Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.

@viperishemu2992 im gonna call it now and say this thread is gonna go downhill pretty swiftly and more than likely get locked

@viperishemu2992 said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

Disclaimer: I am not against private servers. I am not against a separate PvE mode. I am not against an aggressive PvP playing style. I'm fine with the game as is. I recognise that it can be improved. This thread is not about those things.

...but I am a bit sick of the endless complaints from players here on the forum that they are being "ganked", "bush-walked", "trolled", "griefed", "bullied" ... etc just because some other crew came along and stole their Loot.

If other players are often stealing your loot, it probably means that you are still learning the game. There is no shame in this. The more you play, the better you get. The better you get, the less loot you lose. In a game without levels and power-ups this is called "progression".

Yes there are Griefers and Trolls and Cheaters and Jerks in the SoT. But the folks that sail up and steal your stuff are called "Pirates". And the risk of Pirates keeps SoT exciting and fresh.

Sure it sucks losing Loot. But the up-side is the satisfaction of avoiding the Pirates and selling it successfully.

aye but this prolly will get locked soon

Both parties are rewarded.
The pirate who steals and those who dug it up (Completed voyage) Commendations are also a reward.

Working on Athena chests, someone steals or sinks my ship while I still have loot on. By all means Im only really aiming for the Athena in the long run.

Someone steals a Bounty/Reapers chests? Oh well there be more of them on the sea in time. (Some are never picked up)
Once I gain enough doubloons from Commendations, I can use that to gain gold. Thus...I still got some reward.

First rule of SOT "get used to losing loot!!"

@wh1sky-bob said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

@viperishemu2992

I am new to the game. My buddies and I started playing like two weeks ago. I have lost tons of loot, lost couple of ships, got slaughtered like 50 meters away from finishing a Tall Tale I've been doing for 2 hours but that is what I signed up for.

I don't understand people that feel that every game should appeal to them and their tastes. It's a PVP game and people should finally acknowledge that. I suck at League of Legends so I don't play League of Legends, I don't go around hoping to force changes upon the game so it would better fit my playstyle.

The game should focus on adding more fun content, more variety of activities using the current model instead of catering to those that clearly chose the wrong title to spend their time in. Open PVP is a defining factor of this game, compromise would mean SoT losing its identity and uniqueness.

In a world where every 'open-world PVP' game has 'safe zones' or 'opt-in PVP' or other killjoy mechanics, Sea of Thieves feels to me like a breath of fresh air and I do hope it won't compromise over a few crybabies.

Welcome!

@viperishemu2992 said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

Disclaimer: I am not against private servers. I am not against a separate PvE mode. I am not against an aggressive PvP playing style. I'm fine with the game as is. I also recognise that it can be improved. This thread is not about those things.

...but I am a bit sick of the endless complaints from players here on the forum that they are being "ganked", "bush-walked", "trolled", "griefed", "bullied" ... etc just because some other crew came along and stole their Loot.

If other players are often stealing your loot, it probably means that you are still learning the game. There is no shame in this. The more you play, the better you get. The better you get, the less loot you lose. In a game without levels, buffs and power-ups this is called "progression".

Yes there are Griefers and Trolls and Cheaters and Jerks in the SoT. But those folks that sail up and steal your stuff are just called "Pirates". And the risk of Pirates keeps SoT exciting and fresh.

Sure it sucks losing Loot. That's the biggest motivation to keep playing and improving you skill level.

I think it's more often that players are bothered by what's going on verbally more than the actual theft. And I've certainly seen people lash out when players were acting questionably toxic because they're sick of people complaining.

With the nature of this game, the combination of troll culture, and the heaviest of trash talkers who make up for lack of skill by attempting to tilt players emotionaly. I don't really see the complaints ever stopping. It just is what it is, and I doubt anyone will actually change.

@archaell said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

@ecres Exactly. The players that lost the loot would get their reward after you turn it in. You get your reward. They get their reward. Everybody is happy and nobody frustrated. Right now the game is punishing for the players that are bad at pvp. The Thieves have to get rewarded sure, but punishing the losing party is just needless suffering that could have been avoided completely by better game design.

And if the second crew gets bested by a third, there are three crews that get gold ? And a fourth crew, fifth and sixth ... Sea of Sharing would have been a better game title.

@d3adst1ck said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

@archaell said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

SoT in its current form works like the Rust and other survival games focused on pvp which in my opinion was not intended.

PvP interaction was definitely an intended design. Joe Neate has stated that a large part of the game was inspired by games like Eve Online and DayZ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kejC9VKnock

Compared to those games, Sea of Thieves is pretty forgiving when you get killed.

Exactly. The stakes are just high enough to make the game interesting and make fights exciting, without being too high that it would be demoralizing or devastating to lose either.

It's really right in the sweet spot and some people don't seem to realize it.

@vaca-hombre said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

@lem0n-curry said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

Sea of Sharing would have been a better game title.

I wouldn't mind that as like a spin-off game or something. Sounds delightful. =D

With shooting chests and skulls unto other ships 😁

@archaell said in Maybe it's time that players just accept that Loot gets stolen.:

@viperishemu2992 Players that would benefit from reading this stop playig and are replaced by new players that complain and stop playing. It's endless stream of new people that see the game sucks for them due to pvp and quit.

Perhaps players loosing the loot wasn't such smart decision when the game is supposed to be social. Everything could have been different were the players not losing any loot. It's just a game so both the attacker and defender could have been rewarded the same which would have led to the social interactions the devs were aiming for.

Its the marketing. The way Rare has been selling the game as a friendly casual pirate simulator is misleading.

@itsyaboyd4890 Not only that, it's a family and kid friendly game.
Allthough i would never let my kids play this game, it might look like a kids game but parents need to see what kind of a game this really is...and it ain't family friendly.