New Crew Punishment - Getting Tarred and Feathered

@goedecke-michel - Ahhh, apparently a bit of both. I had always associated it with just the sea, but it was used in the old west too. below is a quote from a site "A Brief, Sticky History of Tarring and Feathering"
"However, the practice actually began far earlier in Europe, and was first documented in an 1189 proclamation from Richard the Lionheart for punishing any thieves discovered on his crusading sea vessels: "

@Guybrush3pwood2
I don't think you understand the nature of what you are trying to suggest. Tarring and feathering isn't really a comical thing, its pouring literal hot skin blistering Tar onto a person with the added psychological degradation of looking like a farm animal. This suggestion is on level of letting you water board a crew member. Both are forms of torture, not a moment for a few laughs. Add into the historical uses of this, this will not lead to good news coverage on a game Rated T. Considering this is torture, game would need to change rating most likely.

This is a horrible idea and should not be implemented

@nabberwar said in New Crew Punishment - Getting Tarred and Feathered:

@Guybrush3pwood2
I don't think you understand the nature of what you are trying to suggest. Tarring and feathering isn't really a comical thing, its pouring literal hot skin blistering Tar onto a person with the added psychological degradation of looking like a farm animal. This suggestion is on level of letting you water board a crew member. Both are forms of torture, not a moment for a few laughs. Add into the historical uses of this, this will not lead to good news coverage on a game Rated T. Considering this is torture, game would need to change rating most likely.

This is a horrible idea and should not be implemented

Sticking a pirate in a brig, cutting down pirates with your cutlass, blasting holes in the side of peaceful player ships and laughing at them as they drown are horrible when viewed from a certain perspective.

Any of the above could be viewed as torture.

Not only that, we're fighting the undead, their rotting flesh still clinging to. their rotting limbs, we're stealing from each other, we're murdering peaceful animals by the bucket load for no good reason, sometimes completely eradicating them from an island

Suffering a lifelong scar from a shark bite, having to have an artificial limb due to an accident, loosing the sight in one eye aren't things to laugh about either... are rare laughing at the disabled!?!

No of course not.

Piracy or theft on a whole isn't a "comical" thing and piracy still happens now. Your argument doesn't really hold water when viewed in context with the game it's being suggested for

Monkey Island tarred and feathered Guybrush once and faced no fearsome backlash. Done in the right way and it's fine.

@guybrush3pwood2

Sticking a pirate in a brig, cutting down pirates with your cutlass, blasting holes in the side of peaceful player ships and laughing at them as they drown are horrible when viewed from a certain perspective.

Sea of Thieves is the romanticized version of this, however, if we really wanted to get the actual stories of Piracy in an authentic game it wouldn't be a T for Teen game. That and people laughing while they sink other players would constitute the ESRB's n/a rating for user generated content that isn't eligible to the Rating system.

Not only that, we're fighting the undead, their rotting flesh still clinging to. their rotting limbs, we're stealing from each other, we're murdering peaceful animals by the bucket load for no good reason, sometimes completely eradicating them from an island

Pure skeleton, not a piece of protein on them bones. You may enjoy putting forth genocide to the animals of the island, but that isn't Rare making you or encouraging you to do that act. When you suggest adding Tar and Feathering, that is Rare actually putting a seal of approval for the act, figuratively creating an avenue to allow you to tar and feather something. Again throwing molten tar on someone isn't a laugh worthy thing.

Suffering a lifelong scar from a shark bite, having to have an artificial limb due to an accident, loosing the sight in one eye aren't things to laugh about either... are rare laughing at the disabled!?!

All cosmetics can be removed and added at the players discretion, a far cry from a lifelong commitment you describe. This is a false equivalency, their is no comparison.

Piracy or theft on a whole isn't a "comical" thing and piracy still happens now. Your argument doesn't really hold water when viewed in context with the game it's being suggested for

Ok then should this game include other acts popular during that period. Throw in some slavery and sprinkle a hanging or two in there. Now I get your point, but while some things can be romanticized for a game, for me torture isn't one of them. I have no desire to water board, hang, tar and feather, or any other extreme form of corporal punishment in a game rated T for Teen.

@nabberwar said in New Crew Punishment - Getting Tarred and Feathered:

@guybrush3pwood2

Sticking a pirate in a brig, cutting down pirates with your cutlass, blasting holes in the side of peaceful player ships and laughing at them as they drown are horrible when viewed from a certain perspective.

Sea of Thieves is the romanticized version of this, however, if we really wanted to get the actual stories of Piracy in an authentic game it wouldn't be a T for Teen game. That and people laughing while they sink other players would constitute the ESRB's n/a rating for user generated content that isn't eligible to the Rating system.

I'm not saying i would like an authentic pirate game or any development that would give younger players nightmares.
I'm not saying that we should pour hot tar over our crewmates and chuckle as their skin blisters, I'm saying a vote is made and they look like a chicken for a bit

Not only that, we're fighting the undead, their rotting flesh still clinging to. their rotting limbs, we're stealing from each other, we're murdering peaceful animals by the bucket load for no good reason, sometimes completely eradicating them from an island

Pure skeleton, not a piece of protein on them bones. You may enjoy putting forth genocide to the animals of the island, but that isn't Rare making you or encouraging you to do that act. When you suggest adding Tar and Feathering, that is Rare actually putting a seal of approval for the act, figuratively creating an avenue to allow you to tar and feather something. Again throwing molten tar on someone isn't a laugh worthy thing.

So are Rare approving theft and piracy?

Suffering a lifelong scar from a shark bite, having to have an artificial limb due to an accident, loosing the sight in one eye aren't things to laugh about either... are rare laughing at the disabled!?!

All cosmetics can be removed and added at the players discretion, a far cry from a lifelong commitment you describe. This is a false equivalency, their is no comparison.

In my eyes there is. They have allowed "comical" artificial limbs to be used as cosmetics. The broken bottle peg leg for one... yes these can be removed and added but the injury they represent in the real world would be perminent.
Think that's the point isn't it? This isn't the real world.

Piracy or theft on a whole isn't a "comical" thing and piracy still happens now. Your argument doesn't really hold water when viewed in context with the game it's being suggested for

Ok then should this game include other acts popular during that period. Throw in some slavery and sprinkle a hanging or two in there. Now I get your point, but while some things can be romanticized for a game, for me torture isn't one of them. I have no desire to water board, hang, tar and feather, or any other extreme form of corporal punishment in a game rated T for Teen.

I think you're over egging the pudding here a bit. People essentially throw players into the brig till they rage quit. Being able to lock someone up and throw away the key is corporal punishment and if thinking about the historical equivalent, pretty horrific.

@guybrush3pwood2
I get what your saying man, games vs real world can make a difference. However, torture for me draws the line, specifically when its used as a form of punishment when historically its quite horrible who and why this was done. At least when the game is marketed at a T rating. I guess we can agree to disagree. I just don't see Rare implementing this, especially with how under the microscope games are put through for potentially controversial topics.

I just can't find humor in pouring molten tar on people. Maybe in a Satiracal sense like Life of Brian, but not as a form of punishement

@nabberwar yeah, the whole thing would be done in a comic kind of way. No actual pouring of the boiling tar. No actual displays of torture. They'd just look like a chicken for a bit.
From a player perspective it would be less of a punishment than ending up in the brig. At least you could still take an active role in the adventure and not just wait till the crew lets you out or you rage quit.
I'm sure people would use this in amusing ways too. You'd end up with galleon crews all wearing tar and feathers. Sinking crews all looling like chickens.
Yeah, the historical practice it represents is horrific, but then most of what we do in this game is.
I get that torture is a step further, but many other forms of entertainment have shown tar and feathering in a comic way... I'm pretty sure Jerry the mouse has tarred and feathered Tom on occasion, i know monkeys island did it and even Home alone kinda did a similar sketch.
But yeah, let's agree to disagree

Sooooooo............ Can we have different colored feathers? I want the red &white ones to go with my sea blue eyes!😁🤣✌

@duke-of-spire hell yes!!! Perhaps just the colours of the chickens available to the merchant alliance though otherwise people are gonna ask for blue chickens

@glannigan lol... that was my original thought but thought it would be too harsh a punishment 😂

@guybrush3pwood2 My crew would keep me in a permanent state of tarred and feathered!😒😉