Legendary Sword Reward

  • I was going through all the rewards I can unlock and came across Legendary Sword reward. Come to realize you need to play arena and have 240 win!!!!!????? What kind of mess is this? I don’t like this one bit. I haven’t played one match of arena and not planing on it either. Why not make it earnable for Adventure mode as well?

    Plus if there was ever a want to go play arena it would be like a waste of time..... all I hear is people complaining how long it takes to get into a match.

    Edit: I would also like to add I’m not trying to devalue the reward or anything. I love grinding and love it being hard grinding for stuff. If it wasn’t the basic “legendary gear” looking stuff I wouldn’t have any issues with it.

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  • I'm happy it requires such an investment. Too many of the rewards are easy to get. When I see someone with that sword, I immediately realize and respect the accomplishment.

  • @sammyr0cks yes, of course. I wasn’t trying to devalue a reward. I love a good grind. But why make is only obtainable there? I don’t play that mode. :(

  • @demon9017 said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @sammyr0cks yes, of course. I wasn’t trying to devalue a reward. I love a good grind. But why make is only obtainable there? I don’t play that mode. :(

    Because its linked to the sea dogs faction which is essentially the pvp / arena faction.

  • A lot of us complained about this already when Arena was still in Insider. And I still maintain that the cosmetics for arena should be entirely separate and not double-dip into adventure mode sets.

  • @demon9017 said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    I was going through all the rewards I can unlock and came across Legendary Sword reward. Come to realize you need to play arena and have 240 win!!!!!????? What kind of mess is this? I don’t like this one bit. I haven’t played one match of arena and not planing on it either. Why not make it earnable for Adventure mode as well?

    Plus if there was ever a want to go play arena it would be like a waste of time..... all I hear is people complaining how long it takes to get into a match.

    Agreed! I would like all the items that are stuck behind that game mode but like you I don't like it as well. I came to play Sea of Thieves not The Lake of Arena. Adventure all the way! They will just be items I will never get.

  • @Demon9017

    Rewards are there to reward those that do the challenge. You can choose whether it is worth it or not, up your alley. Having some major items for Arena makes sense and weapons do suit the mode.

    The game wants to promote both modes to some degree and not everything needs to be available in Adventure. Legends should represent those that do everything the game has to offer and is why they placed it there as a motivator.

    Though I do hope they fix matchmaking soon, cause now it isn't worth trying.

  • @cotu42 yea as my time is limited as it is I wouldn’t even head over there. If I can get in and out seamlessly then I may think about going for it. I was talking with FrankieonPCin1080p a couple weeks ago and he said its still horrible wait times. Sometimes almost up to a hour. That’s crazy

  • @demon9017 mostly because Rare are making a pathetic bid with arena and their tournaments to get into esports, and need to try to drive up the player numbers to make their god awful new mode look like a success.

  • @demon9017

    Eh, it's only fair. You can't unlock any of the Tall Tale cosmetics in Arena mode, so it only makes since to have a few vice versa.

  • I'm in the "looks like I'm not getting those" squad. No worries. 🤷🏽‍♀️🧜🏽‍♀️

  • As much as i respect the effort needed to obtain the rewards and truly feel the game as a whole needs many more harder to reach achievements.

    Lets not kid yourself's into thinking they were put in the Arena because Rare felt them best deserving to be there, they were put there as a reward for long time players when the Arena was introduced as it had no such rewards for those players when launched.

    I too have come to the conclusion they are just items i won't be obtaining, not because i can't, but because i choose not to play a game mode i dislike.

  • @demon9017 yup I finally hit my 240 wins 2 days ago but by god those wait times were horrible, thank god for sloop arena it is not nearly as bad in their, there were some nights I logged on for 5 hours and got about 5 games in, thats a half hour wait between each game like, Then say you win 3 out of 5. 5 hours gone, 3 wins to show for it. quite....the.....grind. I do like arena though just hate the wait.

  • I'm in the I'm not even going to think about grinding for those camp re: the PL weapons. I'd like them, definitely, but I dislike Arena far more than I like the weapons. Which is a little unfair tbh, because I don't hate the actual matches, they can be fun. I hate the time it takes to get a match and the fact that maybe 1/5 matches are entertaining and tense and 4/5 are not.

    I'd prefer if it were more of a TDM or Conquest type mode. I think, but even with those, 30 - 45 minutes between matches kills any enjoyment I get from the matches themselves. I really shouldn't need a netflix subscription to keep me occupied in between matches.

  • @boxcar-squidy Yup I tried to find ways to entertain myself, I would get on top of that little tip right in front of the helm, and ask the lobby to join me then drink a grog, last one to fall off the tip wins, other times we see who can get on top of the meg head without using cannon the fastest, other times we simply all walk around playing instruments in a line like a marching band, other times I simply ran in circles over and over trying to not fall off the railings. god....I spent too much damn time in that lobby. And now there is gonna be new commendations today lol!! back to it I guess.....:(

  • Ugh, it’s like I spend my time here praising Rare, and then immediately slating their design choices. They’re going to lock a legendary cosmetic behind a game mode for a faction that doesn’t count towards becoming a Pirate Legend?... Who the hell makes these decisions?

    IMO the Arena sucks. I wouldn’t mind if there were more than one mode, but 240 wins in a mode that has lengthy waiting times and matchmaking issues? Suppose I’ll just have to pass this one by...

    Honestly Rare, just honestly! Arena should not be dipping into cosmetics that belong in adventure, and vice versa. Stop trying to shoehorn people in there! Make it better, make more modes (PvP with no ships on a small island - just a bunch of pirate crews running amok killing each other, PvP in which the sole focus is to sink ships, and so on) but for goodness sake, quit trying to incentivise us to play it, and make us ‘want’ to play it.

  • Yeah, I’m not a fan of the legendary weapons being tied to arena. I play both modes, but legend status and the rest of the cosmetics are all adventure based. It’s odd that the weapons are stuck behind arena achievements. Also the win total is a bit too high. I know they should be hard to get but I don’t think people realize how many hours of arena it takes to earn them. I mean even assuming a 100% win rate you’re basically looking at 136 hours of arena. (24 minute round + 10 minute avg. lobby wait time * 240 rounds = 136 hours). Change the win % down to even just 70% and you’re now talking about 194 hours spent in arena to unlock them. That’s an awful lot considering arena really is a side mode compared to adventure. I get that the change down to 100 was too low, but maybe it should have only been bumped back up to like 150 or 175.

  • @kaloudz Hey I have yet to test arena since new update as I have been focusing on adventure but for what its worth in rares new youtube weekly update they said matchmaking has been fixed. Heres hoping :)

  • Makes no sense it's tied into arena...

  • @terron29 said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @kaloudz Hey I have yet to test arena since new update as I have been focusing on adventure but for what its worth in rares new youtube weekly update they said matchmaking has been fixed. Heres hoping :)

    Only took a few months eh? lol! Thanks for letting us know my friend, hopefully it’s a lot more stable than it has been, and more importantl, more populated...

  • @masterbetty89 said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    Makes no sense it's tied into arena...

    I kind of agree.

    You can get to PL without so much as setting foot in Arena. You can't get to PL from Arena alone. In Adventure PL's get Athena voyages and access to the VIP lounge. In Arena PL confers no benefits.

    Ergo, PL is a title that only relates to Adventure and all PL goodies should be obtainable there and there alone.

    They should make a Legendary Sea Dog title for Level 50 Sea Dogs and have a set of weapons and cosmetics linked to Arena commendations just for them.

    I also think there should be Arena challenges, which work like voyages and award rep + gold. They should set a challenge for the crew for the match like: set 4 pirates on fire, dig up 5 chests, turn in 4x stolen chests, kill X number of pirates with Y weapon, etc.

    These challenges shouldn't effect the match win, but be additional objectives for gold and rep. This way, even if you're way behind, there are reasons to stay for the entire match.

    Have DeMarco and his sis sell them to people in the Tavern between matches.

  • Stop crying. It's a pvp related mode and IT makes totally sense that the weapons are tied to that mode. I have achieved everything before the newest update and yes it took alot of time. Instead of being lazy and complain about it is too much time required to spend to achieve it, play it instead, if not you guys simply dont want it hard enough. It's the only real challenge left which is not being nerfed by crybabies and shall stay that way. The end.

  • Its simple:

    Sea dogs is part of the factions now and all that faction cares about is Arena.

    While the first batches of Pirate legends (including me) only had merchant, OoS or GH to deal with now you can completely ignor Merchant for instance and just grind Arena and still get to pirate legend.

    The weapon cosmetics have been tied into arena and it seems a good fit.

    Yes 240 wins is alot, but two wins a day/week keeps the doctor at away.

  • @callmebackdraft said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    Its simple:

    Sea dogs is part of the factions now and all that faction cares about is Arena.

    While the first batches of Pirate legends (including me) only had merchant, OoS or GH to deal with now you can completely ignor Merchant for instance and just grind Arena and still get to pirate legend.

    The weapon cosmetics have been tied into arena and it seems a good fit.

    Yes 240 wins is alot, but two wins a day/week keeps the doctor at away.

    Think about the math of what you just said though. 2 wins a day means you have at least 8 hours/week to put towards arena and it will still take 4 months. Once again that would assume a 100% win rate. That’s a lot for most people without even factoring in people also want to play adventure because that’s where most new content goes, some of which is time limited and so needs to be prioritized.

  • @snowboarderx115 what i meant to say by that is that it shouldnt be a race, i did race and i got my 240 wins, never missed any time limited content either but thats just me but i went from loving arena to absolutely despising it since its the same damn thing over and over again, it just needs new game modes to stay interesting.

    You can do one two or three wins a day or per week or per month it wil just take you longer it is not time limited so all the time in the world

    How much time does it cost to get:

    250 gh voyages completed (especially higher level ones)

    250 oos voyages completed

    500 cargo crates delivered (als has cosmetics tied behind it)

    500 animals delivered

    1000 miles in athena, OoS, GH and merchant (so 4000 miles) wich also have cosmetics behind them

  • @raza-longknife said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    Stop crying. It's a pvp related mode and IT makes totally sense that the weapons are tied to that mode. I have achieved everything before the newest update and yes it took alot of time. Instead of being lazy and complain about it is too much time required to spend to achieve it, play it instead, if not you guys simply dont want it hard enough. It's the only real challenge left which is not being nerfed by crybabies and shall stay that way. The end.

    Brandishing many a player here by calling them crybabies and lazy is poor form, totally uncalled for, and shows your disregard for your fellow players.

    The problem here is that Arena has generated its own stigma through bad execution, technical issues, and lengthy waiting times. Furthermore, and in the opinion of a fair few, it’s not all that interesting.

    Tying a legendary piece to the mode (when the bulk of said gear is earned in adventure) is a clear attempt from Rare to try and shoehorn people into playing it in order to max out their legendary outfits. It’d be like seeing Sea Dog gear handed out for killing an X amount of pirates in adventure. It just doesn’t fit.

    IMO - Legendary stuff belongs in adventure. Sea Dog stuff belongs in arena. There’s no reason whatsoever to brand many here as lazy or unbecoming for simply disliking a rather silly design choice, which is exactly what this is.

  • @kaloudz said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @raza-longknife said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    Stop crying. It's a pvp related mode and IT makes totally sense that the weapons are tied to that mode. I have achieved everything before the newest update and yes it took alot of time. Instead of being lazy and complain about it is too much time required to spend to achieve it, play it instead, if not you guys simply dont want it hard enough. It's the only real challenge left which is not being nerfed by crybabies and shall stay that way. The end.

    Brandishing many a player here by calling them crybabies and lazy is poor form, totally uncalled for, and shows your disregard for your fellow players.

    The problem here is that Arena has generated its own stigma through bad execution, technical issues, and lengthy waiting times. Furthermore, and in the opinion of a fair few, it’s not all that interesting.

    Tying a legendary piece to the mode (when the bulk of said gear is earned in adventure) is a clear attempt from Rare to try and shoehorn people into playing it in order to max out their legendary outfits. It’d be like seeing Sea Dog gear handed out for killing an X amount of pirates in adventure. It just doesn’t fit.

    IMO - Legendary stuff belongs in adventure. Sea Dog stuff belongs in arena. There’s no reason whatsoever to brand many here as lazy or unbecoming for simply disliking a rather silly design choice, which is exactly what this is.

    Also there's been more times than I can count when I've run into a group of extremely toxic/abusive players in arena, since then I have avoided it fully in fear of that toxicity only becoming worse.

  • @xilky-karr said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @kaloudz said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @raza-longknife said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    Stop crying. It's a pvp related mode and IT makes totally sense that the weapons are tied to that mode. I have achieved everything before the newest update and yes it took alot of time. Instead of being lazy and complain about it is too much time required to spend to achieve it, play it instead, if not you guys simply dont want it hard enough. It's the only real challenge left which is not being nerfed by crybabies and shall stay that way. The end.

    Brandishing many a player here by calling them crybabies and lazy is poor form, totally uncalled for, and shows your disregard for your fellow players.

    The problem here is that Arena has generated its own stigma through bad execution, technical issues, and lengthy waiting times. Furthermore, and in the opinion of a fair few, it’s not all that interesting.

    Tying a legendary piece to the mode (when the bulk of said gear is earned in adventure) is a clear attempt from Rare to try and shoehorn people into playing it in order to max out their legendary outfits. It’d be like seeing Sea Dog gear handed out for killing an X amount of pirates in adventure. It just doesn’t fit.

    IMO - Legendary stuff belongs in adventure. Sea Dog stuff belongs in arena. There’s no reason whatsoever to brand many here as lazy or unbecoming for simply disliking a rather silly design choice, which is exactly what this is.

    Also there's been more times than I can count when I've run into a group of extremely toxic/abusive players in arena, since then I have avoided it fully in fear of that toxicity only becoming worse.

    I’m with you 110% there. That’s one of the many reasons I refuse to play. On top of the fact that it’s just boring, unbalanced, and, to be totally honest, inferior to the dynamic PvP action in adventure.

  • @kaloudz Agreed

  • @kaloudz said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @raza-longknife said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    Stop crying. It's a pvp related mode and IT makes totally sense that the weapons are tied to that mode. I have achieved everything before the newest update and yes it took alot of time. Instead of being lazy and complain about it is too much time required to spend to achieve it, play it instead, if not you guys simply dont want it hard enough. It's the only real challenge left which is not being nerfed by crybabies and shall stay that way. The end.

    Brandishing many a player here by calling them crybabies and lazy is poor form, totally uncalled for, and shows your disregard for your fellow players.

    The problem here is that Arena has generated its own stigma through bad execution, technical issues, and lengthy waiting times. Furthermore, and in the opinion of a fair few, it’s not all that interesting.

    Tying a legendary piece to the mode (when the bulk of said gear is earned in adventure) is a clear attempt from Rare to try and shoehorn people into playing it in order to max out their legendary outfits. It’d be like seeing Sea Dog gear handed out for killing an X amount of pirates in adventure. It just doesn’t fit.

    IMO - Legendary stuff belongs in adventure. Sea Dog stuff belongs in arena. There’s no reason whatsoever to brand many here as lazy or unbecoming for simply disliking a rather silly design choice, which is exactly what this is.

    If you don't make yourself a name at the sea dogs - can you then truely call yourself a "Legend"? I don't think it is silly, the waiting times are horrible mostly, players these Days find it just easier to cry about something they find hard/unfair to achieve because the devs are asking too much from their playerbase... I by default likes to take Up a challenge and complete it, do that instead blaming the mode for its flaws.

  • I also feel that these items should be available in adventure, but for a different reason:
    Im in Australia, and arena has no Australian servers. 240 wins, while playing at 300 ping north America or 400 ping Europe is infuriating. Unless i abandon my Aussie crew and join a random squad of arena warriors, those weapons are never going to be mine.

    Those weapons arent walled off behind arena, they are straight up walled off entirely.

    Maybe add an adventure unlock. Sink 750 player ships. Kill 1000 players. Sell 2000 stolen items. I dont know really, but something!

  • @pomalotacusmk3 or Rare should just make australian servers instead.

  • @raza-longknife
    Its been mentioned plenty of times, but rare are silent.
    We have adventure servers, so it cant be too hard.
    But if they wont, i'd like to see an alternate unlock path.

  • @raza-longknife let us know how your social life is. You married with kids and have a full-time job?
    Try getting those done So easily if you have all of those tied to your “in real life”.

  • @raza-longknife said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @kaloudz said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    @raza-longknife said in Legendary Sword Reward:

    Stop crying. It's a pvp related mode and IT makes totally sense that the weapons are tied to that mode. I have achieved everything before the newest update and yes it took alot of time. Instead of being lazy and complain about it is too much time required to spend to achieve it, play it instead, if not you guys simply dont want it hard enough. It's the only real challenge left which is not being nerfed by crybabies and shall stay that way. The end.

    Brandishing many a player here by calling them crybabies and lazy is poor form, totally uncalled for, and shows your disregard for your fellow players.

    The problem here is that Arena has generated its own stigma through bad execution, technical issues, and lengthy waiting times. Furthermore, and in the opinion of a fair few, it’s not all that interesting.

    Tying a legendary piece to the mode (when the bulk of said gear is earned in adventure) is a clear attempt from Rare to try and shoehorn people into playing it in order to max out their legendary outfits. It’d be like seeing Sea Dog gear handed out for killing an X amount of pirates in adventure. It just doesn’t fit.

    IMO - Legendary stuff belongs in adventure. Sea Dog stuff belongs in arena. There’s no reason whatsoever to brand many here as lazy or unbecoming for simply disliking a rather silly design choice, which is exactly what this is.

    If you don't make yourself a name at the sea dogs - can you then truely call yourself a "Legend"? I don't think it is silly, the waiting times are horrible mostly, players these Days find it just easier to cry about something they find hard/unfair to achieve because the devs are asking too much from their playerbase... I by default likes to take Up a challenge and complete it, do that instead blaming the mode for its flaws.

    So, those of us that are PLs, and don’t touch the arena, are not true PLs? Sure... I hit PL status the grindy way, back in year one. I would consider ANYONE that has achieved PL status in any other way, my PL equal.

    I don’t care if someone allied their way to PL, used gems alone, or even paid their way through old Duke, they’re a PL equal through and through. We don’t need none of that labeled nor divided nonsense here thanks.

    Players here offer, for the most part, constructive feedback. That doesn’t make them crybabies. Just because their views don’t align with yours, doesn’t give you the right to label folk.

    Hell, if you follow my posts, you’ll see I’ve been asking for Rare to make the game more difficult in adventure, exponentially more difficult...

    Back to arena, I’m not blaming the mode for its flaws, I’m blaming Rare. I will call Rare out for poor design, poor design choices, and anything in between. IMO, both arena and the choice to slam a legendary cosmetic behind it, is befitting of that feedback.

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