Time penalty! Are you serious!!

@galactic-geek
AFK players in Arena should be kicked out and then penalized just the same as if they quit. (The AFK timer in Arena should be shorter than Adventure mode.)

@needsmokes Haven't watched the video but hope he wasn't suggesting that players should be penalized for leaving. I mostly play with randoms mainly due to my irregular schedule and as you'd expect, the chances of matching with an able crew is very very low (less than 5% if I had to guess). If I were to be penalized for leaving the game when a fellow crew is trolling, afk, etc, I think it's a ridiculous suggestion to be honest. Rare just needs to improve their matching system if they are so concerned about this issue.

What is the timer for idle players in arena?

@needsmokes said in Time penalty! Are you serious!!:

So after watching Captain Falcore's latest video on YouTube today where The Arena is the topic, time penalties for quitting a match is mentioned..
I thought the whole point of The Arena mode was for players who don't have too much time to play and therefore can enjoy a session on the seas in this mode?

A penalty for leaving would be perfectly reasonable. Your time isn't more precious than other people's. If players don't have much time to play, why shouldn't there be consequences to ruining their experience by quitting on them for whatever reason? You would still have the possibility to do so, with a penalty.

There are going to be matches where, let's face it, your going to crewed up with absolute idiots doing idiotic things to ruin the experience. No way am I going to want to suffer 24 minutes of that!

Well that's open crew for ye. Recruit people on the LFG or discord and the random players won't be an issue anymore.

Or perhaps I might suffer some kind of beard error.. Or I simply join a crew that all leaves and I'm alone (happens lots) I have to spend 24 mins solo because I will be penalised for not doing so?

Valid point, penalty shouldn't apply if you are left alone in your team.

Or I opt out of crossplay and discover I've been paired with PC and want out of the inept matchmaking pairing.

How is the matchmaking inept when it is by design that if there aren't enough people of your own pool you will be matched with people from other's? How often would it happen anyways if supposedly every single xbox player who left will be coming back because of opt-out according to opt-outers?

And I only had a spare hour to play SOT on that given day..
So, that would mean I would not be sailing that day, instead opting to go elsewhere due to being penalised.

If your choice was to leave your game, the consequence are on you. You had time to play, you decided to leave your game, oh well. How is it better if someone else has 1 hour to play, they spend time in the queue until they have enough players, then their crew ditch them on a whim? Now he lost his time. Why is that okay?

Thankfully I only have 8 more levels to suffer in The Arena.
Doubloons at the ready!

Why do you care then if you don't like the mode and just rush it to get it over with?

@galactic-geek said in Time penalty! Are you serious!!:

I'm now concerned about AFK players who might game the system for completing matches. They join, but can't leave because they don't want to get punished, so they just sit idly by without contributing anything except for a wasted player slot. What should be done about them, if anything?

That should be reportable IMO. You are spoiling your crewmate's experience, that's not any better than trolling and griefing your own team.

Howabout improving rewards for the pirate that doesn't leave or go AFK. The pirate that continues to battle despite the adversity.

Maybe base it on matches joined compared to matches completed. Factor in empty crew slots with total sailing time, perhaps.
A pirate wasn't AFK if he repaired a hole, dug up a chest and/or sold/stole one.
I remember in Battlefield 2, medics were rewarded for reviving friendlies and engineers were rewarded for replenishing others ammo.
Arena needs to reward pirates for anything positive they can do.

I'm one of those pirates that dont quit Arena matches ever.
Players that enter a match only to quit after a few minutes, are wasting their time not mine. I don't care if they are penalized further. I'm not obsessed with 250 wins.

It would be awesome for those dedicated to the game mode, to get more of a faction buff at the end of matches for finishing with a shorthanded crew.

@needsmokes said in Time penalty! Are you serious!!:

@zormis

Where to begin with your replies.

Firstly.
I never quit because my team is losing. But i will quit if i'm alone after 2 minutes..

That's not what your other post said, you literally said you leave because you get an idiotic crew. Why did you change your story? I agree it shouldn't start you without a full crew but this is a separate issue.

Secondly.. You have never had a beard error whilst playing The Arena and get disconnected? You must be very lucky. I very much doubt anyone else can claim that.

Nope, and I have terrible rural DSL internet. Sometimes I get bad lag spikes if someone uploads a large file, this forced me to invest into an expensive gaming router, it fixed most of my issues, I can now see who is eating my bandwidth and turn them off.

If you're getting disconnects it's usually your ISP or your router/modem, as someone who has many hours in SOT, it's rare for it to be server side for me.

Thirdly.. Oh i know 100% when i am playing against M&K PC players.. I just know!

No you don't especially now that xbox players can use M&K. I feel people who think this just can't face the fact their are better players than them. I have said this often enough here, but one of the best PVPers I have crewed with is a PC player but uses a controller. And as I said earlier I have seen my xbox friends get called PC hackers many times.

And to finish with.. The Arena was created and advertised as a quick to play game mode for players with not enough time to go full on adventure session..
So i do value my time very much, and if i choose to play a quick mode i would expect it to be an enjoyable session.. Currently, that's not always the case, and the need to quit in the hope of finding 4 players, active or not, that remain on your ship over 5 minutes is often hopeless.. So yes, if they leave.. I will too if the match still has a long way to go. Not because i will lose,, but because it is totally tedious to carry on.

Hence why they are working on changing arena to make it a better play experience for all. I can't wait for the time penalty, I have been asking this from the start. As someone who has played many games with it, it makes the most sense.

I play games to enjoy myself. Not to make others happy.

This is how most hackers think as well.

@needsmokes said in Time penalty! Are you serious!!:

@bloodybil

I use open crews because it is a default option available to me, and therefor should offer me a good game. Sometimes it does, and sometimes not.. I shouldn't need to start sourcing different ways to be crewed up. It's not my fault the matchmaking system isn't working as well as everyone would hope. I'm not desperate for wins, just want to play and have a crew of 4 players. And by all accounts, work on the matchmaking system is underway.

Sure, you shouldn't have to outsource the crew forming process, but by choosing open crew you accept that the experience will be 100% random and you will have more chances to end up with sub-optimal crewmembers, whether they act like it on purpose or not, rather than meeting and selecting/joining a crew that is more like-minded to what you are looking for.

(Why do you care then if you don't like the mode and just rush it to get it over with?)

This is the feedback and suggestion thread. I play, and have played this game mode for many many hours.. And clearly with all the changes underway, this mode is not yet perfect. So yes, i have found it to be tedious at times being left alone on a ship, or joining a crew with the match already underway to discover i'm either alone or with somebody who is spinning around in circles or fishing?!! So i decide to leave that crew.. Why should i stay? What sort of experience would i be getting from remaining? I can tell you, it would be frustrating and no fun, and gaming is all about having fun.

Feedback is welcome, I am merely giving my own opinion as well. Of course it is frustrating to end up with a crew of trolls, but again that kinda goes to my first point, open crew is random. Trolls and AFKers should be reported and take the penalty for ruining the experience of others. The real issue is those problems, that leads to people leaving IMO.

And as for opting out and still being paired with M&K etc.. I would be opting out as a personal choice, and i would quit a game if it didn't do so instantly once it becomes apparent that i have not been paired with my selection choice.

I understand your stance on the matter, but the devs made it clear they prioritize lobbies population over player pool preference.

If there are so little opt-out players to be paired with that you are being put with non-opt out, how is leaving and rejoining gonna help?

In the case where your crew was a legit crew without trolls, willing to have a good game, and you ditch them because you see there are a couple of PC players in other crews, how is it fair to waste your crew's time because you refuse to face PC players? If you are willing to waste their time with no regards to anyone, a penalty is totally reasonable.

Now i don't know if a time penalty is even a thing at the moment.. But during the Dev updates etc, there have been hints of such a thing.. So here i am, giving my feedback and concerns in the correct thread for doing so, using the forum correctly for debate.

Who's saying you don't have the right to? If you don't want people discussing your stance on a subject, send a letter directly to Rare then, this is a discussion forum, not a one-way soapbox stage. Others have the right to engage other people's ideas.

I'm sure i'm not alone in wanting to reach level 50 to unlock the full ship cosmetics and then probably not play this mode much afterwards.. I've made it to level 42 on open crews.. So i've had to endure a lot of miss matchmaking etc,and yes, I will be glad when it is all over. Not interested in chasing 240 wins to unlock weapons. Perhaps they will bring in more things to work towards in the future to tempt more people to play.. But currently there are none i want to work towards.

And that is fine, not every activity in the game will please everyone. It just thought it was strange to be so much against this idea when it won't affect you for long anymore.

People will have different gripes and issues with that mode. for some, leavers are priority one that should be addressed. For others it's matchmaking. For some it's queue times. It can't be easy to find a solution that will fix all those issues without affecting others at the same time. Hopefully the devs will find a way to compromise.

Daaaangggg! I should have played the arena when It was still playable... I think my level is around 24.. or 26... Uggh.. For Kraken's Fury! It's gonna be a Hell to increase that level now on...!

Yeeehaaa!!
Spreaaad the cursee in the seaaas!

I was just in an Arena match, the only one on the Gallion. I definitely left. Not
Going to take on all the other ships with 4 man crews by myself. lol I only wish that I was that good.