Hello! I don't even have a question, but a big demand and a pretense to the developers, namely that they have not made the possibility of adequate play for single players who, in principle, have no way to survive alone !! Over which one can say there is a wild mockery from all sides, both from the game itself, and from the players themselves meeting at any point on the map, since again there is no choice to survive in such a situation. And this mockery on the part of the developers very much affects the number of people playing their game, because much more players could play, but apparently you don't need this, striking only anger in games against each other. Therefore, if nothing changes for single players, then I will also delete this game and forget about it for a long time.
No way to survive alone in the game
@romchik9587 I was a solo slooper for quite a while...experienced enough it's not a big deal...I can defense myself, I make the skelleton ship raid solo...I sunk a 3 man brig solo (all of them PC players, I'm on XBox)
For starters, yes, they probably have no chance solo, so find yourself a crew, I'd suggest 2 more people so you can run a brig...when you know all the little tricks of the game it's not really hard to surviveEdit: Anyway, this game was never meant to play alone, always designed for more players, even the sloop wasn't planned in the beginning
@schwammlgott I totally agree. I start playing this game 2 weeks ago as a solo slooper and it was frustrating at the beginning but once I watched some tips and tricks for solo players I can survive much longer and I even dare to attack now. Sometimes I just wander around the sea without any treasure just to find someone to fight just for the experience.
@Schwammlgott
I'm quite the opposite. Some experience with sailing.But with combat? There is a chance i will sink from a single skeleton canon and i would probably not stand a chance from the average player even if there where two of me.Even with all that i don't remember ever quitting a session not having a good time.
Solo play can be very difficult at times. you need to be very wary of other pirates as most shoot on sight (there's very little reason for them not to) and so you need to check the horizon for other ships regularly (they're easy to spot from far away) and plan accordingly.
If you can manage to find a friend to join you, the game does become a lot more enjoyable as that paranoia edge is eased off a little.
the only advantages in the game are practiced skill, and numbers. no one out there has any better weapons or stats so once you're comfortable with how to play things do become a bit easier and if you're sneaky enough you can take on other crews if you want.
good luck with your journeys. if there's anything specific you can detail about what's most frustrating to you as a solo player then i'd say write it down as the devs do read things and have changed the game based on feedback before.
Playing solo is hard mode but it's far from "No way to survive alone in the game". I've being sailing solo the majority of the time since Closed Beta. It's a steep learning curve, I don't envy solo sloopers starting out now and having to learn everything, but it is possible.
It's also immensely satisfying taking on and beating a lot of challenges by yourself. You'll fail... a lot... that's almost a certainty, but you'll be all the more estatic when you do succeed. You'll also be more focused and learn the map faster, you'll learn how to spot potential threats from far away, and you'll learn not to hoard loot that you are not willing to lose.
“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.” - Samuel Beckett
I played solo for a long time, im not good in combat even after 2 years of playing but for pve i can handle everything by myself.
Playing solo is hard you need to take care of everything on the ship, drive and constantly watch ships around, and i noticed that i got sunk more times when im playing solo than playing in crew and i think thats the fact for everyone.
Another thing is you lose a large amount of time, doing all task alone, not let yourself to keep to much loot in ship and selling and traveling to the outpost to sell everything you find to minimize risk.
The difference is also playing solo got my very little gold and reputation but playing in crew of 2 or 3 got me even x10 more gold and reputation faster. So playing solo is long long road to pirate legend.So yes, playing solo is hard and i think this game is not meant for solo playing but even like that i enjoyed in my solo adventures so much.
If I solo sloop, I just accept that I am food. I hand in often, so its very rare that I lose treasure. Sometimes things pan out in my favour; for example...
... I was solo slooping, had just handed in loot and was en route to my next destination when I spotted a player Brig on the horizon. Predictably enough they turned my way. I figured I had no treasure, nothing to lose so I anchored up at my destination, hopped off and waited in the bushes to see what they'd do.
Sure enough, I see someone launch off their ship, and go poking around mine. Upon realising I had nothing, he dashed a firebomb on my deck because why not? Now I know a lot of people would have just scuttled here, but I was set on waiting to see if there was some way I could salvage the situation.
As it turns out, my patience was rewarded - another player Brig showed up and laid into the first Brig! As soon as the interloper headed back to his ship, I sprang into action. Put out the fire, fixed the damage, jumped back onto the island, found my loot, got it onto the ship and booked it out of there. I have no idea what the 2nd Brigs intentions were, I had no intention of finding out either! XD
Sometimes, its worth just seeing how things play out. Insta-Scuttling ensures you'll never have a good tale to spin...
I solo slooped a lot back in the days when the game just released. Not much now, because i dont enjoy it that much anymore.
But i decided to solo sloop again after my friends didnt feel like playing that day. and started messing with a allianced brig and gallion crew for an hour until they both sunk.
Rare likes to take players out of their comfort zone to discover fun where they wouldn't normally expect. Wild mockery is part of the ambience, like your wonky face.
It starts with the Infinite Pirate Generator and continues to challenge your ability to think out of the box and adapt.
But from the very start, SoT has been centered around four friends in a boat.
The game is stacked against you alone, but the new Seasons gameplay should improve the experience.
Underneath it all, SoT rewards communication, fortitude, and perseverance.To come to the forum and moan about how the sea is a cruel mistress for lonely sailors is an admission of failure.
The game evolves and pirates are expected to adapt.Be more pirate.
A solo captain is by all means the most difficult crew size to play in, due to you are reliant on your own choices and execution to succeed.
Yet your claims that it is impossible to survive to thrive to be a master of the seas... most definitely not. If that was the case, I am able to achieve the impossible:
- Grinded all types of voyages solo and never lost a Chest of Legends while doing dozens of them.
- Did every single cloud events solo (many before they were nerfed) and yes this includes the Fort of the Damned
- Have done Tall Tales alone.
- Engage in PvP activities and stealing from others.
We also have many content creators that thread the seas for the majority on their own, providing tips and tricks to those that want to achieve the same.
It is your own choice to thread the seas alone, if you find it to difficult maybe first learn how to thread it in a crew. Pirates are not known to be lone wolves, yet those that are will be the most saltiest of seadogs you meet.
Apply the following set of rules:
- Do not sail with more loot than you are willing to lose.
- Stop what you are doing every so often to seek high ground and look at the horizon, stay aware of your surroundings.... there are pirates about!
- Learn to park properly, do not stray to far from your ship, keep the sails and anchor raised when heading to land.
- Get to know your vessel, the seas, the type of vessels that thread them and how to sail. (Don't be a sitting duck expecting mercy from pirates)
- The bucket is better than a plank, manage your water levels before you repair those holes.
- Grab that speaking horn and learn to strike a truce with your fellow pirates while keeping yourself safe.
- Accept that all responsibility lies on your shoulders, loss is an acceptable outcome and be a good sport about it.
- Enjoy the seas! In the end it is a game, do not focus purely on the last part, the adventure awaits and the story is more important than any amount of coin.
@romchik9587 i think its unfair to buy an online multiplayer game then complain that the singleplayer sucks well ofcourse it does!
it wasn't made with the thought in mind that people would sail alone never not once yes you can solo a sloop but it wasn't made for solo players
every ship was meant for a crew none of them were meant for solo play and if not mistaken rare themselves said that sailing solo would be like playing hardmode its like playing doom on the hardest difficulty where you lose you start over completly even if you die at the last boss back to the beginning is this fair? yes it is fair because you choose to put yourself through that experience
i've sailed solo plenty of times and i can tell you there are many ways to survive but even i struggle at times doing solo because i have to manage the ship and shoot cannons and make sure other pirates sink every job that a crew can manage i have to do by myself
people who sail solo intentionally put themselves in hardmode simple as that any changes made to make solo play easier would make fully crewed ships easier
@cotu42 said in No way to survive alone in the game:
A solo captain is by all means the most difficult crew size to play in, due to you are reliant on your own choices and execution to succeed.
Yet your claims that it is impossible to survive to thrive to be a master of the seas... most definitely not. If that was the case, I am able to achieve the impossible:
- Grinded all types of voyages solo and never lost a Chest of Legends while doing dozens of them.
- Did every single cloud events solo (many before they were nerfed) and yes this includes the Fort of the Damned
- Have done Tall Tales alone.
- Engage in PvP activities and stealing from others.
We also have many content creators that thread the seas for the majority on their own, providing tips and tricks to those that want to achieve the same.
It is your own choice to thread the seas alone, if you find it to difficult maybe first learn how to thread it in a crew. Pirates are not known to be lone wolves, yet those that are will be the most saltiest of seadogs you meet.
Apply the following set of rules:
- Do not sail with more loot than you are willing to lose.
- Stop what you are doing every so often to seek high ground and look at the horizon, stay aware of your surroundings.... there are pirates about!
- Learn to park properly, do not stray to far from your ship, keep the sails and anchor raised when heading to land.
- Get to know your vessel, the seas, the type of vessels that thread them and how to sail. (Don't be a sitting duck expecting mercy from pirates)
- The bucket is better than a plank, manage your water levels before you repair those holes.
- Grab that speaking horn and learn to strike a truce with your fellow pirates while keeping yourself safe.
- Accept that all responsibility lies on your shoulders, loss is an acceptable outcome and be a good sport about it.
- Enjoy the seas! In the end it is a game, do not focus purely on the last part, the adventure awaits and the story is more important than any amount of coin.
@Romchik9587 sound advice to follow from @CotU42
@romchik9587 dont know if anyone has said it already, but afaik devs didnt want anyone to be able to play alone, even the sloop was for teams only in early alpha's.
Players begged for it to be able to sail solo with all the disadvantages and so devs decided to make this possible.
that was maybe the moment when the term: tools not rules was born for this game.
So you also can solo a galleone and many do so and try it, but all overall it is just a big disadvantage.i have some tips and some kind of mindest for you that may turn you around and set sail again.
think of it as a rouge like game with horizontal progression.
If you lose, you still gained experience and knowledge of the world and all you really lose is time you cannot wear another cosmetic aka shiny cutlass or that cool hat.the experience you make, also when losing/ sinking is priceless because experience and knowing the map, the islands and the AI encounters and all that is key and will turn your life on the Sea of Thieves more and more into a mostly successfull piratelife.
Know that world events and some journey's/ quests are made for MP and not for soloing.
that means, you maybe can do it even solo, but you put yourself into a massive disadvantage because you still and allways need to keep watching the horizon and protect yourself from possible agressors.Nobody can appear out of a sudden in SoT, no ship, not even a camper can exist, because ships can be spotted minutes before they arrive and camper have a mermaid.
Sure you can avoid that mermaid to pop with a rowboat and you can even pull a rowboat with harpoon into the tavern of an outpost and dont produce a mermaid, but honestly you can be cautious and even doublecheck that before you park your ship. in case you made bad experiences and be somewhat paranoic this is fine, i did so for myself to then realize it happens 1 time in 3 years ;DSo choose what you want to do and adapt to the situation aka solo in a MP world.
fly under the radar. take your time, prioritze your tasks different.
SAFETY FIRST!
You are literally going to war with a stick and 3 stones.
with that mindeset all you have left is beeing clever, smart and stubborn ;D
I still do that wiht a galleone crew and even when we just met a sloop.
When i dont do it i sink and very often i exactly know what i did wrong and why i've sunk.
Mostly i was impatient or hoped to be lucky, made some hilarious maneuver what had maybe a 1% chance to be epic, but to be real a 99% chance to fail for sure.avoid stuff that make you leave your ship for longer than 2 minutes, dont lose track of your ship, try to allways keep it in sight, check the horizon in all direction as often as you can, so nobody can appear out of a sudden.
become humble, dont be greedy and take your time.
I for example like to solo Athena's. That are Piratelegen Missions you can buy if you hit PL and they contain 2 of each type of journey.
2 Cargo's, 2 riddles, 2 X Mark the spot, 2 kill the Captains.
I chose the route dependent on what i have spotted around, i sell in between and i accept detours.
BTW i killed the Shrouded Ghost on a detour, so dont refuse to do detours ;)This is a pirate adventure game, you need to stand up one more time you have sunk, thanks to the ferryman who makes that possible!
You cannot lose anything, you always win somehow, because of what i said in the beginning, experience!
I still learn from my mistakes i do ingame and i sail since technical alpha!fair winds to you
have fun - Stun o7@pirate-pambo Completely agree. I find the challenge of solo slooping so enthralling (and also because I play mostly very late at night). A couple of days ago I was doing the Stars of Thief tall tale when I was set upon by a brig while I was docked at the North Star seapost. I knew I wouldn't be able to take them out so I set about escaping. They chased me for a good 15 minutes and although it was challenging keeping my sloop afloat it was great fun. I kept expecting one of their crew to board me to stop me repairing but they never did.
Anyway, after another 5 minutes or so of them STILL chasing me into the wind I decided to scuttle, as I had nothing on board to lose, other than a little bit of Tall Tale progress. Mermed out of there and went on my way, finishing the tall tale.
@pirate-pambo so 3 is fastest and 1 is slowest because i read it like 1 is fastest and 3 is slowest that is why it made more sense and also because a good bit of the time you go against the wind to get to a quest so they added this as a way so you dont stop or go backwards but you move slower therefore it isnt a real world thing it is there just for the importance of time.
@romchik9587 said in No way to survive alone in the game:
Hello! I don't even have a question, but a big demand and a pretense to the developers, namely that they have not made the possibility of adequate play for single players who, in principle, have no way to survive alone !! Over which one can say there is a wild mockery from all sides, both from the game itself, and from the players themselves meeting at any point on the map, since again there is no choice to survive in such a situation. And this mockery on the part of the developers very much affects the number of people playing their game, because much more players could play, but apparently you don't need this, striking only anger in games against each other. Therefore, if nothing changes for single players, then I will also delete this game and forget about it for a long time.
If you want any solo play advice feel free to message me. I was a successful solo slooper for awhile. I assure I am no super game either, just an average gal who enjoys video games.
I strongly disagree. I enjoy playing solo the most. Experienced player can sink inexperienced galleon easily.
Ofc, when it's 1v4 (even 1v2) and they are all on the same exp. level, the strength is in numbers and it's whole another story.
If you "can't survive alone", you are playing the game wrong. You (as a solo player) are in a disadvantage, you have to be cautious and try to avoid conflicts. At least until you are experienced enough to hunt all those open crew "let's take the BIG ship because no one can sink it and everybody will fear us" players (90 % of the playerbase).
