Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.

  • Mind that it's not your ship on fire, it needs to be your character on fire. What kind of way of play, path or pirate role would I choose to unlock this "naturally" without trying to do it exclusively? I think that or this is a very bad joke, joking with people that are "completionists" and would like to, eventually, unlock all the trophies, or something designed by people who have no idea of how the game works and barely play it. The same goes for 100 hours in a storm. I have close to 4.5k hours in the game, I'm playing it since April 2018, completed all the commendations (aside the Shrouded ones) and I can assure you that, never in your lifetime you'd complete 100 hours in the storm unless you are intentionally doing it. This is a disgrace and a slap in the face to people who would like to unlock all the trophies.

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  • @capt-steals
    That's what I was thinking as well 2k hours here, and I'd be surprised if I have spend more than 2h of all my previous playtime being on fire in the game.
    But ig I will never know because all previous progress doesn't count towards milestones lol (thanks rare for this ingenious design choice).

    Anyways have fun unlocking stuff like this "casually" by the time the game servers will shut down in 10 years time...

  • Yep. Welcome to my life.

  • Is it minutes that your player is spent on fire or minutes that the ship is spent on fire?

    If it's the ship then just make a ship called MOTHER IN LAW, set she ablaze, and run around for 100 hours asking for help to keep your ship afloat.

  • Guys act like your never gonna get these…
    As if the game is gonna shut down before you reach it.

    Maybe try for something more up your alley? Easier

  • @burnbacon It's over... I'll never get them... I have moved onto Wii Sports!

  • @musicmee said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @burnbacon It's over... I'll never get them... I have moved onto Wii Sports!

    Ring Fit Adventure! That game will MURDER you.

  • @burnbacon I don’t think many people ever are going to get these. And those that do won’t be commended, they’ll be made fun of. There’s literally one for sleeping in a bed for 100 hours. That’s 100 hours of doing nothing. What’s next, spend 100 hours in the brig? Spend 100 hours in the tutorial? They’re unreasonable. 100 hours is a long time to do these things.

  • @danbeardluff I have it... it's gathering dust in the cupboard after it nearly murdered me the first time HAHAHA. No joke either.

  • @musicmee
    Ha! Those are to difficult for me :p
    Rather Donkey Kong country, that be easy.

  • @musicmee said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @burnbacon It's over... I'll never get them... I have moved onto Wii Sports!

    So the mods are just going to start making fun of people who have legitimate complaints? The forum is literally on fire with people complaining about Milestones and Captaincy and this is what the people in charge of the community have to say?

  • @qwistae Making fun? Not at all... Wii Sports is my go to for wind down time... Especially bowling with friends across the pond!

    Also hey wave

  • @burnbacon said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @musicmee
    Ha! Those are to difficult for me :p
    Rather Donkey Kong country, that be easy.

    [Mod edit] How is sleeping or sitting for 4 real live days of your life in sea of thieves a commendable achievement for you? How's that something that requires skill or dedication to you? I can leave my pc running for 4 days straight too, is that something that should be rewarded, I don't think so.

  • @t3dpooi

    Don’t do it then? What’s the problem?

    So many folk on here are like

    “ boo hooooo I can’t get it, but I’m a completion chaser and have everything already, I need this it’s not fair”

    Errrrr have you seen the shrouded ghost five times?

    “ no I don’t have that one, that one doesn’t count “. Lol.

  • @pabio-escobar said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @t3dpooi

    Don’t do it then? What’s the problem?

    So many folk on here are like

    “ boo hooooo I can’t get it, but I’m a completion chaser and have everything already, I need this it’s not fair”

    Errrrr have you seen the shrouded ghost five times?

    “ no I don’t have that one, that one doesn’t count “. Lol.

    Another one the with terrible "dont do it then" arguement. If you're going to go at people for giving valid points as of why milestones are realy bad, then bring a better arguement next time.
    The whole patch introduces new ship costumisation locked behind unrealistic grinds and you're okay with that?

    People want to do them, the whole patch is revolved around captaining a ship & decking out your captains room & its locked behind thousands of hours of grinding.
    Other commandations back in the day you could atleast get by backseating & taking you're time.

    You can't seriously tell me you're okay that staring at a black screen for 100 hours, or being on fire for 100 hours, or catching 2500 specific fish is going to fun & not tedious or rediculous to grind at all?
    All rare ever does is slap a massive number behind something and calls it a day, instead of be creative with unlocking a reward.

    So get outa here with you're “ boo hooooo I can’t get it, but I’m a completion chaser and have everything already, I need this it’s not fair” And stop supporting this lazy unfun & tedious game design.
    not everyone wants to be completionists, people want to set out what this patch is supposed to give them in a realistic way of unlocking them & not thousands of hours of grinding.

    Nobody is saying they just want them handed over, that would be boring. Make the grind realistic.

  • Spent most of the day in the Devils Roar... I'm feeling a little crispy, if not a bit traumatised :)

  • @cpt-sockmonster said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @pabio-escobar said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @t3dpooi

    Don’t do it then? What’s the problem?

    So many folk on here are like

    “ boo hooooo I can’t get it, but I’m a completion chaser and have everything already, I need this it’s not fair”

    Errrrr have you seen the shrouded ghost five times?

    “ no I don’t have that one, that one doesn’t count “. Lol.

    Another one the with terrible "dont do it then" arguement. If you're going to go at people for giving valid points as of why milestones are realy bad, then bring a better arguement next time.
    The whole patch introduces new ship costumisation locked behind unrealistic grinds and you're okay with that?

    People want to do them, the whole patch is revolved around captaining a ship & decking out your captains room & its locked behind thousands of hours of grinding.
    Other commandations back in the day you could atleast get by backseating & taking you're time.

    You can't seriously tell me you're okay that staring at a black screen for 100 hours, or being on fire for 100 hours, or catching 2500 specific fish is going to fun & not tedious or rediculous to grind at all?
    All rare ever does is slap a massive number behind something and calls it a day, instead of be creative with unlocking a reward.

    So get outa here with you're “ boo hooooo I can’t get it, but I’m a completion chaser and have everything already, I need this it’s not fair” And stop supporting this lazy unfun & tedious game design.
    not everyone wants to be completionists, people want to set out what this patch is supposed to give them in a realistic way of unlocking them & not thousands of hours of grinding.

    Nobody is saying they just want them handed over, that would be boring. Make the grind realistic.

    Totally agree with you! The funny thing is that lot of people like grinding, me either, but the problem here are not the 1000 hrs to do... Watching my character on fire for hrs, leaving my pc turn on with a black screen for hrs,.... that's not what satisfy me. Those who support this kind of game design are developers of the game or they just don't know how to enjoy/have fun with it for sure! So for them its cool to watch a black screen for hrs and act like they are expert player of the game because at the end they are not able to do nothing more

  • @musicmee said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @qwistae Making fun? Not at all... Wii Sports is my go to for wind down time... Especially bowling with friends across the pond!

    Also hey wave

    Everybody have noticed your sarcasm and it wasn't nice at all! Lot of people are complaining about the new patch, like always, but at least they do it for a reason. I still don't see yours. If you have that much free time to write useless comment into a post where people are giving their impression (during their free time) trying to improve the game, well just go burn yourself on SoT or watch a black screen for hours and have fun, but please don't bother us acting like your are super cool pirate because I'm pretty sure, with all that black and afk time spent, you still need to find the anchor of your ship and set sail for the first time!

  • 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.

    Do I smell

    storm is shocking

    A pun?

  • @qwistae said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @musicmee said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @burnbacon It's over... I'll never get them... I have moved onto Wii Sports!

    So the mods are just going to start making fun of people who have legitimate complaints? The forum is literally on fire with people complaining about Milestones and Captaincy and this is what the people in charge of the community have to say?

    Unfortunately, this is what you get when you open an inside program of the game to everybody. You get lot of people that act like if they are cool, but at the end they don't test/try and leave comment of the bugs of the game. Conclusion: game still always bugged and forum community worst toxic ever

  • @ziobasi Huh? Now that's not fair is it... the Forum and the Insider section especially are a very welcoming bunch of people!

    We just try keep it a bit light hearted at times sorry you feel like that might be toxic :(

  • @musicmee said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @ziobasi Huh? Now that's not fair is it... the Forum and the Insider section especially are a very welcoming bunch of people!

    We just try keep it a bit light hearted at times sorry you feel like that might be toxic :(

    I'm sorry but I totally disagree with you. I've been Insider for a long period and I've posted lot of constructive bugs reviews, and from my experience I've met so many people like you or that they actually don't really care to test the game. They just want to see what's new inside the game to be prepared when the real patch will be release. It shouldn't be a place open to everybody just because you are 18+, Rare should make a sensible selection if they really care about the game, otherwise how would they get good feedback?

  • @ziobasi People like me? I test every single build and leave feedback... You really are pushing some narrative here and have me all wrong I can tell you.

    Also, we have heard the feedback RE being open to all, that part I can tell you has been heard.
    But choosing the right mix of players is never going to be an easy task... It needs to be fair, balanced and constructive.

  • @musicmee said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @ziobasi People like me? I test every single build and leave feedback... You really are pushing some narrative here and have me all wrong I can tell you.

    [mod edit]

  • @ziobasi Awwww matey :( So sorry you feel that way I can promise you I am not arrogant but if you feel that way so be it. Sorry you do though, because if you met me in real life and/or at SoTFest you'd know it's just not me.

    Have a pleasant day though!

  • @cpt-sockmonster

    I don’t want to stare at a black screen for hours, nor do I want to fish like crazy, so I won’t do them, and I won’t get the trophies. Which is fine, because that’s not how I play, I don’t want my ship adorned with fish because i don’t fish in this game. The guy that does fish though, I imagine they will want it.
    So everyone’s ships will be different to reflect how they play. Just the way it should be. That’s why I said don’t do it.

    So many people getting on like little kids stamping their feet because they can’t or don’t want to get a trophy that they likely won’t display anyway, that also doesn’t represent the type of player they are. More trinkets and trophies than you have space for. You want them all? That’s pointless and completely takes away what the point of this update is meant to be

  • @pabio-escobar said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    @cpt-sockmonster > So many people getting on like little kids stamping their feet because they can’t or don’t want to get a trophy that they likely won’t display anyway, that also doesn’t represent the type of player they are. More trinkets and trophies than you have space for. You want them all? That’s pointless and completely takes away what the point of this update is meant to be

    You don't seem to get to point of this update either.
    I have yet to see you make a valid arguement as of why this is good game design to have a cosmetic piece slapped behind tedious & unfun 100 hour grinds.
    The sleeping and sitting ones are just examples people give of the many other rediculous grinds.

    All i have seen you say is "These kids are completionists that are stomping their feet! And they just want everything handed to them!".
    You clearly dont seem to get that people dont want everything handed to them, we all know its okay if obtaining something is challeging or time consuming.
    But it needs to be realistic & fun for either a grindy player, or someone that plays casual.

    The point of this update is to own a captains ship & finally decorate it to its fullest. We finally get more ship costumisation and the amounts of time it wil take is just to much.
    And for some reason you think its fun & okay to have 1 cosmetic trinket locked behind very unfun gameplay, and a very unrealistic number of time to get it.

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  • How about play for 3 hours a day, keep your bow on fire whilst your sailing about. Could have it done in a month or so. Doesn’t seem so unrealistic to me.

    Also, it will change your play style because you will be on fire the whole time. That’s the beauty of a sandbox, you can do what you like. Or, you can just carry on playing the same way you have always played and complain non stop in the forums that their is no PvP/ to much PvP, no arena , nothing new to do, dead servers.

  • There should possibly be negative as well as positive accomplishments.

    To me "being on fire" or indeed "sinking" is a negative, therefore should count against progression.
    They could turn so called achievements like this on their head, rather than adding to progression, they are a progression inhibitor.
    Therefore it is wise to limit such events, and "weight" them as such "against" your progression.

  • @pabio-escobar said in Awarding a trophy for being 100 hours on fire or 100 hours in a storm is shocking game design.:

    How about play for 3 hours a day, keep your bow on fire whilst your sailing about. Could have it done in a month or so. Doesn’t seem so unrealistic to me.

    You mean keep yourself on fire? Because that's what the milestone is about.

  • Hahahaha nice pun. Shocking! Jokes aside I completely agree. The milestones need to be way more reasonable and retroactive.

  • @musicmee Seeing a moderator taking the [Mod edit] out of such a serious point of discussion among the community while the devs are completely silent is not a good look.

  • Wow, look at Musicmee trying to be lighthearted and helpful whilst loads of people are being, as always, total jerks and claiming ‘toxicity’.
    Shut up. None of anything our Musicmee has said was toxic. The only toxic things I see hear are some of the responses to him.

    Look at the pot calling the kettle black.

  • @musicmee You’re literally the most kind and funniest mod in here, whether or not we agree on 100 hours on fire being fair, I can definitely thumbs up the fact that you’re nowhere near arrogant 🤣

    I got you to give me a Gold Hoarder impression on stream once, that’s all I needed to hear to seal ya in the good book!

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