Why is the storage crate so expensive?
I mean, for people like me who are limited in their playing time and never know in advance how long they will be able to play, the storage crate is very useful to really start playing as quickly as possible, you empty all the barrels from the outpost into it and leave.
But it's too expensive when you don't know if you will be able to make it profitable. And the crate is empty.
it's a pure convenience charge and although I'm against buying useful stuff in general the storage crate is the least of the issues
people can pay for convenience or grab like 5 storage crates in half an hour by actually playing the game, that works alright. An empty convenience crate for a price doesn't much negatively alter anything and it isn't necessary for people
that's really all they should have added instead of the paid supplies that drag out fights and lean towards less effort for wins
@wolfmanbush This is often what I do, I wait to find them on the islands or by sinking a skeleton ship. But the question was, why is it so expensive? Especially compared with the crates of cannonballs and planks, which, for their part, provide a real advantage.
@dewehr said in Storage crate:
@wolfmanbush This is often what I do, I wait to find them on the islands or by sinking a skeleton ship. But the question was, why is it so expensive? Especially compared with the crates of cannonballs and planks, which, for their part, provide a real advantage.
because crates are more convenience than advantage
supplies themselves are an advantage disguised as convenience
can't have advantages only available to those with lots of gold otherwise it makes it even worse
@wolfmanbush it doesn't make sense to me. You can't have advantages only available for those with lots of gold but you can with the convenience?
@danbeardluff said in Storage crate:
@wolfmanbush Shouldn't the convenience be cheaper than the advantage?
No
It's a shared environment where one side has very little and the other has amounts beyond anything they will ever need not only in currency but also skill for a shared environment with pvp
The point of the game is equal footing without advantages that can be bought. Supplies for pay go against that. Making supplies more expensive makes it worse
Nobody needs a storage crate. It's pure convenience. If someone can't afford one or doesn't want to buy one it doesn't matter. They have easy ways to obtain them for free.
@wolfmanbush Storage is really all I buy, and it's not much of a hit when you've got millions. I just find it odd that it's priced so much higher than the rest.
@wolfmanbush What you say doesn't make sense.
The exact same can be said for cannonballs and crates of planks: those, who cannot or do not want to spend on them, can find them for free.
And I don't want to make cannonballs or plank crates more expensive, I ask why the storage crate is more expensive than these two
@dewehr said in Storage crate:
@wolfmanbush What you say doesn't make sense.
The exact same can be said for cannonballs and crates of planks: those, who cannot or do not want to spend on them, can find them for free.
And I don't want to make cannonballs or plank crates more expensive, I ask why the storage crate is more expensive than these two
an arbitrarily chosen number to get rid of gold
the cheaper it is the less effective it is at getting rid of gold
@dewehr
Because crates are meant to be a gold sink (although a poorly implemented one here).
On one end if they come for cheap they won't do their intended job, on the other if they're priced higher you would get an imbalance between rich and poor pirates.
The storage crate doesn't offer any real advantage, thus it can be priced relatively high because no-one will make a fuss about their opponents having a storage crate while they had none.
The canonballs and planks crates however are definitely an advantage. It allows hoppers to be aggressive sooner (especially the plank crates). Having this at a higher price would give to some another argument against that feature (imbalance).
You have to look at it from the Dev's point of view : how high can we price those crates to allow some gold to sink while also not give too much occasion for our player base to be grumpy.
@grog-minto said in Storage crate:
You have to look at it from the Dev's point of view : how high can we price those crates to allow some gold to sink while also not give too much occasion for our player base to be grumpy.
is it still 17,500?
might be a little psychological marketing in that number as well
"it's cheaper than 20k and barely above 15k" type of thing 17.5 would be a pretty typical tactic to push product
@wolfmanbush @grog-minto It's sad. For me this is something very useful at the start of my session, something that could save me a lot of time but, as I explained, which is not profitable as it is.
So with that. If you don’t plan to play long, don’t worry about it. You will find a random one if you visit many islands, even the small ones.
Storage crate isn't only for conveniences.
Cannon ball crate - holds only 50 cannons
Storage crate can hold hundreds.
Wood crate - holds only 50 planks.
Storage crate can hold hundreds.
You can only put cannon balls into a cannonball crate but you can put a lot of different stuff into a storage crate.
Storage crate can be used to unload a whole entire island into 1 crate.
If you used a cannon ball crate you would have to make trips back to the ship.
The price is higher because it gives a SIGNIFICANT advantage over the other crates. Its not just convenience.
Prices should be higher in my opinion.
Also crates aren't mandatory neither are supplies. You'd be surprised how fast you get supplies just by shooting off to islands as you pass by. Manage your supplies better and you won't have any problems.
@schwammlgott said in Storage crate:
Imo buyable crates should've never been a thing
I wonder what the server load is for all these crates.
I sink people carrying around ridiculous amounts of crates when they attack me and it's not uncommon to see. Just from a server stress perspective it can't be great. They also float longer typically as well as the storage crates
@xultanis-dragon Did you really understand my "problem" before advising me to "manage your supplies better and you won't have any problems"?
I'm already doing what you advise me to do, so I wouldn't be "surprised at how quickly you get supplies just by flying to the islands as you pass."
Otherwise, yes I understand the benefits that the storage crate brings but it's very easy to find one so I couldn't understand why it was so expensive at the outpost. Where it would be really useful to me sometimes
@wolfmanbush sagte in Storage crate:
@schwammlgott said in Storage crate:
Imo buyable crates should've never been a thing
I wonder what the server load is for all these crates.
I sink people carrying around ridiculous amounts of crates when they attack me and it's not uncommon to see. Just from a server stress perspective it can't be great. They also float longer typically as well as the storage crates
What bothers me more is, when I'm going to sell everything at the end of the session, I often have 3 crates that are unsellable because I'm exactly at the outpost it has been bought 😡
Why is the price the issue if its so easy to find and you have no issues with managing your supplies??
Why complain about the price in the first place if you (A) understand the benefits it has and (B) understand that you can find them super easy and you know how to manage your supplies.
If it was cheaper would you buy it more often and complain less?? If the answer is yes then I restate what I said previously -
Learn to manage your supplies and storage crates are everywhere and you don't actually need one to start your session.
SIDE NOTE - Not to mention that price is SUPER cheap. I still say it should be higher. Like 50k per crate.
@xultanis-dragon said in Storage crate:
Why is the price the issue if its so easy to find and you have no issues with managing your supplies??
Why complain about the price in the first place if you (A) understand the benefits it has and (B) understand that you can find them super easy and you know how to manage your supplies.
If it was cheaper would you buy it more often and complain less?? If the answer is yes then I restate what I said previously -
Learn to manage your supplies and storage crates are everywhere and you don't actually need one to start your session.
SIDE NOTE - Not to mention that price is SUPER cheap. I still say it should be higher. Like 50k per crate.
Because A. They are a convenience not an advantage like the other supplies (as others here have described) B. It doesn't make sense to be more expensive because they are so easy to find.
Why not just make them all the same flat rate?
I'm not complaining, I was trying to understand why the storage crates were more expensive than the others since
A: they are easily found,
B: you can only take what is available, you have to fill them yourself, and rely on luck. Crates of cannonballs and planks give you straight away ... 50 Cannonballs and 50 planks.
C: It didn't make sense to me.
If they are so easy to find how about we just remove them entirely from purchase then?? If its just a convenience then we shouldn't even bother having it for sale am I right??
Reason (A) they are an advantage pure and simple. Because (B) They hold more than the regular crates.
Cannon ball crate - 50 cannons and only cannons.
Storage crate - hundreds of cannons with hundreds of food, with hundreds of lots of other things. = More expensive
So easy to find then why bother even buying it then??
I mean, for people like me who are limited in their playing time and never know in advance how long they will be able to play, the storage crate is very useful to really start playing as quickly as possible, you empty all the barrels from the outpost into it and leave.
But it's too expensive when you don't know if you will be able to make it profitable. And the crate is empty.
That is straight up complaining.
Storage crates are way better than just cannon ball crates. I can take a storage crate and clean out the outpost, I can clear out a fort, I can clear out anything. Then you would end up with a ton of food of different types and even pineapples. Cannon balls, cursed cannon balls, throwables, planks.
Cannon Crate and wood crate hold only 50 and hold only that specific item. Those are a convenience because all they do is save you 2mins. The same equivalent of what you get from those crates you can find on the outpost and just throw into a storage crate, then you can use that storage crate anywhere else and clean it out.
@dewehr a dit dans Storage crate :
I'm not complaining, I was trying to understand why the storage crates were more expensive than the others since
A: they are easily found,
B: you can only take what is available, you have to fill them yourself, and rely on luck. Crates of cannonballs and planks give you straight away ... 50 Cannonballs and 50 planks.
C: It didn't make sense to me.
@xultanis-dragon said in Storage crate:
If they are so easy to find how about we just remove them entirely from purchase then?? If its just a convenience then we shouldn't even bother having it for sale am I right??
All supplies are easy to find, yet they made them purchasable anyhow. It's a QOL thing.
So easy to find then why bother even buying it then??
Because it's a convenience.
I'm having a hard time figuring out why you're defending the high price of storage crates so vehemently lol. As Dewehr said, it's not as much of a complaint more like a 'Why?' and there really hasn't been a good answer given imo.
@danbeardluff said in Storage crate:
@xultanis-dragon said in Storage crate:
If they are so easy to find how about we just remove them entirely from purchase then?? If its just a convenience then we shouldn't even bother having it for sale am I right??
All supplies are easy to find, yet they made them purchasable anyhow. It's a QOL thing.
Its more of a rhetorical question. Economics 101 - spending money so you don't have to do things yourself
So easy to find then why bother even buying it then??
Because it's a convenience.
Which you spend money for also its an advantage. Like others have said it gets players, especially hoppers faster into the seas with a full set of supplies. Storage crate gets all the supplies from the island which entails good food and not just banana's, throwables, chains, cursed cannon balls.
Storage crate is a lot better than just cannon and wood crate
I'm having a hard time figuring out why you're defending the high price of storage crates so vehemently lol. As Dewehr said, it's not as much of a complaint more like a 'Why?' and there really hasn't been a good answer given imo.
I'm trying to figure out why you believe the price is too high when the storage crate is so much better than the other crates. Dewehr is complaining. That is a complaint.
I given reasons on why and even you have, you don't even bother buying the other crates. If the storage crate isn't as good as the other crates then why do you only buy the storage crate and not the other crates??
Storage is really all I buy
@dewehr in his OP stated a really good reason as well.
the storage crate is very useful to really start playing as quickly as possible, you empty all the barrels from the outpost into it and leave.
Almost as if the ability to unload any and every barrel into a single crate is some how useful or something, as if it so much better than a crate that only holds a specific 50 of something.
What gets me is how you can blatantly make stuff up openly "you haven't given any reasons" - Broski, OP has given reasons, you have given reasons, I have given reasons each time I posted.
Storage Crate is better than the other 3 crates hands down. Whats funny is you haven't given ANY actual reason why it should be cheaper. Its clearly better than the other 3 so why should it be cheaper??
@xultanis-dragon For me it should be cheaper because it doesn't make sense since it's so easy to find one for free, and at this price in the outpost it only makes this option profitable for people who are full of gold. Since people like me, who are not yet at the point of being able to spend gold without thinking about it, will prefer to wait to find one and they will waste time emptying the barrels by going back and forth to the ship.
The storage crate, as practical as it is, only saves you time. She doesn't give you directly what you need, you have to go get them yourself and, even if you say the opposite, you are not sure to find 50 cannonballs, 50 planks, pineapples, cursedballs etc ... It's based on your luck and you waste time filling it.
I understand what you say and I agree with you but it's so easy to find one why is it so expensive at the outpost, where it could really come in handy for people like me who don't have much time to play and would be very useful at the start of the session.
Of course when I have time, I take the minimum and I go, knowing that I will find everything I need on the road. But when I embark on a session of an hour, it would be very useful to me but not at this price since it is not sure that I have the time to make it profitable.
Edit: And again ... I'm not complaining. Can I talk about something I don't understand? Something that doesn't make sense to me. Without having to justify myself on the fact that I am complaining or not? I was really trying to find out why it was so expensive and I was explaining how, for me, it didn't make sense
@dewehr a dit dans Storage crate :
why is it so expensive at the outpost, where it could really come in handy for people like me who don't have much time to play and would be very useful at the start of the session.
Because it is meant to be a gold sink. It's meant to take gold out of the players wallet in order to prevent them to hoard millions too easily. Granted, it fails at it but that's not the point : it's not meant to make economical sense. It's meant to cost the max amount of money while still being purchased and with the least backlash possible.
Cannonball, Board and Fruit crates should not be sold, let alone full. Storage crates shouldn't be sold. It gives experienced players (aka gold to burn players) an unfair advantage over the new players.
@xultanis-dragon I said in my opinion a good reason hasn't been given as to why it's more expensive, just my 2 cents matey. I don't think it should be cheaper than the other supplies. I suggested just make everything one flat rate.
