So me and my mates just did a Gilded athena and went to cash it in at the masked stranger thinking we'd make a bunch of gold and some rep be it double or normal amount.
But surprise surprise, we got 0 rep yet nowhere does it seem to say that "You do not get double or any reputation for turning in chests at the masked stranger"
Pretty deceiving if you ask me.
Why wouldn't you be able to get reputation there? Atleast with Athena chests. It does say "Double rewards" in the patch notes and as far as i'm concerned: Reputation IS a reward. Making a small disclaimer saying "Gives no reputation" should've been easy enough but no.
Why would you get gold at the masked stranger then? We know the trading companies have enough bank to pay for your chests and so does the Mysterious stranger considering they have a literal hideout and surely a pile of gold there.
@wailingclock794 Pretty sure there is dialog, or was in a previous update, that says an outside investor is funding the mysterious stranger and not the trading companies. Since the trading companies have nothing to do with it, you don't get reputation for delivering there.
@wailingclock794 Idk why you're getting hate for this. I didn't know this either. Like you said, it wasn't in the patch notes so how would you? And to the people saying you should "just know" because it isn't a trading company, and that the masked stranger has investing from the other companies etc, that is NOT how you provide knowledge to a playerbase.
@wailingclock794 said in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
Why wouldn't you be able to get reputation there? Atleast with Athena chests. It does say "Double rewards" in the patch notes and as far as i'm concerned: Reputation IS a reward. Making a small disclaimer saying "Gives no reputation" should've been easy enough but no.
Why would you get gold at the masked stranger then? We know the trading companies have enough bank to pay for your chests and so does the Mysterious stranger considering they have a literal hideout and surely a pile of gold there.
Directly from the Patch Notes...
Double Gold at The Reaper’s Hideout – Pirates can now sell Captain’s Chests, Villainous Skulls, Crates of Exotic Silks, Chests of Legends and even Ashen Chests of Legends to the Masked Stranger at The Reaper's Hideout for double gold!
@wailingclock794
Your welcome to read the patch notes, but here it is in black and white.
Double Gold at The Reaper’s Hideout – Pirates can now sell Captain’s Chests, Villainous Skulls, Crates of Exotic Silks, Chests of Legends and even Ashen Chests of Legends to the Masked Stranger at The Reaper's Hideout for double gold!
Nowhere does it state reputation. Reputation is normally only linked to the faction you turn it into. Think of it like gems. Gems are universal, but whomever you turn it into, that is where you get reputation. Reapers Hideout has no faction behind it currently. Therefore, no reputation gains.
@wailingclock794 Idk why you're getting hate for this. I didn't know this either. Like you said, it wasn't in the patch notes so how would you?@wailingclock794 Idk why you're getting hate for this. I didn't know this either. Like you said, it wasn't in the patch notes so how would you? And to the people saying you should "just know" because it isn't a trading company, and that the masked stranger has investing from the other companies etc, that is NOT how you provide knowledge to a playerbase.
Ahh, I see you also didn't actually read the patch notes. Allow me to direct my fellow Pirate to the patch notes. The tool designed to "Provide Knowledge to a playerbase."
Double Gold at The Reaper’s Hideout – Pirates can now sell Captain’s Chests, Villainous Skulls, Crates of Exotic Silks, Chests of Legends and even Ashen Chests of Legends to the Masked Stranger at The Reaper's Hideout for double gold!
@nabberwar said in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
@wailingclock794 Idk why you're getting hate for this. I didn't know this either. Like you said, it wasn't in the patch notes so how would you?@wailingclock794 Idk why you're getting hate for this. I didn't know this either. Like you said, it wasn't in the patch notes so how would you? And to the people saying you should "just know" because it isn't a trading company, and that the masked stranger has investing from the other companies etc, that is NOT how you provide knowledge to a playerbase.
Ahh, I see you also didn't actually read the patch notes. Allow me to direct my fellow Pirate to the patch notes. The tool designed to "Provide Knowledge to a playerbase."
Double Gold at The Reaper’s Hideout – Pirates can now sell Captain’s Chests, Villainous Skulls, Crates of Exotic Silks, Chests of Legends and even Ashen Chests of Legends to the Masked Stranger at The Reaper's Hideout for double gold!
Hey supertrooper, this whole topic is about how it doesn't say it does not give rep. And thank you for quoting it, now I can quote back to you the same quote that doesn't mention anything about rep. Do you understand yet you moron? lol
Exactly, it says nothing about giving reputation at all. In fact, one of the update logs says that it's a choice between reputation or double gold.
@impulsiverecoil
Mate, don't be dense. The patch notes states exactly what it gives, it shouldn't have to state what it doesn't give. People should be able to figure out such a simple thing. It clearly states it gives gold. It shouldn't have to state what it doesn't give, because people should be able to interpret if its states what it gives, than that should be exactly what it gives. Reaper's chest give doubloons, states it gives exactly that, should it also state that it doesn't give reputation either, does that need a warning too for the particularly dense individuals?
Double Gold at The Reaper’s Hideout – Pirates can now sell Captain’s Chests, Villainous Skulls, Crates of Exotic Silks, Chests of Legends and even Ashen Chests of Legends to the Masked Stranger at The Reaper's Hideout for double gold!
Bolded and italicized for the particularity dense people.
I didn't know this either.
Whats even better, is that you didn't even check yourself before arguing about something you clearly didn't know.
I'm done here, have a good one.
You make sense, though Rare should have made a statement in brackets that reputation is not earned with this turn in.
I was playing with someone today and we did my Gilded Athena. We liked the Gold but he was really disappointed he didn't get his rep. Had we known, we would have went to a tavern instead.
And to your notion that the notes shouldn't say that. I disagree, because for 2 years we have been getting Rep for everything we have been doing. This is the first time we have turned in items and not received Rep for. Thats all. A simple line would have been nice.
@lord-szarvas
I disagree, because for 2 years we have been getting Rep for everything we have been doing. This is the first time we have turned in items and not received Rep for. Thats all. A simple line would have been nice.
Reapers chests, Tome's of Power, Ashen Chests, Rag and Bone Crates (Give Gold when late), keys, Festival Gifts, plenty of things in this game don't give reputation. Note, none of these items state what you don't receive, only what you do receive.
@lord-szarvas sagte in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
And to your notion that the notes shouldn't say that. I disagree, because for 2 years we have been getting Rep for everything we have been doing. This is the first time we have turned in items and not received Rep for. Thats all. A simple line would have been nice.
We got rep for selling it to each of the factions...when we where able to sell the gunpowder to the mysterious stranger we got rep for athenas, not the merchants...so why should we get rep by selling it to someone who isn't in one of the factions?
@impulsiverecoil I fully agree with you man, i knew about it but just because ive checked it out they should have made it clearer.
@nabberwar Those are items that were never tied to the trading companies. It's very easy for most players to get into the mental shortcut of thinking gold hoarders chests give gold hoarders rep, and so on. The statement is extremely vague by just saying "double gold." That could mean it only gives double gold, or that it gives double gold and normal rep (because players are used to getting rep from chests, skulls, and silk).
@nabberwar said in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
@wailingclock794 Idk why you're getting hate for this. I didn't know this either. Like you said, it wasn't in the patch notes so how would you?@wailingclock794 Idk why you're getting hate for this. I didn't know this either. Like you said, it wasn't in the patch notes so how would you? And to the people saying you should "just know" because it isn't a trading company, and that the masked stranger has investing from the other companies etc, that is NOT how you provide knowledge to a playerbase.
Ahh, I see you also didn't actually read the patch notes. Allow me to direct my fellow Pirate to the patch notes. The tool designed to "Provide Knowledge to a playerbase."
Double Gold at The Reaper’s Hideout – Pirates can now sell Captain’s Chests, Villainous Skulls, Crates of Exotic Silks, Chests of Legends and even Ashen Chests of Legends to the Masked Stranger at The Reaper's Hideout for double gold!
The game needs to provide this information not only through patch notes not every players needs to go into Sea of Thieves website and check updates in details it needs to be clearer in game.
Maybe for a start they can add the patch notes into the game like most games, on the main menu bottom right one if these messages can be the patch notes and again make things clearer.
When the first ahsen chests came out i didnt knew that if you sell them with items inside even after youve opened it it wont count them,if its the case it shouldnt let me sell the chest at all until its empty.
Just bad communication on this small things.
@nabberwar Those are items that were never tied to the trading companies.
My original response to was the following statement
I disagree, because for 2 years we have been getting Rep for everything we have been doing.
Not everything, as the example items I presented beg to differ
This is the first time we have turned in items and not received Rep for.
Items stated earlier are turned in items that don't recieve Rep. Its clearly not the first time. I am very careful with my word choice, or at least I try to be. I take things literal, if you say everything, you mean everything.
Regardless of no warning or not, we have a set precedent from other items. Mega Kegs at a time could be turned into other factions not merchant. We can also look at Mermaid gems, when turned in they give rep to the faction recieved. The patch notes stated gold, at least to me it was quite obvious. Might help that I am a rules lawyer when it comes to games. I take things literal, never a good idea to assume.
@burnbacon sagte in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
Stranger isn't part of any Faction, why get Rep from someone who isn't part of it?
This! ☝️
And I said it before: we had an event, where we could sell gunpowder to the mysterious stranger and got rep for, surprise surprise, athenas...and not the merchants...
We sell stuff to the faction and get rep for it...
You can say you didn't know, and that's understandable. However, you have to admit that it makes sense, right? Isn't making sense good enough for anything these days?
Also, who is to blame for turning multiple items in and then complaining about the reward. Maybe exercise some caution and test and see what the results are before doing something (repeatedly or in bulk) that you may regret.
You have to understand by now - SoT is not the kind of game to hold your hands. It's an aspect that many people enjoy. Any one of us may fall victim of this game, if we don't keep our wits, but it's okay. It's part of the chaos that makes the game filled with the experiences it creates. And sometimes it's not so much about what the game does to us, but how we interact, and react, to what the game does to us.
Just my thoughts.
@galactic-geek said in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
Don't give your loot to the Reaper's Hideout! It's a ploy! A trap! No good can come from that place. Stick to the companies that you know and trust!
but the commendations...
Jeeze, it seems like you come on here just to argue for the sake of arguing and you don't really add anything productive then to what we're talking about.
Of course those items don't amount to Rep because you've described Bilge Rat items. Which, I don't remember for sure if some of those did give us rep as well.
Point is, when you're holding an Athenas chest and for 2 years when you turned those in you got rep for it, the player might expect some rep here as well. It would have been nice for a heads up from Rare but I guess people have to figure these things out for themselves..
And for the record, if you wanna argue semantics, Athenas is not really a trading company (though the wiki does like to call it as such). There is no current lore around the Mysterious Stranger for why we get Rep to him for turning the Athenas chest in. All of the rep tabs have descriptions on that company. Athena's description only says about getting commendations.
There is a precedent already that you get reputation for the faction of the representative irregardless of the item you are giving them. This is why the gems give you rep for the company you turn them into and also why events that had us turning in kegs to the different companies gave us reputation for that company specifically and not the merchants.
@Octopus-Lime She only accepts captain chests, villainous skulls and, oddly enough, crates of silk (in addition to gifts, and reaper chests). I'm not completely sure if the silk crate is a mistake, since the spices are worth more in general.
@schwammlgott said in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
@burnbacon sagte in Not getting any reputation for turning in Chests at Masked Stranger:
Stranger isn't part of any Faction, why get Rep from someone who isn't part of it?
This! ☝️
And I said it before: we had an event, where we could sell gunpowder to the mysterious stranger and got rep for, surprise surprise, athenas...and not the merchants...
We sell stuff to the faction and get rep for it...
The mysterious stranger would be for the Athena "faction". Cause yanno... Athena rep.. You turned the gun powder into anyone and got their rep. You didn't turn gun powder into the gold hoarder and get merchant rep.
Summation of this thread is you didn't do your own due diligence and are upset you didn't get what you wanted. Understandable that you're upset but at this point it's just looking for someone to blame for something that should have been investigated better. The information is there. The fact that it was misunderstood or not even checked out is not on anyone else. Sorry.
@lord-szarvas
Jeeze, it seems like you come on here just to argue for the sake of arguing and you don't really add anything productive then to what we're talking about.
My favorite hobby.
Of course those items don't amount to Rep because you've described Bilge Rat items. Which, I don't remember for sure if some of those did give us rep as well.
Why would Bilge Rat give faction rep. to a Faction that doesn't have reputation gains?
Point is, when you're holding an Athenas chest and for 2 years when you turned those in you got rep for it, the player might expect some rep here as well. It would have been nice for a heads up from Rare but I guess people have to figure these things out for themselves..
Mega-Kegs at a time could be turned into Athena Rep when you turned them into their faction.
And for the record, if you wanna argue semantics, Athenas is not really a trading company (though the wiki does like to call it as such).
Quote a single time I ever referred to the Factions as Trading companies. If you look back you will see that I've always referred to them as Factions, so you are arguing things that never happened.
Again with your semantics. Athena is not a Trading Company (Faction- whatever you want to call it).
And I remember we turned in Order of Souls Relics for one of the Bilge Rat adventures. I cannot say if we got rep for them as I was already level 50 in OOS at the time. So, being maxed out in all the companies, I cannot say for sure what gave rep and what didn't. I can only assume it did.
