8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server

@dr-orchamedes are you from the other dudes post, if not, just know that this would break the game, it would be increadibly unfair for pvp, and would be unfair for pve aswell, we already discussed this in another thread an basically everyone agrees that this is a terrible idea

This is exactly the main reason why a lot of my friends DO NOT play SoT any more.

It's very difficult, if not impossible, to get onto the same server without being in the same crew.
Plus, if you have more than 3 friends who want to play together....this game makes it difficult for 5 or more friends to play together.
While this isn't overly rare for online games these days to have player #limits, it's just 😥😥😥.

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@dr-orchamedes are you from the other dudes post, if not, just know that this would break the game, it would be increadibly unfair for pvp, and would be unfair for pve aswell, we already discussed this in another thread an basically everyone agrees that this is a terrible idea

Don't put words in my mouth. I agree that it's a good idea, so deal with it

@dr-orchamedes To me, and my friends, this is a good idea. As many friends want to have their alliance commendations completed with people they can trust (esp the reaper alliance comm's, not to mention, Athena missions would be a breeze with crews you could trust to have your same interests in mind).

The new arena's wouldn't have allow this, and I can see how packs of pvp'rs 'could' ruin the world gameplay on players running only on the pve side. But it would be very nice to have more than 3 friends join the server because it's getting harder to find people willing to ally with, esp during the mornings/mid-day times (usa). Most people just want to be left alone to solo pve in peace at these times and can't trust the players willing to stab you in the back as a joke.
Since this topic seems to have been discussed before, I'm guessing Rare chooses not to deal with a big change like this. But this is one of the many reasons I don't play much anymore. I truly can't trust a rando crew not to screw with my gameplay, wasting time and loot just to reload into new servers, only to get screwed over again and again.

@dr-orchamedes now imagine being the solo on the other side of your fleet battle.

Additionally 2 ships is 1/3 of the server that you instantly control, there is no way you will betray each other and are just a single crew in essence. Each crew should have a single ship.

If you want to achieve this now, you can convince others to invite your friends and give them the ship.... maybe some gold could persuade them.

Yay, let's make a tool to ease the hassle of organized alliance servers!
(Sarcasm btw)

In the words of a "pirate" I met, who was very proud of his alliance takeovers: "If the devs don't want to make PvE servers, we'll form them ourselves. Even if it takes awhile to set up."

@dr-orchamedes said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

Got a few friends that all love love this game. However, we have a sad as we cannot successfully pre create an alliance and be in the same server instance to play together. Can we make this happen? (we have tried server hopping a lot, and that shiz is lame and too time consuming)

would anyone else be into this? Pre create alliances? maybe max 3 boats? 2 boats? thoughts?

There is a way to achieve this.

It's a bit of a pain, but I've managed it about 70% of the times I've tried.

Basically seek another crew in that server, I find voice communication is best, just be super cool, polite and maybe offer a little incentive.

Ask them if you can have their ship when they are finished, and get one of their crew to invite one member of your party to their game just before they leave, so that you can take over the vessel but maintain your current one.

Personally I think having more emphasis on alliances and having battles between alliances is interesting.

@davidhawk1 its a terrible idea, have you actually thought about it. plus i wasnt putting words in your mouth, i said most people, and that is clear by just reading the replies in this post

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@davidhawk1 its a terrible idea, have you actually thought about it. plus i wasnt putting words in your mouth, i said most people, and that is clear by just reading the replies in this post

I don't necessarily think it is, especially if they offer more incentive for alliance play, for example FOTD.

Sure it's possible to beat with a single crew, but it's much more efficient to alliance it for example.

Maybe do something interesting with the merchants alliance ? As that faction is pretty RIP.

@troubled-cells the ability to add your friends to your game is crazy, what happens when a solo sloop comes up against an 8 man crew, sure people can ally, but thats random, all based on chance, and there is still a lack of trust, and a lack of communication. to be able to invide other friends to your game is just unfair for everyone. they could ally up and farm athenas all day, if this went to being able to get up to 2 friends ships onto the one server imagine how op that would be, they would farm athena gold like its nothing. either way there is no way the devs would add this, its just way to unfair. sure they offer incentive for alliance play through FOTD but i still get in fights at the fort more often then i ally, and i probs end up being betrayed 1/4th of the time. i cant believe people would think this is a good idea. i mean are you guys for 6 ship alliance servers? i see that as an exploit of the alliance system.

Welcome to SoT.

No. That's a terrible idea.

It's so easy to get all your friends together. Just use:

1. A mic
2. Your imagination

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@troubled-cells the ability to add your friends to your game is crazy, what happens when a solo sloop comes up against an 8 man crew, sure people can ally, but thats random, all based on chance, and there is still a lack of trust, and a lack of communication. to be able to invide other friends to your game is just unfair for everyone. they could ally up and farm athenas all day, if this went to being able to get up to 2 friends ships onto the one server imagine how op that would be, they would farm athena gold like its nothing. either way there is no way the devs would add this, its just way to unfair. sure they offer incentive for alliance play through FOTD but i still get in fights at the fort more often then i ally, and i probs end up being betrayed 1/4th of the time. i cant believe people would think this is a good idea. i mean are you guys for 6 ship alliance servers? i see that as an exploit of the alliance system.

I get your point, but I feel like you are threating a bit too much.

Theres plenty of solutions.

Say limit alliance player numbers to 8 per alliance or by ship configuration, for example only 2 gallies, or instead 2 brigs and one slop or 4 sloops, to balance out the player counts so that entire servers just aren't straight up taken over. It would also make for some very interesting alliance battles.

To be honest if someone wants to take over a server currently, it really isn't that hard to do it, nothing is going to stop them, and a lot of players in my experience are fine with letting you have their ship once they are finished.

Way i see it is why not make it interesting and turn it in to a positive with lots of incentive.

@troubled-cells lies, it takes hours and hours to take over an entire server, and that is by just completely focussing on finding other players, i have seen people spend 3 hours only to get 4 ships on one server. the way some people do it on discord, is to just invite someone friendly from the discord into the game when they want to leave, so that a new unfriendly person doesnt take that spot. either way this can take days till they finally collect a whole server, if they even doo.

and limmiting alliance numbers only fixes this alliance exploit, however adding the ability to easily invite friends into your game on another ship is broken. like i said imagine coming up gainst 2 galleons all while solo slooping. these guys would destroy you, it is way different from alliances, because there is way less communication with alliances and lol i have already said all this, just read my first post.

all im gonna say is, this is already possible, lets not make it easy for people to do this, cause it does create an unfair, unballanced exploitable environment. if people really want to do this, they should be forced to have to find other players on the sea to give them their ship, we should not provide them with the ability to just invite friends into new ships on the same server.

@niqsun not even that, people would exploit it for pve aswell if not more, anyone with a crew would use this to do 2-4 athenas at a time, just instead of inviting your friends onto your own ship, invite them onto their own, and let them all do them at once, and boom all of a sudden they are farming rep and gold like its nothing. why on earth would we want to make this easy to do.

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@niqsun not even that, people would exploit it for pve aswell if not more, anyone with a crew would use this to do 2-4 athenas at a time, just instead of inviting your friends onto your own ship, invite them onto their own, and let them all do them at once, and boom all of a sudden they are farming rep and gold like its nothing. why on earth would we want to make this easy to do.

The exploit was put in for easy rep the day those letters of recommendation were installed. At least this way they still have to grind it out and still be on their toes for those that still want to sink them.

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@davidhawk1 its a terrible idea, have you actually thought about it. plus i wasnt putting words in your mouth, i said most people, and that is clear by just reading the replies in this post

Yes I have, but if I was more into pvp I still wouldn't care because I might not even see the PvE players in my server at all.

Also you didn't say "most" people, you said 'basically everybody'

@inboundbomb lul wut, you call it a grind having 4 people doing 4 seperate athenas. ROFL sounds 4 times faster to me, also, everyone can do this, letters of rep cost something, and not everyone uses them, i have never used a letter of rep and i dont know many of people who have, i feel most of us save the money for special skins. also just because their is one thing that is bad doesnt mean we should add more bad things. like are you for real? furthermore i feel like it would be easier to lvl up doing 4 athenas at once then it would be to try and complete commendations to earn the damn blue coins that i forgot what they are called. also there are other reasons to do these missions like actually completing the commendations that come with athenas, or other missions. also being able to invite friends onto other ships would make actually aquiring dabloons easier, therefore it would magnify how easy it already is to buy letters of rep

@davidhawk1 basically-roughly-most= same thing mate, doesnt really matter. also what are you talking about with pve players??. what on earth, do you know what the topic is about?

if you were more into pvp you wouldnt care cause you might not see pve players????? huh???

as a pvp player seeing less pve players is bad anyways. none of this makes sense

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@davidhawk1 basically-roughly-most= same thing mate, doesnt really matter. also what are you talking about with pve players??. what on earth, do you know what the topic is about?

if you were more into pvp you wouldnt care cause you might not see pve players????? huh???

as a pvp player seeing less pve players is bad anyways. none of this makes sense

I couldn't care because there is literally no difference between PvE players and PvP players in THIS game, all players have at least done both to some degree. You'd have to, or just quit and go play something else. Change my mind.

I agree that it would be super fun. I've always been a supporter of private servers (but let's not start that discussion here), and I would love to play on a server that just has all my friends on it. We could play together as a team, or we could challenge each other and mess each other up! :D

I have 4 friends who play the game with me and it sucks when there's not enough room for 1 more person.

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@inboundbomb lul wut, you call it a grind having 4 people doing 4 seperate athenas. ROFL sounds 4 times faster to me, also, everyone can do this, letters of rep cost something, and not everyone uses them, i have never used a letter of rep and i dont know many of people who have, i feel most of us save the money for special skins. also just because their is one thing that is bad doesnt mean we should add more bad things. like are you for real? furthermore i feel like it would be easier to lvl up doing 4 athenas at once then it would be to try and complete commendations to earn the damn blue coins that i forgot what they are called. also there are other reasons to do these missions like actually completing the commendations that come with athenas, or other missions. also being able to invite friends onto other ships would make actually aquiring dabloons easier, therefore it would magnify how easy it already is to buy letters of rep

Laugh all you want because it is all a joke. It's all easy......can you just not see it and accept it? I was PL BEFORE the letters, alliances and whatever else that boosted those players to PL and was already Athena 5. I'm at 4,100 Doubloons ( those little blue coins that don't mean squat) over 2.3 million for the 5th or 6th time. I am for real because in the end I play it my way with my rules not yours nor any other player out there. Commendations only count for the crew that does them and people cheese them on the daily as well so what about that? They finally then fixed the disparity of the LVL up by (after over a year of this crud) putting a limitation by only LVL up once a month but in the end it's only a title and a cosmetic. If players have it good if not great. I disagree with a lot of things that Rare put in this game ( a lot of bad things in my opinion) since the Beta but I keep playing and adapt to whatever may comes. Can you? I want to put my friends on 2 boats because it is fun...…. all of 8 us PL LVL10 just having fun because it's fun with friends and more the merrier.

Instantly controlling a third of the server isn't fair for people playing on one ship. It is as simple as that.

You could easily hop on a server, wipe out other ships who are solo and then jump to another server. The odds aren't fair for people not in an alliance. Alliances are already an issue when formed but have the chance of backfire from people being greedy. Giving players this opportunity opens up the possibility of abuse outside the normal realms of acceptance.

@galactic-geek said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

I wish I had too many friends... 🙄

What am I? Driftwood? lol

@d4m0r3d said in 8 friends 2 Boats 1 Server:

@troubled-cells lies, it takes hours and hours to take over an entire server, and that is by just completely focussing on finding other players, i have seen people spend 3 hours only to get 4 ships on one server. the way some people do it on discord, is to just invite someone friendly from the discord into the game when they want to leave, so that a new unfriendly person doesnt take that spot. either way this can take days till they finally collect a whole server, if they even doo.

and limmiting alliance numbers only fixes this alliance exploit, however adding the ability to easily invite friends into your game on another ship is broken. like i said imagine coming up gainst 2 galleons all while solo slooping. these guys would destroy you, it is way different from alliances, because there is way less communication with alliances and lol i have already said all this, just read my first post.

all im gonna say is, this is already possible, lets not make it easy for people to do this, cause it does create an unfair, unballanced exploitable environment. if people really want to do this, they should be forced to have to find other players on the sea to give them their ship, we should not provide them with the ability to just invite friends into new ships on the same server.

Nope sorry, I still disagree.

My own experiences say otherwise to your claims.

If theres enough incentive I see no issue if its managed correctly, afterall it is a multiplayer focussed game.