Deadly Sloop with 1 player VS Galleon with 4 player

@giga2922 This is a bit of a loaded question and there are some parts that seemed designed to rub people up the wrong way.

Back on topic, it all depends on the situation. The element of suprise definately plays a part.
The total trick about PvP in SoT whether its against an out numbered foe or not, is all about dictating the fight.

Kegs are your friend, so is hammering the waterline, listen for boarders they are your worst enemy - untill they fix the cannon splash damage for friendlys (but thats another topic)

Regarding fleeing, nobody thinks less of you for that, fleeing allows you to dictate the fight better if they attack first.

Ignore streamers, #1 tip.

Is there any statistics what we can see how many times sink the different types of ships if it is attacked in the Adventure mode? Or any statistics about the attacks? Are the bigger teams more lucky or the chances are nearly 50-50%?

@giga2922 I have a feeling you won't beleive anybody here unless you see one of your "Streamers" do it.

I mean you are trying to ask for statistics, here's the only one I can give you:

I have sunk 100% of the galleons I have attacked first, as a solo sloop.

@callmebackdraft I don't think you can manage all these things in the same time alone. Steer the ship, set sail in the wind, shoot with the cannon, fill holes, dare water, handle gunpowder barrels. I think it is not depends on your experience, you have only two hands and you can do only one think in the same time. And sometimes the wind is blowing out of the map. Jumping to the water from a running ship and swimming back with mermaid is not working in a water with a lot of islands and rocks. So you have no chance to enjoy the game with the useful runaway as a win tactic.

Anybody has a really deadly tactic if you are alone? I mean you have only one player on a Sloop!

What I have read so far I already know and use, but so far I have a 0% win rate. I would love to see a professional player do it alone in the weekly stream! The bigger ship you have to attack should not be more experienced, but at least once you have to steal all the treasure from the attacked ship.

@giga2922 You are partly right but where you are wrong is that it is balanced, on the sloop it is easier to maniouver around the ship and set things like sail angle and shoot the cannon.

You do not need to be on the wheel the whole time.

This is all about experience, as has been mentioned mulitple times, I only every solo sloop and have managed to overcome said challenges. I am not going to lie it is hard.

Think of it as difficulty levels:

Galleon (full crew) - easy, mainly because mistakes are easily forgiven due to having a crew.

Brig (full crew) - medium, mainly because it is a glass cannon that can sink in a moments notice, if attention is not being paid.

Sloop (full crew) - Hard, you are smaller and out numbered against the other ships, and mistakes made are usually punished by either more expierenced players or the environment.

Sloop (solo) - Very Hard mode, same reasons as above but you don't have a crew member to fall back on should you make any mistakes

I also notice how you are completely ignoring me, which 1 is rude and 2 is more than likely because you know what is being said is true but you are stuck thinking everything is unbalanced.

@giga2922 Not watched it but since you are addament that you need to see it to believe it, I just googled "how to kill a galleon with a sloop solo"

and one video that popped up was: how to kill a galleon with a sloop solo

Gunpowder barrels and discretion. I just literally did a fleet on a sloop with a friend and owned the hell out of them thanks to all the kegs we had, and the help of harpoons. We went in that fleet with 75 planks. We hardly even touched our cannons.

When it comes to players, yup it's all about kegging them, especially if you have a stronghold barrel. Holy hell, game over! Just swim below their ship with the keg and then let it float to the surface right under them and BOOM! Now, quickly board them and slice them to bits while they're busy making repairs!

@giga2922 said in Deadly Sloop with 1 player VS Galleon with 4 player:

The game allows to login to the game alone and you can login to the same world with your friends in a team. So, according to the game, this is a pure fight if you have to deal with bigger teams alone.

I can play the game with a racing wheel so this should be a pure fight too, right?

You have more manoeuvrability in a sloop and you sit higher in the water, use this to your advantage, take tight turns around islands with large sand banks like the uncharted isles at I12 and N13. Cursed cannonballs can be used strategically - put a few holes in them (try to make them larger by hitting the same spot but also do a few spread out to make patching harder), do a few higher deck so they don't expect it when you hit them with a ballastball and weary ball combo (the ship will take on more water and their patcher(s) will hopefully be immobilised at that point).

And, yes, solo mode is hard mode but it's all about experience and knowing which fights to pick. If you come up against a really good galleon crew, you are better off running because they will use their numbers to their advantage. The game is always balanced enough to allow sloops to escape very easily from galleons. Your real enemy as a solo sloop, is the duo sloop.

@crimsonraziel "I can play the game with a racing wheel so this should be a pure fight too, right?"

You are right but it is not the game related thing. It is a physical device what you have. We can talk the bad Internet connection and the uncomfortable chairs and so on. Please open another discussion about the devices what we can use for gaming.

@giga2922 Since you are the one that thinks that there is an imbalance, what exactly do you think is unbalanced?

4v1? - I can debunk that with the fact you are on a sloop and they are on a Galleon
I would completely agree with you that is would be unbalanced should you only have access to the Galleon too.

@badassfro We can continue this unbalanced discussion if we can see any statistics about the 1v4 matches. The "unbalanced" topic is opened and already closed as well without any suggestions. Please focus the tips and tricks what is really useable to win a game if you are alone with a Sloop! Thank you!

Well it a difficult question, but if the pure goal is to sink other an steal there loot.
Then I'll say that stealth an information is the key to succes.
But it's very situational what tactic you should use.
are we talking stealing a fort loot, or the new reaper chest, or simply attack a galleon on a normal voyage.

Information: do they have treasure? where are they, where are they going next, what voyage are they doing.
all good information, because there is no reason to wasted time an cannonballs on someone that have nothing, then rather keep them in mind, an let them have 30-60 min to find treasure for you.

Stealth: you should hide you ship an swim/row over to them, an if fail, try again, an use your ship to chase.
It really only take 1 gunpowder to sink a galleon, but the time to do it is critical, I find it best to do when someone is fighting skeletons, just the bonus that someone might die by the skelly an can help, or coming back to the ship hurt an easy to take out by one shot.
if you die, you can just take you ship an try sailing over there, now they should be anchored an repairing an you can decide if you should use some cannon shots or another gunpowder .

@giga2922 HAHAHAHA ok now I know you are Trolling.

Firstly most of the posts here have included tips, only for you to reply with:
"Is there any statistics what we can see how many times sink the different types of ships if it is attacked in the Adventure mode? Or any statistics about the attacks? Are the bigger teams more lucky or the chances are nearly 50-50%?"

I then provide you statistics, on the ammount of Galleons I sunk while solo slooping, only to be ignored - feels hurt

Your obsecssion with "Streamers" and wanting to see it done should have been sated with the links provided earlier by my colleagues, and I.

You seem to flat out ignore what is being said here.

The only tip to any PvP in Sea of Theives is to dictate the fight and make better decisions than the opposing crew. The fact you are always against other humans means there will always be an element of unpredictablity.

Thats it, beleive it not its up to you.

But one more thing, if you have "the game is unbalanced" in your head there is no way you are going to get better, because it's always easier to blame the game than ourselves

Yes, Sloops can sink Galleons, but usually when their is already a huge experience gap between the opposing forces. However, this is my take on things, this game isn't meant to be balanced from the start. Boats are their to convey easy sailing for crew numbers. It would be unfair to expect a duo or single to use a galleon. That's a lot to maintain with so limited people.

The nature of sandbox games relies on what the player puts into it. The more you put in, the more you get out of it. A player who organizes a crew of four consistent players will have better over all rewards compared to a single player. The hijacked PvE servers are a testament too it. These large groups literally take over an entire server for their own personal use. They hold every boat and player slot with a person who shares their playstyle. That style being farming gold and Rep in an Alliance. No solo player can match this, but neither could one independent Galleon. They put in more to get out more, it makes sense.

Other games are no different. Look at Rust, obviously a clan will have an easier time compared to a solo. Yet, they all start the same as every other player. That is with a rock and a torch. Their exist no physical way to balance number differences easily, no matter what game you play. You can try to make ships special or better in some ways, but numbers will always matter.

However, we all have tools at our disposal, provided by Rare and the game, to find crewmembers to help us. The SoT Discord, thousands of player run discords, thousands of player run groups, and the Xbox LFG are all available to use by us the players. Either use them or don't, but whining here about the struggles of solo when you refuse to use the tools designed to help you. Gets annoying real quick.

@giga2922

Defeating a galleon as a solo sloop:

1. They will have to want to engage you in combat, if they flee with the wind there is no point in pursuing. Fleeing is a valid strategy in this game.
2. Do not leave your ship, you are alone and unless you feel comfortable and can judge whether having your ship sail circles while you left to board is a big risk; if you have a single hole you will lose your ship in many cases, additionally krakens and what not can spawn on your ship (had that happen).
3. Do not fight with low supplies versus larger ships. Usually the best way to deal with larger ships is to play the long, annoyance game (might just be my style and usually is a good way to have them invested in the fight as they just want that pesky solo dead). Preparation is half the battle.
4. Do not allow them on board, if they get on board you will most likely have one chance to recover, after that they can sink or camp you with 3 guys. Also, don't get thrown off your ship.
5. Capitalize on their mistakes, if they are in the water swimming around, circling that area to keep their ship near enough to not give them a mermaid means you are now battling 1 less pirate for instance. Swimming pirates are even more useless than dead ones.
6. Pick your battle ground, environment can make a big difference. Being chased by a galleon also really makes it easier to dictate the flow of battle and opens up more options and opportunities.
7. Optimize your time above deck, learn the limitations of the sturdiness of the ship and when a bucket or 2 is enough or when a plank needs to be hammered on. After that priorities should be naval positioning and at last dealing damage, as a solo you shouldn't be in a rush.
8. Keep moving! Standing still usually means you are a goner.

Other than that it really matter who you are dealing with, what tools you have available kegs, cursed cannonballs, element of surprise; I have had battles that last for 2 hours before being the victor, I have slaughtered galleons in mins (usually the other side isn't well organized in those situations), I have had a single mistake on my end cause my demise and had battles where I made mistakes and not being punished.

Awareness, judgement, proper choices and execution are what sets you up for potential success, but the opponents also have a say in the matter. Which is why it is balanced, both parties have a chance to come on top or get away.

There might be more effective ways to win, my style is more slow, stable and defensive with a requirement not to make any mistakes as I tend to always have water gushing into the ship during battle (or hope they don't punish me when I do), as in the end the only thing that matters is which ship is still floating. I enjoy a battle and take on anyone if needed when soloing (I am sometimes the aggressor due to needing to be at the island or it looks like a good opportunity), but I am not someone that just goes out hunting for other ships.

It's kinda already been said here but let me repeat.

Barrels and surprise are your best friends, mix that with skill so you can keep them from patching and you will almost always win. If you dont have surprise or they are coming to you, "flee" and what I mean by that is not to try and get away but just get them behind you. Against the wind you have the advantage, use it. Perfect position to attempt barreling and boarding. A good crew will be tough to board but some smart thinking on your part you can get a barrel off with little effort. then with them distracted you can board. You also have cursed cannon balls, use them smartly, disable cannons or drop anchor then keep the crew down with dancing or sleep balls while you hammer them with regular balls. maybe put in enough holes and then bored to prevent patching.

A strat I often pull is to set my sails to half or less and let my ship keep sailing, Then I might bring a barrel or if they have them in the crowes nest I'll steal there's and bomb the ship.

Beyond any of that get good. improve you gun/sword play so you can take on multiple people in a fight and practice parkouring around your own ship so you can avoid getting surrounded.

Basically what everyone has said... May one thing to help is test the waters. If you can get them behind you against wind and not in the path of rocks or islands. Try to get a board. If they let you board, they probably aren't as good. Anchor them and then fight them. You may lose your life but not your ship and you get a feel for their level. If you can take them pretty easy the maneuver at a distance around them to avoid their cannons at all cost. Do not take multiple cannon shots or it is probably over.

I just watched Beardageddon (on Twitch) sink a galleon with a full crew of good players. He does it all the time. His strategy has nothing to do with boarding or powder kegs. He doesn't even use cursed cannonballs. It's just good tactics and accurate cannon shots. He uses the maneuverability of the sloop to his full advantage and circles his opponent while hammering with cannonballs, both below and above the waterline. He stays aware of his surroundings and repels any boarders. Granted, he's amazingly accurate on the cannons and great at PvP. But this is a skill that can be learned and practiced.