Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot

@ottyman8687 Yeah, I just hate sore losers. I always fight regardless of how much loot I have and I believe that is the true spirit of the game and how it was intended to be played and it always saddens me to see people get so petty over pixels.

@cinnumann Because you ran to the red sea which as otty pointed out is an informal surrender. Meaning you forfeit the battle because you knew you wouldn't win. Which is also known as a loss.

@cinnumann No because I still recover the loot when people run to the red. I just think your idea of it instantly deleting the loot is petty and childish and should never be added. Also sounds like you probably don't belong in SoT if you can't handle pvp.

@cinnumann said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@cptnpotbeard
So you won by chasing them into red sea. No one gets anything. What is the problem then?

The problem is that now no one wins because one ship decided to be petty children. In any confrontation there should always be a winner and a loser.

@cinnumann No it's a shared world pirate game. Big difference. And clearly I'm the one playing the game to the fullest considering I actually exhibit the spirit of piracy when I play. So gin. Maybe go back to mine craft or roblox for some peaceful grinding since having to share your world with pvpers clearly isn't for you.

But if we could get a deckhand to lock this down before I say something I shouldn't that would be swell since this isn't going anywhere like every other post of people wanting to make red seaing easier.

@cptnpotbeard Just stop replying to him bro

Then the thread will be buried by everything else.

@ottyman8687 LOL enough with your logic and reason. I'm clearly an unruly pirate lol.

Maybe if someone sinks in the red sea, they should be migrated to a new server so they can stop worrying about their past loot and session?

@cinnumann Oh no, loot stays of course. Only the worries of the runner dissapears.

@cinnumann said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@cptnpotbeard said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@cinnumann No it's a shared world pirate game. Big difference. And clearly I'm the one playing the game to the fullest considering I actually exhibit the spirit of piracy when I play. So gin. Maybe go back to mine craft or roblox for some peaceful grinding since having to share your world with pvpers clearly isn't for you.

I don't see why you are go so personal with this. You don't know me or the way I play this game. SoT is open world PvPvE Pirate adventure game and I have always enjoyed it. I will go to other game when I grow bored of one. In SoT I enjoy PvP I enjoy PvE occasionally. All I wanted to say is to get people practice more the approach in piracy and maybe give up on endless chasing.

Ok I'm going to try and make some progress in this argument.

WE WANT A FIGHT.

That's it. That's literally it. The loot is borderline irrelevant and I only want it to raise my Emissary Grade or something.

Tell us to improve approach, etc. That isn't the issue. If I want your loot, I hide the ship swim over and tuck.

But we want a FIGHT. Not just an obliteration.

This is also why I believe things to encourage PvPers to get some valuable loot on board to fight.

A clash of two ships, each with loot fighting for it is what this game was supposed to be.

My "approach" is irrelevant. Because that doesn't get me a fight. That just makes it easier to roll up and sink an unsuspecting crew. And it's boring.

And it gets even worse when a ship with loot in board just turns tail and runs.

We want to ENCOURAGE not FORCE fighting back. And making RedSea running easier does the exact opposite.

@cinnumann said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@bloodybil
Loot should also insta disappear. There would be no point to red sea otherwise.

How about keeping people from leaving the map..?

@cinnumann said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@bloodybil
Loot should also insta disappear. There would be no point to red sea otherwise.

The goal appears to be to deny loot to the chasers, which is fine, do whatever you want with the loot you currently have on board. You have to be successful at it though, go far enough for them not to be able to get it then. Earn your deny.

Everyone needs a "chance" to retrieve loot.

@burnbacon said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

Everyone needs a "chance" to retrieve loot.

This. People don't get to destroy loot just because they are salty someone else will be getting it.
What next, an auto cash-in for your whole haul if you reach the dock of an outpost?

@cinnumann said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@bloodybil
You have all the chances in world to take the loot. Sink the ship and take. It is ridiculous to think you deserve the loot when you fail to sink someone.

Nobody deserves anything, you have all the chances it the world to hide it or to dump it if you get far enough of their reach in the red sea. You don't deserve to delete it. If people manage to retrieve it, they deserve it. You just ask to move the goal post further because you apparently failed to deny loot to a crew properly, and didn't get the satisfaction from it.
Someone didn't manage to catch up another crew? They don't deserve the loot.
Someone didn't manage to escape another crew? They don't deserve to choose what happens to the loot.

@bloodybil said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@burnbacon said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

Everyone needs a "chance" to retrieve loot.

This. People don't get to destroy loot just because they are salty someone else will be getting it.
What next, an auto cash-in for your whole haul if you reach the dock of an outpost?

This. I don't want it destroyed. I want it to be a pain in the aft getting it. I want to make you work for it without fighting. This is the way I fight. I want to tie you up fishing loot out of the red and drain your supplies.

@cinnumann said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@bloodybil
You have all the chances in world to take the loot. Sink the ship and take. It is ridiculous to think you deserve the loot when you fail to sink someone.

Why is it ridiculous?

You surrendered.

Here is Google's definition of surrender:

give up or hand over (a person, right, or possession), typically on compulsion or demand.

You admitted defeat which means the opposition wins automatically. It's not ridiculous that I expect to get your loot. It's how winning and losing works.

If you don't want me to have your loot, then you need to win. But currently you aren't doing that and you are surrendering. Which means I win automatically.

@pithyrumble said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@bloodybil said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

@burnbacon said in Red Sea should insta delete ships and loot:

Everyone needs a "chance" to retrieve loot.

This. People don't get to destroy loot just because they are salty someone else will be getting it.
What next, an auto cash-in for your whole haul if you reach the dock of an outpost?

This. I don't want it destroyed. I want it to be a pain in the aft getting it. I want to make you work for it without fighting. This is the way I fight. I want to tie you up fishing loot out of the red and drain your supplies.

And that's perfectly fair, people are free to be as persistent as they want, whether to chase people and fish up loot, or to run away and try to deny it to others. In both cases, they simply need to earn it and succeed. If someone wants loot removed from the game, either sell it or guard it until it sinks.

Ah yes... Because you flipped the monopoly board the opposite team should not win. Makes total sense LUL

Ahoy!

This topic seems to have fallen off track so I'm going to go ahead and lock it for now. In the future, please remember to be polite when holding conversations with one another, if you don't like a topic, it is okay to scroll past and not instigate.

Anyway, may the seas be in your favor.