Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons)

@baronbrr I think it should be a mix of commendations for Adventure. So maybe sink 500 ships, steal 1000 pieces of treasure, get 500 kills with a cutlass, 500 kills with pistol, 500 kills with blunderbuss, 500 kills with EoR, 250 kills with cannons all while being PL. Get all of those and you can get the Legendary Weapons.

@mferr11 seems a bit much but these are just suggestions, and i do agree with you.

@baronbrr said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

seems a bit much but these are just suggestions, and i do agree with you.

It is deliberately so, this is one of the rarer commendations there is, and actually takes a fair amount of effort to get. I wouldn't want to devalue it.

@mferr11 I understand not wanting to devalue any of the commendations, that is why I put in the Victorious Sea Dog stuff, the title, and other things as the reward for doing both commendations. As the theoretical new commendation takes place in adventure where it could be abused if done correctly, the full set of new rewards is intended specifically to those who have already done Legendary Sea Dog. As you have said, it is a rare commendation. The new rewards as such should be rare as fair compensation.

Victorious Sea Dog clothing set is an absolute must. This would be a good way to put that into the game without having to add new commendations to a deprecated gamemode.

@baronbrr said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

@mferr11 seems a bit much but these are just suggestions, and i do agree with you.

To be fair, to make something PvP only and not devalue it by adding it to the game mode that is not PvP only would have to be a very long or difficult commendation to grind, but at least it would be grindable eventually, because with the current state of arena, I have absolutely no desire to ever play it, meaning these commendations are permanently behind something unenjoyable and a forced minimum time with the amount of time it takes to start and complete a match and make sure you've won, would equate to that of an extremely high player/ship counter on Adventure. It needs to be this high, or higher, to not devalue the reward.

@mferr11 It shouldn’t be tied to kills, people will just farm it with a buddy or spawn camp noobs. I think it should just be unlocked from Athena’s Fortune commendations or given out as season rewards.

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@mferr11 said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

@baronbrr I think it should be a mix of commendations for Adventure. So maybe sink 500 ships, steal 1000 pieces of treasure, get 500 kills with a cutlass, 500 kills with pistol, 500 kills with blunderbuss, 500 kills with EoR, 250 kills with cannons all while being PL. Get all of those and you can get the Legendary Weapons.

Not a very good idea with alliance servers. Anything in Adventure is easily cheesable. It was a challenging achievement to get and it should stay challenging.

@capt-soul-beard they could specify that it must be done outside alliances

@capt-soul-beard said:

@mferr11 said:
I think it should be a mix of commendations for Adventure.

Not a very good idea with alliance servers. Anything in Adventure is easily cheesable.

Alliances cheese everything. So if we restrict what we add to the game around alliances, we'll have nothing.

That said, these sort of achievements can be cheesed in Adventure even outside of an alliance. Commendations for killing/sinking in Adventure is just going to result in an increase of fresh-spawns being targeted by the same wimps that farm AFK or noob crews in Arena nowadays.

The only way I see this working out is if the commendation rewards for killing and sinking a player just once. Which means you'd need to kill 2250 different people, sink 500 different ships, etc. This could remove the incentive to repeatedly camp/sink the same crew, and motivate people to move on to the next.

I get that people want to finish off their purple set with the weapons, and don't have the patience for how broken Arena is at the moment. That's understandable. But if Rare does add something like this, I think it'd be appropriate if the LSDs who unlocked it the old way were awarded some separate exclusive cosmetics.

@capt-soul-beard said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

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@mferr11 said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

@baronbrr I think it should be a mix of commendations for Adventure. So maybe sink 500 ships, steal 1000 pieces of treasure, get 500 kills with a cutlass, 500 kills with pistol, 500 kills with blunderbuss, 500 kills with EoR, 250 kills with cannons all while being PL. Get all of those and you can get the Legendary Weapons.

Not a very good idea with alliance servers.

Alliance servers ruin balance, therefor nothing should be balanced with them in mind.

@theblackbellamy the last paragraph talks about that players who have done both commendations get the exclusive victorious sea dog set.

You can earn some of the sea dog equipment in adventure by using the sea dog shovel to dig up treasure. I always found it odd that those were the only things you could earn in adventure.

@sirfandango this is in regards to the legendary weapons, which can only be earned in Arena. The sea dog equipment can be earned in both modes.

@baronbrr said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

@capt-soul-beard they could specify that it must be done outside alliances

Still could be cheesed in an Alliance server with no PvPers

@capt-soul-beard Everything can be cheesed with alliances, they're always the outlier in these situations

Another argument for the change using the devs words against the game is that if the focus is on adventure, other than the sea dogs all commendations can be focused on in adventure.

@mferr11 said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

Alliance servers ruin balance, therefor nothing should be balanced with them in mind.

Alliance servers can be dealt with if Rare really wanted to, reduce alliance limit to 2 ships and that would crack down on all alli servers

@capt-soul-beard even with 2 ships it would still be easy to cheese this kind of commendation.

@baronbrr said in Another commendation for earning the Legendary Weapons (not the ghost weapons):

@capt-soul-beard even with 2 ships it would still be easy to cheese this kind of commendation.

In arena cheesing will not be helpful with 2 ships if the other crews don't TDM.

Players keep asking for simplification because they don't want any kind of challenge which is annoying, and arena is so not dead (TDM may be but I don't do that) I've joined countless Arena sloop matches and they're actually always action pack probably 3/10 games are too easy with people with barely any skills but many times it's actually really close matches with good PvP players.

@capt-soul-beard i meant for the commendation suggestion in adventure