Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ?

I like it... although I do not need it at this point, each time I play, I feel like it has been way more rewarding. I use to solo a year ago and I would be lucky to have 2 grand in an hour. It was really tedious. The whole point is to make sure people have treasure on their boats. Sinking people has been so much more rewarding lately. The game is sea of thieves and RARE has made it so there is always something to thieve which really hasn't been the case honestly. So it really is a good change. Everyone who responded above is looking at this from the wrong perspective.

I like it, but it needs to be toned down. All of the washed-up loot needs to be toned down...

There used to be some actual excitement around finding loot just on the beach. Then they added it below the water, which was still exciting as you had to get out and look around more but there was no guarantee. A few updates later, I can now find 3-5 items on every island, there is no excitement. Now we are seeing 1-5 items in the Barrels of Plenty, and occasionally (rarely) nothing. This is just too much!

@xcalypt0x a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

@fractal-pitch I'm fine with the loot being there and I'm fine with the gunpowder being there. I think it makes it feel more like an actual group of ship supplies lost at sea.

However, I do wish the high tier loot was excluded... IMO it should only be bottom 2 tier loot (castaway, seafarer, foul, disgraced, sugar, tea).

Yeah, we agree on that. Everything above those you mentioned is too much in my opinion. If not removed, I think they should be toned down.

@acebead40319154 a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

I like it... although I do not need it at this point, each time I play, I feel like it has been way more rewarding. I use to solo a year ago and I would be lucky to have 2 grand in an hour. It was really tedious. The whole point is to make sure people have treasure on their boats. Sinking people has been so much more rewarding lately. The game is sea of thieves and RARE has made it so there is always something to thieve which really hasn't been the case honestly. So it really is a good change. Everyone who responded above is looking at this from the wrong perspective.

Well I mentioned this point in my original post, but I just think the amount, the frequency and the kind of loot you can find with the barrels of plenty is just too much.

@acebead40319154 I'm 100% with you here man. Ships actually having loot on them has been a game changer. No more of the old days, chasing a ship for an hour, thinking they had loot, but nah they were just scared of pvp for whatever reason....

For me, as I'm still slowly grinding away towards Pirate Legend and getting my factions up to 50 legit without buying levels with doubloons or asking for 'Athena drops' etc, I love the Barrels of Plenty. It's exciting to be sailing and suddenly there's barrels coming up on your side, hurry up and get the anchor dropped, jump over and see what treasure there is. These random drops with the barrels are fun and are helping towards Pirate Legend. Except for the one time they spawned right in front of our ship and we only saw them as we were going right over them. And there was a gunpowder barrel in them, which blew the front of my ship, triggering the other gunpowder barrels I had in the front of my ship... insta-killing me and my partner and sinking my ship. Went from sailing without a worry to finding myself respawned on a new island and lost all my fish and supplies lol. 🤔😅 Either way, I'm enjoying them a lot and appreciate the loot spawning with them. 😊

@fractal-pitch yes we should have loot everywhere. One of the issues with the game is the lack of loot being carried on player ships. So when pvp happens there is nothing to loose or gain. Having loot everywhere changes this.

I also think it's too much. Every bunch of barrels on the sea has loot. It should be something rare.

What happened with the gems? I'm ok with them spawning in shipwrecks or forts, but now just floating there. What is the point of the mermaid statues now? I've even found a mega keg in a shipwreck.

Whased up loot in the shores was exciting. Now it's too common to even bother.

Have been having this very discussion offline with my crew mates and we all agree that it's a step too far!
Why bother with the fort, the meg or the pvp ship glowing like a Christmas tree when yon can just sail around for a few mins and pull in a good haul.

Yes, we are still grinding for pirate legend and enjoying the adventures we are creating to get there. But the loot floating amongst the barrels, although helpful, will make that pirate legend a hollow victory in the end.

I'd rather Rare put more random treasure in caves on islands or washed up on the beach or in the wrecks, if their intent is to fast track pirates to legend.

Put the loot where you feel rewarded! Do not hand it to me on a plate.

@nwo-azcrack also this.

But why bother to defeat a meg, or break a mermaid statue when you can find loot & gems everywhere??

More loot around, more loot to steal. We all get it... But we need people to get engaged and feel rewarded. Otherwise is like, meh, I lost loot, since I just found it while sailing, it doesn't matter at all.

The neo PL haven't barely fight to raid a fort. We are creating lazy pirates hahaha (I sound like a father).

I remember those days when forts were exciting, sinking like 10 ships, or getting sunk several times in battles that last 2-3h. That was a blast! Now I sound like a grandfather haha.

@sweltering-nick a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

@fractal-pitch said in Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ?:

Hi, since I haven't seen any thread recently talking about this in here, I'm just going to create one and copy/paste (ok, not true, I'm modifying some things) what I've wrote on another topic:

I Just spent the day on the seas with a friend and the amount of loot found with the barrels is just completely insane.
Seriously you encounter loot every 300 meters, that's just plain ridiculous... And the loot fund can be high-tier loot or ruby mermaid gems.
What's the point for the new players to do any voyage at all ? You don't have to do anything to get a huge amount of loot !
You don't even have to play versus the environment !
You just move and you get rewarded for that !
At one point, there even were barrels with loot not 10m from an oupost...
Where's the glory in that ?

I personally really really hate this change.
I don't see the point in it besides giving everyone loot so that everyone has something to lose when encountering another player.
But doing that is a step in the wrong direction, I think.

1 minute salty rant activated
Honestly at this point, they can just spawn loot on the outposts where we spawn.
Just think about it... Maybe we can just stop using the boat ! That way, we just stay on land at the outposts !
1 minute salty rant de-activated (sorry I had to get it out)

Am I the only one here that thinks the same ?

Hmm....

Well, they spawn loot, sure, but they also spawn gunpowder barrels... there's a risk to it, ESPECIALLY if the one sailing the ship doesn't pay attention to where the barrels are, they could easily get randomly bombed in the middle of trying to escape other pirates...

Now, to avoid this, the sailors have to actually pay attention to the seagulls above the barrels, in order to steer out of the way in time to avoid getting potentially bombed by barrel spawns... This slows your ship down a bit, which makes chasing other ships, much more fun, and interesting, seeing as now, you actually have a chance to catch up to those sloops sailing against the wind, or those galleons sailing with the wind, etc.

It's not about the treasure, or gold... It's about the glory, the fun. ;)

I hope this helped you see this update from a new perspective. Maybe now it makes more sense to you? ;3

Well, it's a bad ratio risk/reward if you ask me since the amount of time I found kegs in the barrels was pretty low, compared to the amount of loot (and their high value) that was present.

I know it's about the glory and I precisely think that having absolutely nothing to do to get rewarded isn't glorious at all. Just moving shouldn't reward you, especially that much.

@william-flint a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

@fractal-pitch yes we should have loot everywhere. One of the issues with the game is the lack of loot being carried on player ships. So when pvp happens there is nothing to loose or gain. Having loot everywhere changes this.

I'm sorry, I really don't understand this argument. I pvp almost every session and 80% of the time, the other boats I was sinking before the update had loot ! :)

And, as I said, I think giving that much loot on a silver plate like that is really a step in the wrong direction...

@nwo-azcrack a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

@fractal-pitch
I dont think the problem is to much loot.

Its that we have nothing to spend gold on.

Or else we would all be broke and out there killin eachother over every piece.

Good point. I'd love a good gold sink to be honest !

I love that theres loot everywhere.
Now when you encounter ship, they always have loot on them to steal

@xcalypt0x said in Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ?:

@fractal-pitch I'm fine with the loot being there and I'm fine with the gunpowder being there. I think it makes it feel more like an actual group of ship supplies lost at sea.

However, I do wish the high tier loot was excluded... IMO it should only be bottom 2 tier loot (castaway, seafarer, foul, disgraced, sugar, tea).

I actually like that there is high tier loot. It makes it even more worth it to sink someone or get sunk. I don't want to fight just for trash loot. But if I know people are carrying the good stuff, then it's worth it.

The biggest issue is NOT the amount of loot there is to find nor the amount of things there are to do now. The biggest issue is there is NOTHING TO SPEND MONEY ON.

I agree with the posts here about us just needing more to spend the gold on. I know there are people with millions upon millions of gold, but I've been spending mine on ship and personal cosmetics to get everything I've wanted in the last 2-3 months of playing, and now I'm pretty much set on what I have. So my gold is adding up now and I'm somewhere in the neighborhood of 800K, which is a lot for me lol. The only thing I'm looking forward to now is when I hit Pirate Legend soon, having new cosmetics opened up to me in the Pirate Hideaway as I work towards unlocking those. But otherwise, yes, we need things to spend the money on. We need options upon options, so many options and so much stuff to choose from, that it makes you want to search out in the waters for these barrels of plenty and get everything you can, and fight other pirates for them too. :)

@spiralout46and2 a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

I agree with the posts here about us just needing more to spend the gold on. I know there are people with millions upon millions of gold, but I've been spending mine on ship and personal cosmetics to get everything I've wanted in the last 2-3 months of playing, and now I'm pretty much set on what I have. So my gold is adding up now and I'm somewhere in the neighborhood of 800K, which is a lot for me lol. The only thing I'm looking forward to now is when I hit Pirate Legend soon, having new cosmetics opened up to me in the Pirate Hideaway as I work towards unlocking those. But otherwise, yes, we need things to spend the money on. We need options upon options, so many options and so much stuff to choose from, that it makes you want to search out in the waters for these barrels of plenty and get everything you can, and fight other pirates for them too. :)

Yup, we need a gold sink, on that I agree.
I'm sitting on 1,7 million gold, I bought EVERY equipment, clothes and weapon, a few ship cosmetics and I have all the Athena ship skin (not the legendary ones yet). I calculated that I need 3.168.100 million to buy what I haven't bought yet. And I know this won't be difficult to achieve. After that... Well I sure hope a gold sink is on the way :D

@grindtony45 a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

I love that theres loot everywhere.
Now when you encounter ship, they always have loot on them to steal

Well, I like that everyone has loot when you sink them but 80% of the time, it was already the case before in my experience.
I just don't think that giving loot like this is the way to go. It's just too much. I don't know, the game kinda always relied on a good risk/reward ratio and with loot floating on the water like that... It just seems too easy :(

@fractal-pitch said in Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ?:

@spiralout46and2 a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

I agree with the posts here about us just needing more to spend the gold on. I know there are people with millions upon millions of gold, but I've been spending mine on ship and personal cosmetics to get everything I've wanted in the last 2-3 months of playing, and now I'm pretty much set on what I have. So my gold is adding up now and I'm somewhere in the neighborhood of 800K, which is a lot for me lol. The only thing I'm looking forward to now is when I hit Pirate Legend soon, having new cosmetics opened up to me in the Pirate Hideaway as I work towards unlocking those. But otherwise, yes, we need things to spend the money on. We need options upon options, so many options and so much stuff to choose from, that it makes you want to search out in the waters for these barrels of plenty and get everything you can, and fight other pirates for them too. :)

Yup, we need a gold sink, on that I agree.
I'm sitting on 1,7 million gold, I bought EVERY equipment, clothes and weapon, a few ship cosmetics and I have all the Athena ship skin (not the legendary ones yet). I calculated that I need 3.168.100 million to buy what I haven't bought yet. And I know this won't be difficult to achieve. After that... Well I sure hope a gold sink is on the way :D

Yes lol. :) I think I'm heading in your direction, as I'm looking forward to the Athena ship skin once I hit Pirate Legend soon. I have that and the Legendary stuff to work towards. But once I get that, as of right now in the game, there's really nothing more that I want or need. Now my gold is adding up and in the coming months I'm sure I'll be like you with millions of gold lol. 💰 What we need is a massive list in the Emporium, like lots of things to choose from. Since we can't customize our character and we are stuck with the character we choose when we start the game for the first time, then we need lots of customizable options. For the ship as well, and equipment and weapons etc. And some of it should be really, really cool looking stuff for a lot of gold so that those with 3, 5, 7 million gold will have something worthy of spending it on. I want to look in the Emporium and literally find myself going back and forth between a dozen things and saying, "I don't know what to get!" Lol. 😲😅👍😎😁🎉

I did saw your post, if you actually paid attention to your own topic, you would have noticed that I even responded but I thought your topic wasn't exactly on the same subject as what I wanted to discuss.
Your topic main subject is:
@galactic-geek a dit dans Loot! Loot Everywhere!!! :

So, why are there boats still sailing out there without loot? Theoretically, unless they just started their session or dropped off what they had, a ship should always have loot on board.

So this brings me to 2 questions for discussion:

1. Why are more players not attacking others to steal their loot?
2. Do you think that the SoT is oversatturated with loot?

Please discuss.

While mine is: "Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty?"
In my topic I'm more focused on the barrels of plenty.

Also, I answered very nicely and with respect to everyone here.
I understand that the initial impression of my topic wasn't very positive and I apologies for that. But, I didn't demand to change something in the game, my topic title is a question, wich implies that it was a suggestion, not a demand. Therefore, I'm showing that I'm open to debate and happy to discuss. No need to be kinda rude by saying "my topic is better because mine is more positive".

Also, I'm pretty sure that if my topic was that negative and not the kind to open a debate, it would have been closed by now by the moderators.

Now, if you're not happy with my response, I'm sorry. And I'm sorry if I stole your thunder with this thread. I just wanted to discuss and see what others had to say on the matter.

Can we go back to the topic, please ?

@nwo-azcrack I agree that this is the true root of the problem.

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@fractal-pitch said in Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ?:

@sweltering-nick a dit dans Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ? :

@fractal-pitch said in Should we really have loot being spawned with the barrels of plenty ?:

Hi, since I haven't seen any thread recently talking about this in here, I'm just going to create one and copy/paste (ok, not true, I'm modifying some things) what I've wrote on another topic:

I Just spent the day on the seas with a friend and the amount of loot found with the barrels is just completely insane.
Seriously you encounter loot every 300 meters, that's just plain ridiculous... And the loot fund can be high-tier loot or ruby mermaid gems.
What's the point for the new players to do any voyage at all ? You don't have to do anything to get a huge amount of loot !
You don't even have to play versus the environment !
You just move and you get rewarded for that !
At one point, there even were barrels with loot not 10m from an oupost...
Where's the glory in that ?

I personally really really hate this change.
I don't see the point in it besides giving everyone loot so that everyone has something to lose when encountering another player.
But doing that is a step in the wrong direction, I think.

1 minute salty rant activated
Honestly at this point, they can just spawn loot on the outposts where we spawn.
Just think about it... Maybe we can just stop using the boat ! That way, we just stay on land at the outposts !
1 minute salty rant de-activated (sorry I had to get it out)

Am I the only one here that thinks the same ?

Hmm....

Well, they spawn loot, sure, but they also spawn gunpowder barrels... there's a risk to it, ESPECIALLY if the one sailing the ship doesn't pay attention to where the barrels are, they could easily get randomly bombed in the middle of trying to escape other pirates...

Now, to avoid this, the sailors have to actually pay attention to the seagulls above the barrels, in order to steer out of the way in time to avoid getting potentially bombed by barrel spawns... This slows your ship down a bit, which makes chasing other ships, much more fun, and interesting, seeing as now, you actually have a chance to catch up to those sloops sailing against the wind, or those galleons sailing with the wind, etc.

It's not about the treasure, or gold... It's about the glory, the fun. ;)

I hope this helped you see this update from a new perspective. Maybe now it makes more sense to you? ;3

Well, it's a bad ratio risk/reward if you ask me since the amount of time I found kegs in the barrels was pretty low, compared to the amount of loot (and their high value) that was present.

I know it's about the glory and I precisely think that having absolutely nothing to do to get rewarded isn't glorious at all. Just moving shouldn't reward you, especially that much.

Now, what you are thinking, is if people deserve the gold... You're still too focused on the treasure, dude.

To truly express what the Pirate Lord means... I will ask you a very confrontational question, just to make a point:

Who the hell cares if you deserve the treasure or not?! ITS NOT ABOUT THE GOLD, IT'S ABOUT THE GLORY! xD

Besides, i logged on yesterday, and played 20 minutes of Sea of Thieves, i saw a reapers chest, went to go get it... I noticed barrels, saw treasure, also saw 2 gunpowder barrels amidst the treasure... I was lucky i didn't sail right over that barrel spawn... Otherwise i would've sunk... I learned an incredibly valuable lesson from that, i can no longer sail in straight lines anymore, that's too dangerous now. xD

The point isn't how RARE it is to see gunpowder barrels spawn, the point is, you can never let your guard down, because each barrel spawn, has the potential to RUIN you, you let your guard down ONCE, that's enough to make you regret it. And this PRECAUTION, is what creates the dynamic that produces... Glorious gameplay.

For some reason, you seem to think that the gold IS the glory... That's wrong. o_.

Well, I think you didn't understand what I was trying to say :D
For me, I don't care about the gold, I care about how you get it, about the glory behind ! Like you, mate ! :)
And in my opinion, there's absolutely no glory at all at having loot handed to you on a silver plate like that :)

Especially to that extent.

@sweltering-nick So the glory is in the fact that now we have a mine field simulator ? (Joking)

Gold is glory. So are doubloons. Since the game keeps on rewarding us with cosmetics and cosmetics are bought using gold and doubloons, I would say the end goal is pretty tightly linked to cosmetics.
It's like pokemon, sure you have to get all the badges and defeat the league.
But you also have to catch em all.
I mean ... Sure it's about the adventures and the friends you make and blablabla ...
Nothing new ever since online multiplayer was invented. And there is value and glory there too.

Just saying gold is not as meaningless as many people seem to claim.
I guess it's all very subjective and keeping an open mind is key.