Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!

  • @combatxkitty said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @bubah1z1 said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @br0crastinat0r said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @bubah1z1 you see, we all rationalize what we do. I don’t see a problem luring would be attacker’s on long chases for an anticlimactic end. I see it as a very pirate thing to do in denying my aggressors the loot.

    I find it really disturbing to see how many people agree with you, but then again 90% of the players run away in this game when only about 10% are the aggressors

    Does people running bother you?What should they do? Drop their anchors so slow pokes can catch up? Make it easy for people who are trying to rob them? I had two guys chasing me and my friend the other week, dropped our anchor for them like three times and they still couldn't catch up, not our problem. People can be fabulous at boarding a ship and hopping around like a bunny rabbit with a sword but if cant sail to catch your prey it kinda doesnt matter how good you are at combat.

    You need to read my previous posts i think, I don't mind people running. And calling people slow pokes.. Really.. Incase you didn't know already ships have diffrent speeds and the problem is that people can go outside of the map so you don't get their loot.
    There are no others games like this where you can grief your loot. If you die in any mmo / fps / adventure / ... games your loot falls on the floor.

    As I've stated before 90% Procent of the players preffer the PvE aspect of the game and you can clearly see this on the forums. Don't be sad because you can't stand up for yourselfs. Fight for your loot and don't be [mod edit] and sail into the red sea.

  • Fight for your loot and don't be a coward

    (Savvy, tactical pirate)

    and sail into the red sea

    (where the nasty scurvy dogs can't get yer precious plunder!)

    XD

  • @bubah1z1 said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @combatxkitty said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @bubah1z1 said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @br0crastinat0r said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @bubah1z1 you see, we all rationalize what we do. I don’t see a problem luring would be attacker’s on long chases for an anticlimactic end. I see it as a very pirate thing to do in denying my aggressors the loot.

    I find it really disturbing to see how many people agree with you, but then again 90% of the players run away in this game when only about 10% are the aggressors

    Does people running bother you?What should they do? Drop their anchors so slow pokes can catch up? Make it easy for people who are trying to rob them? I had two guys chasing me and my friend the other week, dropped our anchor for them like three times and they still couldn't catch up, not our problem. People can be fabulous at boarding a ship and hopping around like a bunny rabbit with a sword but if cant sail to catch your prey it kinda doesnt matter how good you are at combat.

    You need to read my previous posts i think, I don't mind people running. And calling people slow pokes.. Really.. Incase you didn't know already ships have diffrent speeds and the problem is that people can go outside of the map so you don't get their loot.>

    I know all about ship speeds, I've sailed all three ships. Some people are just slow pokes. I see them in my tiny spy glass, their sails are a hot mess, they do silly things like try to use rocks in times during a chase where it is zero benefit and will only slow them down, Ive seen it all. So yeah some people are just slow pokes. Sorry but its true and people like that do not deserve loot. People like that yell at me and my friend after we sell our loot all mad we wouldn't slow down for them so they could try to steal it(we enjoy their cries and salty tears of course). They arent missing much, we cash in so often we usually have only a few items if any.

    There are no others games like this where you can grief your loot. If you die in any mmo / fps / adventure / ... games your loot falls on the floor.

    Well yeah thats great thats other games, clearly not this one. I just do not think its griefing. I see spawn camping and killing a priate before they can even move defended all the time here. People are told, oh well you lost your ship scuttle and move on. Well I guess same can be said about this, oh well a player reached the red, give up and move on you lost that chase.

    As I've stated before 90% Procent of the players preffer the PvE aspect of the game and you can clearly see this on the forums. Don't be sad because you can't stand up for yourselfs. Fight for your loot and don't be a coward and sail into the red sea.>

    Well first off hope that little statement of cowardliness (which I always find funny because we are all just playing a video game, we arnt actually out risking our lives) was not directed at me because I have done my fair share of PvP on this game. Also just because someone chooses not to PvP in this game doesnt mean they cant stand up for themselves or are scared. Its a PvPvE game not a sole PvP game so not engaging in PvP does not make them a coward. I just get annoyed by people who come here and complain about PvP in a PvPVE game not at people who choose not to PvP in one.

    One false belief some people like to tell themselves while gaming and someone does not PvP them back is that they are scared or a coward, I guess it an ego booster to them. Truth is there are many reasons why someone may not want to PvP in this game. Example me. I PvP in other games, I am real nasty, Ive even been d'dosed on occasions so why am I such a wonderful, kind peaceful pirate here? Its because the PvP set up is very lack luster to me, as simple as that. If it was more brutal and ruthless Id be killing scrawny toothless pirates and chubby hairy pirates left and right.

    Anyways I do not personally understand destroying loot, its not something I would do but hey if other people want to do it that doesnt bother me any. Then again I do not chase people down for their loot either so maybe if I did I would have my pirate britches up in a bunch but I dont think so because Im a pretty cool gamer in PvPve type games. Now I do play PvP games and yeah people running and hiding in those do annoy me. Nothing worse than being on a battle field and chasing after a tank who is running away.

  • @psychoticxnut I do the same longest tour i took a ship on was 2hours before they gave up had zero treasure aboard they never knew!

  • @bubah1z1
    You are the sore loser! I’ll take on a solo sloop any day and often a duo Sloop but some days, especially now with revive an option for crews, a brig or galleon is no contest in a fight on your terms. So catch me if you can.

  • @rikology Don't chase them off the map. "Give up" and wait on the way to an outpost or something, then take another shot at them when they aren't just yellow-tailing into the red. Chess not checkers.

  • @furgawdsake said in Stop players from sailing into the shroud by dropping their loot on the edge!:

    @bubah1z1
    You are the sore loser! I’ll take on a solo sloop any day and often a duo Sloop but some days, especially now with revive an option for crews, a brig or galleon is no contest in a fight on your terms. So catch me if you can.

    I think we have a diffrent idea of what the word loser means, acording to google this is a Loser ; " a person or thing that loses or has lost something, especially a game or contest." Thats sounds like you if you can't take on a duo sloop as you just mentioned..

    Nor do i think you know what this topic is actually about..

    At the end of the day if you feel like sailing into the red sea against a guy in a rowboat because he"ll steal your blue mermaid gem please be my guest. Some people just can't stand up for themselfs and thats fine.

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  • @combatxkitty You really can't call people slowpokes in this game.. if you even have the slightest knowledge about the game. If you are able to sell your loot off i don't care at all, its the griefers who sail into the red sea I have issue with.

    And as you stated you don't like people complaining about PvP in a PvPVE game.. Isn't that like a major part in this game..

    Its the exact same when people don't like others stealing.. Like its not in the games title " Sea of Thieves ".

    And i agree with your last paragraph fully, I don't carry for the minor loot most people have on their ship. But i don't think that should be a reason to despawn everything.

  • @bubah1z1 Well we will have to disagree on the slow poke thing because some people just cant sail for a life time supply of coconuts and that's just the truth. I know alot about this game and I feel confident calling some ships slow pokes, turtles, sloths, slugs, a tug boat and on and on.

    I agree with you stealing is a huge part of the game for many people because they choose to play the game that way which is totally fine. Like I stated I do not agree with destroying loot, I just think its silly and wasteful. Honestly we put people chasing us through hell so if somehow they were to get a couple trinkets out of us they would have well earned it.

    With that said I still think if a pirate decides to destroy loot on their ship then so be it. Its really more their loss than the chasers. If the chaser has dedicated an hour or more of time to chasing then that is their problem, clearly that chase was not going well for them yet they stuck with it anyways, their choice. That is life, sometimes you do not get the cake you wanted for your birthday (I been waiting for a Carvel Fudgey the Whale cake for like 20 years now) and in this case sometimes you just dont get that foul bounty skull and box of fancy tea's.

  • @combatxkitty I agree with you, it's more their loss then the chasers. That being sad i still at the end of the day think you should not be able to despawn your loot. I don't find victory or joy in the amount of loot a ship has (although does it feel damn good stealing 4 Athena's from two allied galleons as a sloop) I find more joy in sinking them.

    I get your point with the slow pokes refference but you need to understand its all situational.

    • The disctance you get spot at
    • Are they already close to the red sea
    • Are they on a faster ship
    • ...

    Imo. The longer i chase someone the better in a weird way, because at the end of the day I'm here to make sure my achievements stay on that 0,01% the playerbase has and every piece i prevent from people selling their loot helps :D

  • @rikology i think an easy solution would be that the Red Sea could act like a tide, over the next, say 5 minutes?, the loot washes back into playable area. Not immediately, the threat is you have to wait.

    As I’ve had it before, chased some “legends” down and they weren’t watching where they were going as they were trying to snipe me.
    Legends make me laugh though, now the games been out so long, a lot of legends - not all - it’s time over skill. Time spent grinding at a slow rate with a high failure rate still gets you there! It’s been a long time since I feared the look of the ghost sails. More often, if I see ghost sails, I make a beeline for them (if doing reapers or feel some pvp)

  • Try to deny me my loot, I will deny you my loot.

    Red Sea Squad for life lol.

    All y'all calling people cowards for outrunning you are even worse at the game than we are.

  • I don't mind giving up on a chase if I don't think I'll be able to keep up - besides, another opportunity may yet present itself later. Chasing them to the point of no return, where everyone loses, is no good for anyone.

  • @pithyrumble 'Red Sea Squad' wow stop embarrassing yourself...

  • @rikology

    Says the land lubber who can't catch people before they escape into the red and whines for a nerf...

  • @pithyrumble Running away into the wind doesn't take any skill... amuses me you think it is out running... noob life must be simple

  • @rikology Either catch them or admit the loss of loot!

    There is nothing that say's people need to just hand over their loot...in fact 'The loot is not yours until you turn it in' rings in my head.

    If you can't catch the person, you can't take the loot...

    If you can't take the loot, you can't turn it in...

    If you can't turn it in...it is not yours.... so you have no say in what the current holder of it does with it! 🤷‍♂️

  • Why do people keep using the "it's a pirate game" as an argument? You saying that actually makes your argument for a change worse. The fact it IS a pirate game makes this way of play fine. Why? Cause there are no rules.

    There are no rules saying you have to engage in a fight. There are no rules saying you have to give over the loot after x amount of time. And there are no rules saying that someone on either side has to get the loot, but you're wanting a rule implemented so you're not denied the loot if you fail to catch your prey. What you are asking for goes against what a pirate game is. There are many stories of pirates running from battle and denying themselves and their pursuers the loot.

    If PvErs have to accept that they could spend hours apon hours in a fort, doing emissary runs or any sort of PvE content and lose it all, PvPers need to accept they won't always get the loot if they chase someone for hours.

  • @triheadedmonkey what are you even talking about?! who is saying they need to hand over their loot?!? imagine mods encouraging this cowardly behaviour haha

  • @rikology If you cant catch their ship before they decide to go into the red, that is on you.
    Use this as a learning experience.
    And what @triheadedmonkey means is that the person that had the loot on their ship had every right to go into the red. Does it suck not to get the loot you were after? sure.
    but at the end of the day, it wasnt your loot.

  • The more I thought about it this kinda reminds me of people who EWO in other games where death ratio matters. People do that to me all the time, kill themselves so I can't get the points and so their ratio doesnt change. People like that are rather annoying. Oh well, nothing a quick a rocket up the azz can't fix, that usually gets them.

    My opinion however has not changed even after this revelation.

  • @talriaen Learning experience? I'd do this all over again even if it took me hours... I would never let them get the loot they worked hard for and if they sail into the red that is still a win for me because I know they don't have the skills to beat me...

  • @rikology if it is a win for you, then why make this thread in the first place?

  • @talriaen to make it a win win and get the loot in the end too.. in all fairness I was only bothered about their flag

  • If you want loot sail faster. It's obviously not a win for you cause you're in here crying for a nerf.

    I bet it really makes you steam when they have the Shroudbreaker equipped and head to Tribute Peak.

  • @rikology

    I made a comment in a different thread saying "change the flag drop into an immediate reward and rep. If you are in the area of the sinking ship or you landed shots it wont matter where the ship sinks you will still get the gold and rep from turning the flag in" that way if they red sea it really is still a "win"..for both parties actually. They win because they dumped their loot and you didnt get it...you win because you still got credit for sinking them. Gold and rep is still based on what level the flag is. So it would have a popup that says "you sunk a level 5 emmisary!" And the gold pops up in the right side of the screen and the rep moves right after the emmisary notification leaves.

    The pvp side went after me saying "you dont understand pvp we dont wanna fight we just want the loot" lol

    I doubt they would implement my mechanic if they have plans to allow you to reattach the flag to your ship in the future or something but its worth mentioning just in case :)

  • sailing your loot into the shroud because you lost is a toxic way to play and the fact that it is accepted as a tactic and not called out for what it is really shows the true nature of the forums at this point in time. Throughout this thread there are so many exaples of adhominims that show this toxic mind set for what it is. loosing in a game and then saying that you won because you voided loot that you were going to loose to your pursures is bad sportsman like and toxic. For a community that likes to think of itself as a friendly enviroment you are all so close minded.

  • @cpt-bolleck It's not toxic. Sure it is a bad choice, but pirates are pirates. This is a pirate game. The mindset of the pirates who sail into the Shroud is one of "If I can't have it, then neither can they." Toxicity is the act of verbally or racially insulting someone. It is not toxic to sail into the Shroud, as that was the players choice.

  • @pithyrumble You don't know how this game works... Calling me a land lubber but I have almost double the amount of miles sailed than you is just insulting yourself... also you are using the word nerf incorrectly …

  • Nope, the red sea is me last resort. No one gets me booty.

  • If someone is running for that long and you can't catch up, leave them alone and the sneak up on them when they park somewhere. It'll take less time and you'll actually take their loot, too.

  • @supersnipper60 disagree entirely. if the reason you are getting rid of your loot is to spite someone and no other reason, that is toxic.

  • Can't catch a noob?

    [mod edited]

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