Using Keyboard & Controller to turn wheel twice as fast

@zestycrablegs
I wonder how many people learned of this exploit because of this thread.

@testakleze i just learned about it lol, shame i dont have a controller or a third hand.

I didn't know this existed either. Tried it, didn't notice much difference to be honest. It's not like your ship suddenly insta-turns, it still turns slowly.

@withmyapologies guess ships are capped at a max turn speed.

Maybe make a support ticket? Better chance of being seen by the right people.

If i recall correctly, a partner did bring this up, the animation itself is sped up as if you were in a storm when you turn on both, however, the actual boat's turning speed remain the same, it is purely visual.

@zestycrablegs You raise a decent point with the helmsman being able to step away quicker with the technique than without, but i wouldn't say it was a significant advantage offered, or even much of an advantage at all, especially on the Galleon, who's turning speed isn't its forte anyway.
When i get home, i'm tempted to test it out myself to see if turning speed itself is different, however, i'm pretty sure it is only the visual of the wheel turning that is actually faster. Perhaps it's something that is worth fixing on the downlow, but honestly, this is nowhere near a game breaking exploit that everyone is abusing by ANY means. This pales in comparison to something like x-bucketing or quick-DG swap.

@zestycrablegs That's really not the entire point i made, is it? And i'm not defending it, simply stating there are more important things to focus on.
No, i may not personally be paying out of pocket for the patches (unless you count the Emporium), however, the dev time dedicated to fixing this minor most likely visual bug is insignificant when there are more major things that could be worked on. Hence why i said, perhaps this could be fixed on the downlow, if necessary.
As i said, this doesn't offer a significant advantage that is going to dramatically turn the tides of a naval battle, nor is it impacting the meta in a negative light that requires action. I'm going to test it in my own time to see if it changes my stance, but this is something that doesn't need to be immediate priority, unlike how x-bucketing was, and that was around for weeks/months.

@zestycrablegs In what way?

@schwammlgott Don't quote me on this but AFAIK boat turning speed is actually fixed at a certain point, even in storms when it spins the wheel faster, the boat itself doesn't turn faster, it's just designed to be harder to turn it the other way. However, i am 100% willing to test it out and "science this" when i get the chance, and if i'm wrong, then i shall eat those words for my dinner tonight, and will report back.

@schwammlgott Chill, no need to be rude, i misinterpreted your original post is all, of course i understand, and thank you for clarifying.
If that is the speed at which you can reach the other turn relatively (still want to test myself), then yeah, i can see how that buys the helmsman a few extra seconds which could be spent running down to repair, or arm cannons, etc. In some close naval battles with high stakes, those few extra seconds can be a pretty worthy deciding factor.

But then again, this requires having an extra controller plugged in at all times, and in the heat of battle, having the speed and diligence to grab said controller to engage it with the keyboard. I would still argue that not many players even know about this technique, let alone employ it enough for it to be impacting the meta as a whole. 1 to 1 battles, i can see that it would be frustrating if the opposition were aware it happened, but with many other factors like Hitreg and other reg's, the chainshot miss bug, the occasional misaligned cannon shots, etc. those few extra seconds aren't the saving grace. Hence why i said there are more important things that could require the work. I never said and am not saying "Don't fix the fast turn" i'm saying "maybe focus on those other things, but fix the wheel bug too".
X-bucketing took weeks/months to be addressed and fixed, and that was rampant by the time it was, even being heralded as a skill gap. Who knows if fast turning will grow more common, but considering how it's employed, i just personally doubt it.

@schwammlgott It's all good my friend, i appreciate it.

You are right though, the idea of chatpads/extra inputs didn't occur to me, using that to streamline the speed turn is definitely a possibility that could lead to it becoming more popular, hopefully it doesn't become as widespread as some other exploits however

This is why the NAL required 1 input to be used by its participants.

Doesn't the wheel just 'unturn' itself after doing this?