I and everyone else need a straight pvp mode, it would help players get better and let people who enjoy pvp a chance to do just that.
The community would love a team death match mode.
I'm placing my bet now. We will eventually see another PvP faction, and with it a way to easily coordinate PvP with others. Whether that's a duel system or something entirely different, it just makes sense to me that if Rare is putting all effort into Adventure, that they'd need to cater more content to the PvP crowd. All the PvE content is amazing and makes it easier for ships to have something worth fighting for, but I just have a feeling that they've got some big PvP ideas cooking.
Arena failed the same reason the Devil's Roar failed.
They made something with potential and it wasn't an instant hit. So they left it in the corner to rot instead of trying to fix it.
If they made Arena 2 maybe they could fix the long wait times that ruined the last one and player numbers would shoot up.
I am not sure how much of the community really wants a PvP mode after how badly Arena flopped. I love pure PvP modes, its really the only place I like to PvP because I like fighting against people who I know 100 percent want to fight. With that said the lack luster PvP and the hit reg situation leaves much to be desired as far as PvP goes. I mean its fine for PvPvE but I do not think its strong enough for pure PvP. I know I do not like the PvP mechanics in this game all that much and I know many other PvP'ers like myself who are not impressed with it either. I just think at end of day not enough pure PvP types play this game. Now that is just my opinion, I could be wrong. I know there are PvP groups out there like NAL who really enjoy it but I do not think that group of people is enough for RARE to make a PvP mode for , it sure was not enough to continue on with Arena which I was sad to see go. I did play it now and then with friends and we always had a good time.
@ottyman8687 sagte in The community would love a team death match mode.:
Arena failed the same reason the Devil's Roar failed.
They made something with potential and it wasn't an instant hit. So they left it in the corner to rot instead of trying to fix it.
If they made Arena 2 maybe they could fix the long wait times that ruined the last one and player numbers would shoot up.
Didn't know the Devil's Roar failed...I play regularly there and often see crews there
Long waiting times ruined Arena? That was more like a devil's circle...long waiting times caused by few people playing arena, leads to less people playing arena...
@shrewd-swan said in The community would love a team death match mode.:
I and everyone else need a straight pvp mode, it would help players get better and let people who enjoy pvp a chance to do just that.
If everyone needed that, Arena wouldn't have had only 2% of play time ...
@shrewd-swan said in The community would love a team death match mode.:
I and everyone else need a straight pvp mode, it would help players get better and let people who enjoy pvp a chance to do just that.
Literally did you not see what happened to Arena? Nobody wants dedicated PvP modes, people would rather enhance the PvP experience already present in Adventure.
people focus on this 2% playtime measure like if its not a major percentage then it doesn't matter. I would love to see the percentage of playtime people spend actively in treasuries or shrines, I'd guess easily less than 2%. Give it a while and less than 2% of playtime will be spent on sea forts(then again maybe not given how purely overpowered they are). Considering xbox is most of the playerbase and from what I can ascertain from joining open crews 95% of playtime is spent crashing into islands no emissary or quest down or afk at an outpost.
From what I can gather arena shared the same world with adventure so with their upcoming adventure world changes(golden sands etc) would cause a lot of headache fixing bugs in arena. Adventure and Arena were linked so a change in one caused problems for the other. That's why it was removed. Take regular forts for example, I guarantee you less than 2% of playtime is spent on forts, but they don't generally cause any issues with anything else, so they aren't going to be removed. How often do you all play the pirates life tall tales?
If they ever made a more pvp focused mode again then they would need to learn from their mistakes with arena. Create it in a way that it will be very low maintenance. Maybe if people come up with popular ways to pvp in private servers they will consider a pvp mode in the distant future.
Personally I would love a tiny 1v1 ship battle mode that was invite only. No random lobbies waiting for hours. Maybe make it available to PL (at least not available to everyone on the title screen) only so new players aren't just tossed in the meatgrinder clicking on the wrong button. There has been many a salty player that wants a rematch, and quickly being able to do that would be fun.
@lem0n-curry Bad argument, its because how bad Rare treated it.
A reskin and a worse overhaul to the game mode cant hold a game for long, but Arena with attention and love would flourish.
Anyone who says that either dont try to understand the situation or just isnt informed.@faceyourdemon said in The community would love a team death match mode.:
@lem0n-curry Bad argument, its because how bad Rare treated it.
A reskin and a worse overhaul to the game mode cant hold a game for long, but Arena with attention and love would flourish.
Anyone who says that either dont try to understand the situation or just isnt informed.2% is probably closer to the players who would need a 100% PvP mode (whichever variant) than the 100%/everyone OP is claiming.
Can't blame it all on how Rare treated it though; more toxicity, players that play TDM while other in the same server don't thus diminishing the 5 ships in a naval battle idea that Arena was supposed to be, teaming for wins and commendations and the server hopping that came with this (and thus longer waits in the tavern).
IMO competitive play and no rules don't mix. NAL played amongst each other didn't they ? Why didn't a similar group dedicated to TDM show up and tried to get their own competitions going on ?
@ottyman8687 sagte in The community would love a team death match mode.:
Arena failed the same reason the Devil's Roar failed.
They made something with potential and it wasn't an instant hit. So they left it in the corner to rot instead of trying to fix it.
If they made Arena 2 maybe they could fix the long wait times that ruined the last one and player numbers would shoot up.
and it needs a list where u can see who killed the most players and died at least.first they need to fix the servers 150 ping its not 2002 .sometimes in arena it goes up to 300 ....
@lem0n-curry You would have seen way more then 2% if Rare would add updates and features to it, Adventure mode would mainly die aswell without these constant updates.
I can 100% solely blame Rare, toxicity drama is bs because in Arena you are always facing other players, in Adventure the vast majority is about sailing with your crew and PvE, even if your main aim is PvP still most of your exerience would be without player interaction.
By all means you can swear at the skellies, they wont mind but in Arena you face other players so its gonna happen. Plus, when you have every tool in the book to deal with toxicity, mute change server every round or change to another crew, and report if it goes too far.
The game is rated T for teens, not 8 years old toddlers, I also think that theyve muted the Arena because they wanted to kill it faster.I dont like TDM as well but it was only fealt towards the end of Arena, it didnt plagued the game for the majority of the Arena's life spam, when it was almost dead youve started to see it more frequent because the numbers were very low.
And who says that TDM didnt had Their own servers? just like alliance servers (which i hate just as much) were part of the game, just quieter then alliance servers.
@targasbr I would love to see people who like "rowboat races" go to another game.
See how unnecessarily intolerant that sounds?
@theblackbellamy disse em The community would love a team death match mode.:
@targasbr I would love to see people who like "rowboat races" go to another game.
See how unnecessarily intolerant that sounds?
Rowboat races do not interfere with others' play.
@shadeparade5082
Couldn't you argue that a Pirates Life world's go against the games "core concept" since these are entirely PvE.There was nothing wrong with having a PvP GAMEMODE (not server) it didn't go against the games concept or something, because things like APL already do that anyway and noone minds.
@shrewd-swan said in The community would love a team death match mode.:
I and everyone else need a straight pvp mode, it would help players get better and let people who enjoy pvp a chance to do just that.
Ahoy! You need more detail here, and I'm here to help. This would have to be diverse PvP, and yes this can work because many of my crews would like this. There could be a few modes and custom maps that they could implement. It would also take off because it can be faster than the arena and sailing the seas for PvP and a hot spot for tournaments, ESPECIALLY if they make a way to host a match (no rewards, of course) privately. The mode could have many elements per map like cannons, harpoons, kegs, doors, traps, and it could be very flexible for improvement. Again very fantastic idea.
@BurnBacon BUT this isn't arena and let's try to stay open-minded here ANYONE can shut down an idea like this. Arena failed because there were much more factors that could be confusing for players and many pirates were overlooked and lacked solid crews to play it. With a classic TDM mode or something like a Free For All, it's more likely to be played because it would be shorter, simpler, and way more fun with other crews. Again we're not here to bring things EVERYONE would like, we focus on the majority and creativity, so I disagree and I think this is completely different and my crews agree.
Rowboat races do not interfere with others' play.
Neither would what OP suggested but we both know that we're not going to get such a mode and this thread is pointless.
We've had this back and forth before and I know you have some weird history with TDMers, but most of them (albeit a small portion of the total playerbase) just want a space for mindless PvP.
Shame that you're not open minded about it.
Sooner they roll custom servers out to the public, the better. We get a place to TDM. You get a place for rowboats. None of it interferes with anyone else.
@theblackbellamy disse em The community would love a team death match mode.:
Rowboat races do not interfere with others' play.
Neither would what OP suggested but we both know that we're not going to get such a mode and this thread is pointless.
We've had this back and forth before and I know you have some weird history with TDMers, but most of them (albeit a small portion of the total playerbase) just want a space for mindless PvP.
Shame that you're not open minded about it.
Sooner they roll custom servers out to the public, the better. We get a place to TDM. You get a place for rowboats. None of it interferes with anyone else.
I don't care about TDM or rowboats, I just want to play the game the way it was designed to be played, preferably without having to spend 1 hour jumping from server to server to find a good PvP.
@targasbr Well with the casual direction the game is heading in, there's a reason it's taking an hour for you to find good fights. I wouldn't expect it to get any easier.
Golden days of Adventure PvP are long behind us.
@theblackbellamy disse em The community would love a team death match mode.:
@targasbr Well with the casual direction the game is heading in, there's a reason it's taking an hour for you to find good fights. I wouldn't expect it to get any easier.
Golden days of Adventure PvP are long behind us.
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