Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers

  • Goddess Empress
    Rogue

    Some players go into adventure mode and behave as if it is arena mode. They destroy ships just to destroy them. This does not correspond to the attitude of a pirate but to that of a psychopathic killer.

    In order to overcome this problem, I suggest to force players to take the Reaper's Bones to be able to PvP and to deactivate the basic Reaper's Mark flag.

    In my idea, a reaper crew can PvP against anyone, and a non-reaper crew can only PvP against reaper crews.
    This solution is not perfect but will slow down the "psychopathic killers" by forcing them to go to Reaper's Hideout and will facilitate the work of defending the other crews who will see them marked as PvP.

    This solution eliminates the need for private servers.
    It also helps maintain the PvPvE aspect.
    It is a simple means of balancing.

    If a players want fast action, they will have to go to arena, else they have to accept they have to go to reaper's hideout first.

    Remaining problem: theft of chests when the player cannot retaliate against the thief.
    Any ideas to suggest ?

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  • AribAlam
    Lord
    Insider

    So basically you want PvP to only be allowed when someone’s ship is shown on the map? This would completely ruin PvP.

    What if someone wants to grind up gold hoarders but doesn’t want to do the voyages. They won’t be able to grind the company in any style of PvP.

    This is the thread they made for discussing PvP and PvE(it’s locked now but you can read what people wrote)

    This is the podcast where they discussed PvP and PvE

    This is the article Joe Neate wrote on custom servers

    This is a thread on custom servers

    Someone else made a post like this just 20 minutes before you. Scroll back at least a little bit.

  • Scarecrow1771
    Marauder
    Insider

    @goddess-empress
    This is just a ham-fisted and ill considered version of a passive mode, it completely breaks the core principles of SOT and it only going to cause far more issues than it will solve.

    The developers have already said no to this kind of thing may times before, most recently in this podcast.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2uOdTVFiIQ

    Happy watching.

  • Schwammlgott
    Champion

    @goddess-empress PvEvP...that's not gonna change...ever...

  • Capt Soul Beard
    Commander
    Insider

    @goddess-empress said in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    Some players go into adventure mode and behave as if it is arena mode. They destroy ships just to destroy them. This does not correspond to the attitude of a pirate but to that of a psychopathic killer.

    That's a play style so you'll have to adapt to it.

  • Capt Soul Beard
    Commander
    Insider

    @goddess-empress Tbh if I can't PvP I will keep dropping an enemies anchor until they attack me to initiate PvP.

    Not a fix just a nuisance if ever made.

  • Capt Soul Beard
    Commander
    Insider

    @scarecrow1771 said in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    @goddess-empress
    This is just a ham-fisted and ill considered version of a passive mode, it completely breaks the core principles of SOT and it only going to cause far more issues than it will solve.

    The developers have already said no to this kind of thing may times before, most recently in this podcast.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2uOdTVFiIQ

    Happy watching.

    Episode 2 is a breath of fresh air for PvPers xD

  • Capt Soul Beard
    Commander
    Insider

    @goddess-empress said in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    Remaining problem: theft of chests when the player cannot retaliate against the thief.
    Any ideas to suggest ?

    Scuttle ship so you cannot retaliate anymore lol

  • WolfManbush
    Champion

    @goddess-empress said in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    Some players go into adventure mode and behave as if it is arena mode. They destroy ships just to destroy them. This does not correspond to the attitude of a pirate but to that of a psychopathic killer.

    A pirate is self serving. There are no universal codes for piracy we aren't knights.

    is killing for mermaid gems and marauder chests more noble than killing to kill?

    We are all awful out there no matter what code we use to justify what we do. We are voluntarily participating in a food chain and we all must feed.

  • KlutchxKay
    Legend
    Insider

    I hate these posts! 🙍‍♂️

  • Goddess Empress
    Rogue

    @aribalam a dit dans Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers :

    Someone else made a post like this just 20 minutes before you. Scroll back at least a little bit.

    I read a lot about private servers / lobby, but not a lot about other ideas. I don't think it's a duplicate.

    I'm looking for a way to limit some particular behaviors without blocking PvP like a private or 100% PvE server would.
    Why do you say it ruins PvP? It can be helpfull to have your answer.

    Sorry others, but your answers don't seem relevant for the topic.

    Scarecrow1771 repost a link send by AribAlam without additionnal argue.

    Schwammlgott it is just an useless answer after 2 people said it.

    Capt Soul Beard yes, that is a play style. Only a playstyle, nothing more. It is not compatible for people who want an immersive pirate univers.
    An aggressive ship quickly has a reputation, and it is identifiable (a type of ship, a name, specificities ...). It can be recognized and can be stalked.
    In the game, ships do not have a clear identification to link them to their reputation. They are changeable as easily as changing clothes. There are no threats that specifically target aggressive ships.
    You have no argument, you just deny a different view of the game. It's not for you to say that your view is the only one. At least the others rely on the fact that it's the developers' decision.
    All your other posts are also useless.

    WolfManbush it is a good argument. I'm not targeting pirates who loot but players who are just trying to harm others by abusing from the gameplay.

    KlutchxKing518 mine or answers from someone ? and why do you hate these posts ?

  • AribAlam
    Lord
    Insider

    @goddess-empress doing this would basically block PvP 100%.

    • No more sneaking up on crews
    • You have to company voyages or world events
    • You won’t be able to steal loot for other companies
  • Goddess Empress
    Rogue

    @aribalam I understand your point of view. I agree with that.

    I try to found a good idea to offer to dev as lot of my friends are not willing to PvP and are bored to be sink when they are searching smething on an island. It is sometimes boring to have no solution and just have long discuss about "the problem"

    On my own point of view, the only problem is that PvP has no consequences. For exemple, kill a player or be the one fo send the first ball on the other ship should add a "wanted" point and increase the risk of being chased by a Royal Navy vessel. This should be a lot fun, but probably hader to add in game.
    Sadely my "royal navy" idea will not fix problem in point of view of my friends.

  • Schwammlgott
    Champion

    @klutchxking518 sagte in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    I hate these posts! 🙍‍♂️

    This post deserves at least 100 upvotes

  • Greengrimz
    Marauder

    @schwammlgott said in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    @klutchxking518 sagte in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    I hate these posts! 🙍‍♂️

    This post deserves at least 100 upvotes

    Indeed.

    Yours does too, for that matter.

  • Schwammlgott
    Champion

    @goddess-empress it's not that senseless...at least less then your thread...I just stopped writing blocks of text, instead I keep it short, there is almost every day a thread like yours...I will get insane, if I'd argue every time

  • Greengrimz
    Marauder

    @schwammlgott said in Fixe toxic PvP : use Reaper's Bones to maintain PvPvE in public servers:

    @goddess-empress it's not that senseless...at least less then your thread...I just stopped writing blocks of text, instead I keep it short, there is almost every day a thread like yours...I will get insane, if I'd argue every time

    Hahah, same here, ROFL!

  • Goddess Empress
    Rogue

    @schwammlgott and @greengrimz are you crying ?

    You dont want to get insane ?

    • You do not have to answer
    • If you want to answer but don't want to write a lot, use a proper copy past message like @AribAlam1
    • Don't loose your time to answer when sone else have already answer better than you, or just say you agree with him (or her).

    Sorry to you guys, you look really sick when it comes to PvP, even when someone try to be creative with the suggestions.
    I personally think you should avoid reading these messages and not responding to them.

  • daniccc
    Castaway
    Founder

    Funny :D
    This Game will die someday because of PVP. From my Clan 29/30 People dont want to play anymore because of the toxic PVP. (PVP is okay but not like it is in SOT, you just do your Mission and avoid PVP but if someone chase you 2 Hours to get you something gets wrong in this Game. I mean has he nothing better to do? :D)

  • Legendary Liz
    Vanguard
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    Deckhand

    @goddess-empress Ahoy! Please read the links @aribalam posted below yours as this highlights Rare's stance on PvPvE

    Cheers!

    Dropping Anchor

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