Pirate Hideout Suggestions

Yeah it is a good idea. Almost all objections to it can be overcome without having to do any critical thinking. This has been requested a lot. Maybe one day we'll get it.

@lordqulex I think the diving system would work well to get from and to a pirate hideout, but something like a portal would be good

pirate hideout would be beneficial for the Sea of Thieves,

So a Ship?

A great way to spend money on customizing in a similar way to captaincy

Like the ship...

allow players to have all of their pets hang out as they please

Encouraging people to purchase more pets just for the sole reason to have them run around at your safe haven. Im sure Rare will jump on this now ^-^

A vault room to display your pirates accumulated wealth

Watch it increase, decrease, disappear, reappear, As you Spend or Earn. Who are we even showing this off too?

A great place to allow armor display

mmmmm...No, I dont think pirates care

This area would be a good opportunity to swap ship sizes to allow for a bigger crew

So as long it takes you out of the current Server and places you in a new one.

get self portrait with or without crew

"Picture" all the very nsfw images being made.

Being able to display a few select ships on the dock

We gone from a Hideout to a Fortress.

Hideout’s would be optimal to allow for players to customize their ship or outfit without getting killed by pirate’s, on multiple occasions I’ve been attacked while I’m customizing at an outpost after spawning in.

Very rare thing to happen but nothing to shake a fist at.

great Idea, love it.

I love how it is catching - at least some - wind.

I remember when I suggested this Idea 2 years ago, noone seemed interested too much. The only answers where the kind of burnbacon xd

Would still love my own hideout, or my own little island even

@oomfrikkie1967 I like the idea of it being a guild hideout, but I don’t think implementing a selling point at hideout’s is a great idea because it would open up to many options of selling. I feel like selling should be risky not something that’s “safe”. In my opinion it would be best implemented as a space that is best used before a session starts while getting the crew together, planning or plotting the adventure, or supplying the ship.

I can see this being utilized most effectively as a guild hideout rather than a personal one. There is already a 24 man cap on guild size so resources and spaces for individuals to decorate and flex their cosmetics don't have to be on a ludicrous scale. Having a place to hang your hat was a welcome concept in Black Flag, if poorly executed behind the only customization being adding the ten optional things with ever larger piles of coin.

To address concerns that cropped up in the thread:
-A ship isn't a hideout because there is never a time you can let your hair down and just be at ease, hence the term hideout.
-Having more than two dozen places to put the MANY painting trophies and various mantle sized ones would be immensely rewarding and motivate people to not only buy them as they earn them but be able to show their achievements in their totality instead of a small curated selection.
-Seeing accumulated wealth is part of the pirate vibe. Opening a vault door and seeing a mountain of jewels, coins, and chests overflowing with your quantified success is FAR more gratifying than just seeing the numbers in the corner of the screen get bigger. Why gather over twenty million gold? To see the pile maxed out and feel like Black Sam friggin Bellamy, that's why.
-Armor displays. Yeah, we do want that, we always want that. It just sits in storage otherwise.
-Ship size swapping would either have to require a swapped server OR an alert that there isn't room for the size of ship you want to swap to on your current server.
-Portraits. Nothing stops people from taking emote screenshots in questionable situations now. Do so at your own risk has always been the warning for putting non-family friendly content into the ether.
-If your guild has many ships maybe they GET a fortress, why not? you would need the space anyway.
-Doing customization work without risk of getting ganked. true that its rare and you have nothing to lose anyway so whatever when it does happen. BUT if these hideouts were not ON a server but separate from the high seas servers it would actually free up a lot of slots on high seas servers that are being taken up by people why aren't going to play but sit on the outpost for an hour picking out shoes and sails. You can shop on safer seas but i get it for captained ship customization and whatnot.
-Why? Because the risk of getting blasted to hell and back means there's no place to just congregate and be a bunch of goons together. There is no place to display your many MANY trophies or rare cosmetics you just don't wear anymore. Because there's more to being a pirate than being constantly on the grind or being the target of someone on their grind. If you want to be at your hideout, you're not hurting anyone. If you want to fancy it up, you have to venture out eventually. If you want to have the option to attack/sink the people who only want to drink and dance and have tavern brawls then you're just a spoilsport who hates other people's harmless fun.
-Selling point at the hideout. BAD IDEA. Sellable loot should never be able to be brought into this outside instance much like diving. It shouldn't be an escape the pursuer tool, but a harmless base of operations for your chosen assembly of sea dogs and degenerates.

@rotten-rocko i never suggested having the option of selling at the hideout. In my opinion it would be best used as a form of gathering place to plot out adventures, gather supplies, and to customize using gold

@lordqulex Why is a good question.
I can only speak for myself. I have plenty of reasons.

• it is fun to have my own little space to start from and to return to when I am done. The taverns are so non-personal, and the ship is always "on the voyage". I miss some tiny place that I can call "home".
• It would be a nice incentive for me to grind gold as some kind of late game possibility.
• It could be a nice place for me to hang out before or after a session. You know, chat in skype, TS, or DIscord, while also hanging out on the beach or the cave, drinking, goofing around. Ofc I can do this now also, but on the island the mobs are an annoyance for chatting, on the sea or the tavern other players are annoying. So rather then stick in the game for chatting, I logg off right now. But at the same time: The game is very aestetically pleasing. I love sitting in the sand while chatting with my brother or sister.
• As a Guild feature, or a feature to conveniently change ship or customization, this would be a QoL upgrade.
• it would kinda close the circle that has been started with Captaincy, and continued with guilds.
  Thats my reasons. Well, some of them. So, is a hideout necessary? Well, no. But would it be fun? Yeah.

@lordqulex hideouts would serve as a good starting off point for the start of an adventure, especially when waiting for one or more crew members. Also it would be great as an incentive to grind gold to customize and upgrade for late game player’s who have nothing else to spend it on.

@equasi I could be wrong but i remember rare a while back mentioning the custom pictures from screenshots taken in game. This is something I'd love to see. the pictures being taken in game would turn into ship trinkets, and nobody needs to worry about anything inappropriate since its just going to be able to take pics in game.

@ghutar
When you say real purpose you might be thinking a bit too narrow minded.

Displaying achievements is a real purpose. having something late game to dump your accumulated wealth into is a real motivation. having a staging area separate from the play servers so people are always active and not just waiting around at an outpost for everyone to log in is beneficial to the state of play for everyone. Having a place to just RP and hang out that isn't under CONSTANT threat from attack is a largely desired feature.

Just because the concept doesn't serve the gameplay loop of "loot, sell, repeat" doesn't mean it shouldn't have a place in this game. Decorating ships doesn't serve the loop, pets don't serve the loop, music playing and emotes don't serve the loop, but people like them and utilize them anyway. Denying a thing that could be as big a late game draw as becoming a murder hobo only makes the case that murder hobos don't want anything that doesn't apply to being a murder hobo to recieve any attention or resources. There is more potential in this game than just the basic gameplay loop and if there IS some featire you don't like you can just not use it.

Player retention is important and SoT's biggest problem right now. If there was more of a motivation to earn trophies and cosmetics than footnotes in my vanity chest you BET I'd be sticking around to do as much as possible. That kind of motivation would have me throwing myself into the fire like nothing before.

@ghutar
perhaps by adding that i am firmly in the camp that sees this best executed as a guild resource rather than a current crew location might shift your perspective a tad?
in this way, entire groups and communities can share their achievements with each other and create a space that reflects not only personal but collaborative clout.

Specifying that something added should enhance the main adventure for all players on a server isnt necessarily wrong, but the server in question could be a guild server in this instance instead of the open world.

all this to say we could agree to disagree, or we could BOTH be right.

I think that this idea might work better as a guild hideout.

Coolest idea I’ve heard of

@lordqulex i think it could serve as both a guild and personal hideout, with the option because not everybody has a guild to play with. This could help for all types of players for example some people mainly play solo while others have a crew to sail with. Assuming that everyone has a guild to play with may be a bit presumptuous, especially with new players who just started.

@equasi
I am a guild of 1. :) Easy enough to accomplish solo.

It's slow ranking. I only have GR23 or so.

@equasi said in Pirate Hideout Suggestions:

@lordqulex i think it could serve as both a guild and personal hideout, with the option because not everybody has a guild to play with. This could help for all types of players for example some people mainly play solo while others have a crew to sail with. Assuming that everyone has a guild to play with may be a bit presumptuous, especially with new players who just started.

I think the issue with 'personal' hideouts is that it doesn't really make much of an impact on the game. New missions add variety to sailing the seas. New weapons change the gameplay, the PVP meta, etc. New World events and competitive voyages add in new things, and interactions with other players. Personal pirate hideouts....don't do that. Which is the weakest part.

The personal hideout doesn't push the gameplay in anyway. It does give another money sink. But that's really about it. Though, tbh another money sink isn't really that big of a priority, because there is no real economy in the game that is hurt by too much money.

The guild hideout as suggested in my thread to build on it, is designed to push guilds and advance the guild system, and promote guild social.

@lordqulex in my opinion the prerequisite should be a certain amount of gold to purchase said “hideout” not locking it behind having a guild or being in one