is even greater when we notice that these are not even valuable items, their value is only for those who want to complete these commendations, if they want to make an item so rare it should at least be worth around 7k gold + emissary bonus

  • WolfManbush
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    @lleorb said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @wolfmanbush There is indeed a large distortion in relation to the spawn rate of these items.

    I don't know how you managed this feat but in my experience, since I started counting I have killed 20 or more emerging megalodons and only received 1 single pristine tooth.

    To make the problem clearer, it's easier to acquire pristine boar tusks than megalodon teeth and scales from killing megalodons... today I got more items belonging to redmaw from an emergent meg than the normal meg itens.

    No one is saying it needs to be fast, they could drop an item for every Meg and keeping the 50/50 items, it would already be infinitely better even if it continues to be difficult, but the current situation doesn't make any sense, I sold 5 scales and 5 pristine Meg teeth and most of them weren't for killing the Megs.

    If this were a situation like season 12 with the horns I'd be all in on the change. They had a 250 requirement, terrible rng and they made it even worse after a patch.

    This is 20 and y'all already have some of it done. This is just not in any way an issue in design, imo.

  • Fox GR
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    @wolfmanbush

    If this were a situation like season 12 with the horns I'd be all in on the change. They had a 250 requirement, terrible rng and they made it even worse after a patch.

    This is 20 and y'all already have some of it done. This is just not in any way an issue in design, imo.

    I think that the horns were much better. I completed the 250 horns before the rebalance. As other said, the problem is not 20 or 50, but that I expect to find at least 2 parts When I kill a meg. 20, 50 or even 100 should not be a problem if the drop is guaranteed.

    I don’t know if this could be a server issue, but there, central europe, A LOT of people are complaining about this.

  • WolfManbush
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    @fox-gr said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @wolfmanbush

    If this were a situation like season 12 with the horns I'd be all in on the change. They had a 250 requirement, terrible rng and they made it even worse after a patch.

    This is 20 and y'all already have some of it done. This is just not in any way an issue in design, imo.

    I think that the horns were much better. I completed the 250 horns before the rebalance. As other said, the problem is not 20 or 50, but that I expect to find at least 2 parts When I kill a meg. 20, 50 or even 100 should not be a problem if the drop is guaranteed.

    I don’t know if this could be a server issue, but there, central europe, A LOT of people are complaining about this.

    Because Rare has been giving in to the "I want it right now" crowd for quite some time now.

    A few years ago there would have been very little noise about a 20 commendation that took time to get done. It was about the long game and as long as there was a way, people would work towards it. Like the original hunter's call commendations.

    People want the 15 ashen athenas, they want the giant piles of loot for 20 minutes of time, they want the good loot dropped every time, they want the rare stuff to not be rare anymore.

    In risk/reward it was on Rare to say no pretty regularly to maintain balance and significance with treasure.

    They gave in too much, drove out the people that value significance, and now they get more complaints when they try to make something, mean something. That's why.

    Nothing is wrong with having some comms that take time, so the loot has significance for a while.

    Right now those pristine parts have more significance than a box of secrets. That's how much significance they have removed from the game.

    Next season is a reaper season, most people are gonna need stuff to work on that is more in line with how they play the game while that goes on.

  • Fox GR
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    @WolfManbush mate, our problem here is not that the pieces are not given often, I’m saying that me and my friends got O N E teeth with 15 megs killed. Not as crewmates.

  • WolfManbush
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    @fox-gr said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @WolfManbush mate, our problem here is not that the pieces are not given often, I’m saying that me and my friends got O N E teeth with 15 megs killed.

    I've sold 1 tooth and today and I got 2 scales off one meg just since I started posting in this thread.

    This stuff is just for a title and not even appealing titles.

    The rng really isn't that bad.

    People used to take 2+ years to complete the OG hunter's call comms, and there was no issue because it gave people something to look forward to and loot actually kept some significance longer than a week.

    The point is to make megs relevant to more people, that doesn't happen if they just flood the reward like everything else.

  • Fox GR
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    @wolfmanbush ha detto in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @fox-gr said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @WolfManbush
    I've sold 1 tooth and today and I got 2 scales off one meg just since I started posting in this thread.

    The rng really isn't that bad

    ok, please invite me next time you sell something 😅

  • Lleorb
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    @wolfmanbush

    Nothing is wrong with having some comms that take time, so the loot has significance for a while.

    Nobody said there can't be time-consuming commendations, we have several examples in the game that take a long time and nobody complains, the problems here are first of all, the inconsistency in the spawn rate of an item that shouldn't be inconsistent in this way, as I pointed out, what's the logic in getting megalodon teeth and scales being harder to get by killing the megs themselves than with krakens or boar treasures?

    And secondly, the item itself does not correspond to this level of rarity, it does not unlock any skins and is not worth money proportional to the difficulty in finding them.

    You mentioned the Horn of Fair Winds commendation but that one was infinitely easier to make and its rarity was justifiable, it's an item that can be used in PVP and also unlocks a candle. Even the one for selling 1000 king's items is more constant and predictable than these meg teeth.

  • WolfManbush
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    @fox-gr said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @wolfmanbush ha detto in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @fox-gr said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @WolfManbush
    I've sold 1 tooth and today and I got 2 scales off one meg just since I started posting in this thread.

    The rng really isn't that bad

    ok, please invite me next time you sell something 😅

    A meg just spawns during play. I dunno why people are acting like this is some mind numbing fomo grind like some of the content is.

    Someone can mostly do whatever they enjoy doing and then pop a meg when there is a meg. That's exactly why the OG hunter's comms were the best. It was all passive reward while doing whatever a person enjoyed doing.

    These comms in no way interfere with enjoying the game. Pvpers get more meg opportunity than me and I have hunted megs for 6 years. They are regularly encountering other people's spawns

    Coordinators can just meg farm on a spiked server like they have done for years.

    People that farm pve all day will get megs like any other day.

    This doesn't interfere with anything. Just something to work towards.

    This was all predictable, people pushed and pushed for a hunter's call season and then very few wanna actually hunt. It's all rush farming outta this community.

  • Lleorb
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    @wolfmanbush

    Someone can mostly do whatever they enjoy doing and then pop a meg when there is a meg. That's exactly why the OG hunter's comms were the best. It was all passive reward while doing whatever a person enjoyed doing.

    Once again, the problem is that these items don't appear in megs, it's easier to find megalodon teeth in krakens and boar treasures... you're defending a highly inconsistent award that depends almost entirely on luck and that doesn't correspond to the difficulty of completing it.

    There is everything wrong with these commendations, beyond the delay in completing them.

    And to say more, it sounds really bad to me that some people on this forum are saying that players shouldn't complete these objectives quickly as if this way was the "wrong way" to play, I mean, can't I have fun playing this way? Is it illegitimate to want to focus on these objectives instead of achieving them passively?

    The complaint made is not even about making it easy but adding predictability, removing the aspect of luck and inconstancy in something that does not correspond in any way to the rarity imposed on this objective.

  • WolfManbush
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    @lleorb said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @wolfmanbush

    Someone can mostly do whatever they enjoy doing and then pop a meg when there is a meg. That's exactly why the OG hunter's comms were the best. It was all passive reward while doing whatever a person enjoyed doing.

    Once again, the problem is that these items don't appear in megs, it's easier to find megalodon teeth in krakens and boar treasures... you're defending a highly inconsistent award that depends almost entirely on luck and that doesn't correspond to the difficulty of completing it.

    There is everything wrong with these commendations, beyond the delay in completing them.

    And to say more, it sounds really bad to me that some people on this forum are saying that players shouldn't complete these objectives quickly as if this way was the "wrong way" to play, I mean, can't I have fun playing this way? Is it illegitimate to want to focus on these objectives instead of achieving them passively?

    The complaint made is not even about making it easy but adding predictability, removing the aspect of luck and inconstancy in something that does not correspond in any way to the rarity imposed on this objective.

    You know where to get them.

    You know how to get them.

    That is predictability in a hunt. Some want it done now and some don't wanna put in the effort to get it done but this is a hunt, a predictable hunt, a fair hunt, a reasonable hunt.

    Every time they give in to cheesing out stuff in this game it takes away from people that want a hunt, that want a challenge, that want significance, that want rarity, that want the sense of accomplishment.

    Very little in this game means much of anything anymore which is why people leave loot in the water and Rare has to get more and more extreme with their events. It's adventure, it should have significance, especially in hunting.

  • Fox GR
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    @wolfmanbush ha detto in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @lleorb said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @wolfmanbush

    Someone can mostly do whatever they enjoy doing and then pop a meg when there is a meg. That's exactly why the OG hunter's comms were the best. It was all passive reward while doing whatever a person enjoyed doing.

    Once again, the problem is that these items don't appear in megs, it's easier to find megalodon teeth in krakens and boar treasures... you're defending a highly inconsistent award that depends almost entirely on luck and that doesn't correspond to the difficulty of completing it.

    There is everything wrong with these commendations, beyond the delay in completing them.

    And to say more, it sounds really bad to me that some people on this forum are saying that players shouldn't complete these objectives quickly as if this way was the "wrong way" to play, I mean, can't I have fun playing this way? Is it illegitimate to want to focus on these objectives instead of achieving them passively?

    The complaint made is not even about making it easy but adding predictability, removing the aspect of luck and inconstancy in something that does not correspond in any way to the rarity imposed on this objective.

    You know where to get them.

    You know how to get them.

    That is predictability in a hunt. Some want it done now and some don't wanna put in the effort to get it done but this is a hunt, a predictable hunt, a fair hunt, a reasonable hunt.

    Every time they give in to cheesing out stuff in this game it takes away from people that want a hunt, that want a challenge, that want significance, that want rarity, that want the sense of accomplishment.

    Very little in this game means much of anything anymore which is why people leave loot in the water and Rare has to get more and more extreme with their events. It's adventure, it should have significance, especially in hunting.

    Ok, but… in two weeks of meg hunting with several meg hunted me and all my friends got ONE SINGLE PIECES. TWO WEEKS, playing every day, ONE SI NGLE PIECE.

  • WolfManbush
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    @fox-gr said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    Every time they give in to cheesing out stuff in this game it takes away from people that want a hunt, that want a challenge, that want significance, that want rarity, that want the sense of accomplishment.

    Very little in this game means much of anything anymore which is why people leave loot in the water and Rare has to get more and more extreme with their events. It's adventure, it should have significance, especially in hunting.

    Ok, but… in two weeks of meg hunting with several meg hunted me and all my friends got ONE SINGLE PIECES. TWO WEEKS, playing every day, ONE SI NGLE PIECE.

    and because of that it means something to you

    and megs/krakens are relevant to your sessions

    and it will be exciting if you steal one or find one somewhere

    and you only need 20 so you are already on your way

  • iTz Majman
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    Only way to get them in a decent pace is to find a random burrow with only 3 or 4 items showing. Means you can dig there for bonus items, these items will be a scale or a tooth. Barnacle, Fire or Pristine one.

  • Europa4033
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    @Fox-GR and @WolfManbush

    Are you both sure you're talking about the same thing here? There are 2 different kinds of pristine meg teeth and scales.

    One set comes from Ancient megs (Bilge rats, Wild Seas tab), the other is listed in the Hunters Call achievement list.

    Ancient megs has a commendation to kill 10 of each, but with the drop rate, I had to kill approx. 20 of each in order to complete that achievement. I'm completely done with the ancient megs.

    In the Hunter's Call tab, there's Master Hunter of the Pristine Maw (sell pristine meg teeth), where I only have 4/5, currently grade 2, and Master Hunter of Pristine Meg Spoils, (pristine meg scales), I'm at 7/10 currently grade 3.

    Just hoping you both are on the same page here, as "pristine meg teeth/scales" could mean one or the other here lol.

  • Fox GR
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    @europa4033 yes, we are.

    Ancient megs pristine parts are super easy to find

  • Lleorb
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    @wolfmanbush

    That is predictability in a hunt. Some want it done now and some don't wanna put in the effort to get it done but this is a hunt, a predictable hunt, a fair hunt, a reasonable hunt.

    What kind of predictability is this? What kind of hunter goes hunting for wild boars to find shark teeth? This is the current scenario, hunting emerging megs is a lottery.

    and because of that it means something to you

    and megs/krakens are relevant to your sessions

    and it will be exciting if you steal one or find one somewhere

    and you only need 20 so you are already on your way

    Krakens should be special because they have their own loot, for example a kraken eye, having to hunt them for loot that belongs to another animal is pointless... There are situations where rarity/difficulty stops making something special and makes it simply boring.

  • Europa4033
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    Not going to lie, the only thing I'm concerned about is when I'm finally done with these, they'll lower the requirements and/or make these more common. For now, if I happen to find myself near an island, I'll go over and look, but not expect much.

  • Fox GR
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    Days after, every emergent meg killed still haven’t dropped a single pristine part. this is beyond ridiculous.

  • Metal Ravage
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    @fox-gr Killed 6 emergent megs today and got 1 pristine boar tusk and a barnacle meg scale. The drop rate is non existent for normal megs.

  • HiradC
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    I wonder if krakens are the intended method but since they changed it back to old spawn we don't see them. Not that I had personally seen any from them but I had seen people report it

  • Fox GR
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    @hiradc ha detto in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    I wonder if krakens are the intended method but since they changed it back to old spawn we don't see them. Not that I had personally seen any from them but I had seen people report it

    Every single player I know has the same issue. Absolutely NO pristine parts drops from emergent meg.

  • HiradC
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    @fox-gr did you read my comment? Because your response doesn't really relate

  • Fox GR
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    @hiradc ha detto in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    @fox-gr did you read my comment? Because your response doesn't really relate

    Sorry, I was working!

    AFAIK, the intended method to get pristine parts is killing emergent meg. Currently i got 3 pristine parts: 2 teeth and 1 scale: all of them obtained after killing a kraken. But after the hotfix, I never found a kraken again…

  • MolnarAmy00
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    Your best chance is going to be finding wallows and hope that they are not empty and also have atleast 1 spot to dig.. I've killed several emergent megs and the drop rate felt better last week, I got a few scales and teeth as well, but then it went back to zero pieces again. I think the fact that you can get ancient megalodon loot from non-ancient megalodons doesn't really make sense, so my guess is that maybe they messed up the loot pool for them.

  • Fox GR
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    Just killed a shadowmaw. Guess what? Nothing.

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    The sell pristine megalodon Teeth to the Hunters Call isn’t tracking…. alt text

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  • HeadyGlassCo
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    Like is that not what the commendation is asking for??? Mine is still at 0/1

  • Europa4033
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    @headyglassco said in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    Like is that not what the commendation is asking for??? Mine is still at 0/1

    There's 2 types. One is a pristine tooth or scale from the redmaw/barnacle meg. These drop from the named megs (or found at emergent boar wallows) The other is a plain pristine tooth/scale, which I've only found at boar wallows so far. It's been a while since I've been krakened, so I don't know.

    As long as the tooth or scale isn't from any named meg (for example, in your image, it says it's a pristine tooth from Redmaw), you're good. The achievement is to turn in 20 each.

  • Venomous Sloth7
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    Yeah the pristine scales and teeth are non existent. I have been actively hunting for them and have 1 scale and thats it. Im done with all my boar stuff and have yet to find a wallow with a empty spot. It would be nice if Rare would at minimum say if its meant to be this ridiculous or if something is wrong. Communication is key after all. Yet im fully aware it could be another if we ignore it then it doesnt exist thing

  • Fox GR
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    @venomous-sloth7 ha detto in Pristine Meg Parts still unobtainable after weeks and a hotfix:

    Yeah the pristine scales and teeth are non existent. I have been actively hunting for them and have 1 scale and thats it. Im done with all my boar stuff and have yet to find a wallow with a empty spot. It would be nice if Rare would at minimum say if its meant to be this ridiculous or if something is wrong. Communication is key after all. Yet im fully aware it could be another if we ignore it then it doesnt exist thing

    I’ve opened 3 thread about this, and sent a mail. I hope that other player will follow

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