Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.

I agree with you, but also think @D3ADST1CK is probably right.

Assuming the items can come off of exclusivity, they should be made available again at cost in the emporium (buy each piece individually) or as part of the plunder pass as a set. The issue I think is the timing; it could be months or longer until any sort of exclusivity clause no longer applies, but later is better than never.

There are a few days I missed in some streams, usually the first day since Rare is really bad about letting people know in any other forum but twitter. I would happily pay money to complete these sets.

@shadow20642
Or, find another streamer. I'm sure there is one out there who isn't talking nonsense 100% of the time.

Just mute and minimise and continue about your regular gaming.
If you are looking for someone to check out and maybe watch, just cycle through the various SOT partners, there are all sorts of different people.

My problem with Twitch drops is that the items they reward seemingly never return, if you miss a day, you're screwed. I'll probably never complete the ancestral set because of this, forgot to watch a random stream one day.

@shadow20642 said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

Id rather play the game and not miss out. Surely there should be a way to earn these cosmetics too? So, why not incorporate it in P pass?

Forget twitch.
Be more pirate! Not, be more spectator watching a pirate!

I think you're missing the point. The whole reason for the Twitch drops is to grow the community, increase the interactions across the community, creating some exposure and popularity for the game and get a little reward for being part of that.

Twitch is a popular media platform, just like YouTube it is a way for brands to get their content some exposure. It is in SoT best interests to be involved in that medium. It's essentially free advertising, other people are advertising your product for you and interacting with the fans for you.

When streams are popular on Twitch it makes them more discoverable to other Twitch users, which might in turn bring in new players to the game who saw a stream on Twitch and want to play the game which benefits SoT.

@comrade-molly said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

Your whole post is a bunch of dumb streamer stereotypes and you calling their whole job dumb, but then you say "Not hating on streamers btw but thats basically what you are forced to do."

Sounds like you're the immature one who can't deal with the fact that drops are a creator-centered promotional thing. Either go without, or just pop open a muted twitch tab for 30 minutes. There's streamers of all types, all ages, and all skill levels in the SoT directory, surely you can find someone who's playstyle you like, or who hosts discussion of something you like. I can only think of one SoT partner who even vapes on stream, and he's a married man with a kid, and a pretty deep knowledge of the game.

But no, you just have a smoothbrain boomer take of "i hate content creators because it's NoT a ReAl JoB!".

Never once said it wasnt a real job or was hating on them at all. Everything you have said is incorrect.

You say im immature yet you are the one who jumps the gun and assunes stuff i never even said then proceed to refer to me as a boomer?

I suggest you think before you speak and that you remain respectful. Thank you.

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@shadow20642
Or, find another streamer. I'm sure there is one out there who isn't talking nonsense 100% of the time.

Not a Partner who does drops. For some reason zoomers love mindless jabbering.

I normally click the first one with drops, mute, minimize and set an alarm on my phone for 20 minutes, then I collect and close.

Streamers are cringe

Name one "zoomer" in the partner program. I'll wait.

Dumb posts from people who have no idea what they're talking about are cringe.

For the record i do know why twitch exists. Im just sharing my opinion on it. It isnt a dumb post at all.

@j3nkman said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

@shadow20642 said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

Id rather play the game and not miss out. Surely there should be a way to earn these cosmetics too? So, why not incorporate it in P pass?

Forget twitch.
Be more pirate! Not, be more spectator watching a pirate!

I think you're missing the point. The whole reason for the Twitch drops is to grow the community, increase the interactions across the community, creating some exposure and popularity for the game and get a little reward for being part of that.

Twitch is a popular media platform, just like YouTube it is a way for brands to get their content some exposure. It is in SoT best interests to be involved in that medium. It's essentially free advertising, other people are advertising your product for you and interacting with the fans for you.

When streams are popular on Twitch it makes them more discoverable to other Twitch users, which might in turn bring in new players to the game who saw a stream on Twitch and want to play the game which benefits SoT.

I know this already.

So shouldnt they keep the items totally seperate?

Instead they release frozen horizon ship set on emporium but put the clothing set on twitch drops.

So you kinda have to watch twitch if u want the complete set.

Why not have twitch only exclusive items that dont cross over so those who dont wanna be involved arent missing out?

Perhaps they do usually. But the recent set they did there kinda seems a bit manipilative. Heres your xmas set, want the rest? Hop on twitch.

Would definitely like this approach more.

1. It's not giving more exclusive stuff away for money since everyone had a chance.

2. Gives people a second chance to obtain cosmetics, but at a price.

3. Twitch Drops just aren't fun. I'd much rather do stuff in game to level up and earn cosmetics than mute a twitch stream in another tab for 20 minutes.

@shadow20642 said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

@j3nkman said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

@shadow20642 said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

Id rather play the game and not miss out. Surely there should be a way to earn these cosmetics too? So, why not incorporate it in P pass?

Forget twitch.
Be more pirate! Not, be more spectator watching a pirate!

I think you're missing the point. The whole reason for the Twitch drops is to grow the community, increase the interactions across the community, creating some exposure and popularity for the game and get a little reward for being part of that.

Twitch is a popular media platform, just like YouTube it is a way for brands to get their content some exposure. It is in SoT best interests to be involved in that medium. It's essentially free advertising, other people are advertising your product for you and interacting with the fans for you.

When streams are popular on Twitch it makes them more discoverable to other Twitch users, which might in turn bring in new players to the game who saw a stream on Twitch and want to play the game which benefits SoT.

I know this already.

So shouldnt they keep the items totally seperate?

Instead they release frozen horizon ship set on emporium but put the clothing set on twitch drops.

So you kinda have to watch twitch if u want the complete set.

Why not have twitch only exclusive items that dont cross over so those who dont wanna be involved arent missing out?

Perhaps they do usually. But the recent set they did there kinda seems a bit manipilative. Heres your xmas set, want the rest? Hop on twitch.

The reason they make the packs crossover between the game and Twitch Drops is because they are using a very simple but effective marketing tactic.

The game has a significant player base, ~15 million from the last update I think. If those exisiting players get half of a really cool set and the other half is only available on Twitch, then that is a large base of interested parties and it is the bait to hook you in and get you to watch the Twitch stream, which in turn increases the popularity of SoT on Twitch which may increase the chance that new people will discover the streams on Twitch and turn into new players of the game.

Now, if you made those same items only available for those that want to watch Twitch the number of people watching the streams would be significantly lower, which results in less views, the streams being lower down on Twitch's popularity algorithms thus having a lower marketing impact and a much lower chance of bringing in new players as the streams are less discoverable due to lower views.

It's all a numbers game and simple, yet effective marketing tactics. If you don't want to be involved then "stick it to the man" and don't take part in the streams. If you want to complete your sets then you'll have to give in to the marketing tactics and watch the stream (or as you choose to leave your phone idle on stream for 20 mins).

Either way, they wont bring these items in as part of a plunder pass because it would not have the desired effect from a marketing/advertising perspective for the Twitch campaigns. They will always be separate as they both have different targets.

@shadow20642

Old guys rule. I also dont get the attraction watching someone else play a video game.

However, I'm at work on a ten hour shift and things are real slow.
I usually don't even care for the drops.

It can satisfy my appetite for SoT, and gain a bit of swag as well.

@j3nkman said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

@shadow20642 said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

@j3nkman said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

@shadow20642 said in Twitch drops Bypass with plunder pass.:

Id rather play the game and not miss out. Surely there should be a way to earn these cosmetics too? So, why not incorporate it in P pass?

Forget twitch.
Be more pirate! Not, be more spectator watching a pirate!

I think you're missing the point. The whole reason for the Twitch drops is to grow the community, increase the interactions across the community, creating some exposure and popularity for the game and get a little reward for being part of that.

Twitch is a popular media platform, just like YouTube it is a way for brands to get their content some exposure. It is in SoT best interests to be involved in that medium. It's essentially free advertising, other people are advertising your product for you and interacting with the fans for you.

When streams are popular on Twitch it makes them more discoverable to other Twitch users, which might in turn bring in new players to the game who saw a stream on Twitch and want to play the game which benefits SoT.

I know this already.

So shouldnt they keep the items totally seperate?

Instead they release frozen horizon ship set on emporium but put the clothing set on twitch drops.

So you kinda have to watch twitch if u want the complete set.

Why not have twitch only exclusive items that dont cross over so those who dont wanna be involved arent missing out?

Perhaps they do usually. But the recent set they did there kinda seems a bit manipilative. Heres your xmas set, want the rest? Hop on twitch.

The reason they make the packs crossover between the game and Twitch Drops is because they are using a very simple but effective marketing tactic.

The game has a significant player base, ~15 million from the last update I think. If those exisiting players get half of a really cool set and the other half is only available on Twitch, then that is a large base of interested parties and it is the bait to hook you in and get you to watch the Twitch stream, which in turn increases the popularity of SoT on Twitch which may increase the chance that new people will discover the streams on Twitch and turn into new players of the game.

Now, if you made those same items only available for those that want to watch Twitch the number of people watching the streams would be significantly lower, which results in less views, the streams being lower down on Twitch's popularity algorithms thus having a lower marketing impact and a much lower chance of bringing in new players as the streams are less discoverable due to lower views.

It's all a numbers game and simple, yet effective marketing tactics. If you don't want to be involved then "stick it to the man" and don't take part in the streams. If you want to complete your sets then you'll have to give in to the marketing tactics and watch the stream (or as you choose to leave your phone idle on stream for 20 mins).

Either way, they wont bring these items in as part of a plunder pass because it would not have the desired effect from a marketing/advertising perspective for the Twitch campaigns. They will always be separate as they both have different targets.

Again, i understand the reasons behind it.

But this is a suggestions and feedback thread!

Im giving feedback on my thoughts of something i dont particularly like.

My suggestion is that they keep it totally seperate.

You dont need to explain away, i totally get it. But it doesnt make what they are doing any better