@xzodeak said in Time to disable crossplay:
@dliquidcourageb I still get a massive amount of players saying I'm on pc, lol.
Yea not everyone knows yet how to actually see who is from their Xbox so you'll still get some false accusations, but yea, its all kinds of easy to tell. Not that it wasnt always.
@schwammlgott said in Time to disable crossplay:
I hope they add optional crossplay ONLY FOR ARENA
Wouldn't split the playerbase that much...
I'm XBox player by the way...Controller only
I do wonder if the adventure mode servers would run smoother if everyone was on the same console, same framerate, same hardware etc.
Arena is where Opt out is needed the least. Its a throw away mode, the most you ever stand to lose is the 24 mins or so it takes and even if your pick up crew loses with zero points to a well seasoned 4some of pc players, you still make some progress and cash. While in adventure mode you can lose the time, hours in the case of a tall tale, and walk away with nothing at all.
Adventure is where the level playing field matters most and I can only imagine its the most populated mode.
@satanicnemesis
Its common knowledge that pc players do not like using keyboard and mouse while running at 30fps. 60fps is good, and anything higher is a bonus. This is how people like @roosterwacker69 show that they have no idea what they are talking about. They suggest using a kbm on a 30fps Xbox fixes the problem. It does not.
@pomalotacusmk3 I do just fine with around 30fps. Higher is nicer, but ~30 is not terrible. Lower than 30 is bad.
The problem is that XBox performance tanks when using the mouse because the implementation is poor - at that point, its likely dropping below 30fps.
@d3adst1ck
Yea, but every time someone on Xbox suggests capping pc to 30fps, plenty of pc players jump on and complain that 30 is no good compared to 60. I would agree that 30 is 'not terrible'. Unfortunately, no one on Xbox can even tell you what their frames drop to when using kbm, coz there's still no ping or fps counter :(
@pomalotacusmk3 They are likely just hiding the poor performance of the XBox. There's no reason to not show that information, unless they don't want you to see that you are playing at a high ping and that the framerate is unstable. Both of which will cause more problems in all facets of the game - terrible ping likely being a huge issue in PvP combat.
@xzodeak said in Time to disable crossplay:
I support the crossplay option but think it's un-needed for adventure.
Arena mode it would be great, most of the newer/less PvP experienced players will opt out meaning you don't have the three or four ships being useless the whole game.
Adventure is where it is needed most. Why should console users suffer an injustice during a long voyage only to have a PC crew board your ship and ruin your whole session without the equal chance of defending yourself.
There will still be friendships that have formed over the year and players will not choose to opt out, so servers will always be full.
Myself personally, I have been fazing out the people whom I have played with on PC format in readiness for this opt out to finally come into effect.
Can't wait for every pirate to be equal and skill and experience being the deciding factor of each encounter.
#Ticking that box
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
Arena is where Opt out is needed the least. Its a throw away mode, the most you ever stand to lose is the 24 mins or so it takes and even if your pick up crew loses with zero points to a well seasoned 4some of pc players, you still make some progress and cash. While in adventure mode you can lose the time, hours in the case of a tall tale, and walk away with nothing at all.
Adventure is where the level playing field matters most and I can only imagine its the most populated mode.
Isn't arena the mode that is supposed to be the more equal-fielded one? Same size of ships, same size of crew, etc. That's the mode that brought the official announcement of crossplay opt out in the first place, what made the devs finally go for that function since it was supposed to be the "competitive" mode.
What good will opt-out be for when a lone xbox player faces a crew of 2-3-4 in adventure? Adventure is already the most unbalanced mode, opt-out won't change much. You don't lose hours of progress when you watch out and sell often.
I most of the time play on Controller on PC and have no problems whatsoever? still getting a lot of Kills & being able to outplay others.
I don't really see the problem here ^^
Its not really competitive, so maybe just don't be as invested in it, a loose, a win, doesn't matter controller or KBM: u'll get u'r wins and losses.
@bloodybil said in Time to disable crossplay:
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
Arena is where Opt out is needed the least. Its a throw away mode, the most you ever stand to lose is the 24 mins or so it takes and even if your pick up crew loses with zero points to a well seasoned 4some of pc players, you still make some progress and cash. While in adventure mode you can lose the time, hours in the case of a tall tale, and walk away with nothing at all.
Adventure is where the level playing field matters most and I can only imagine its the most populated mode.
Isn't arena the mode that is supposed to be the more equal-fielded one? Same size of ships, same size of crew, etc. That's the mode that brought the official announcement of crossplay opt out in the first place, what made the devs finally go for that function since it was supposed to be the "competitive" mode.
What good will opt-out be for when a lone xbox player faces a crew of 2-3-4 in adventure? Adventure is already the most unbalanced mode, opt-out won't change much. You don't lose hours of progress when you watch out and sell often.
Nah, Arena is "the sot experience, concentrated". It wasn't the mode that brought out the Opt out. Opt out was announced well before the Arena, you're confusing that they said it'd be here before the Arena with being because of the Arena.
Opt out isn't about balancing 1 man ships vs 4 man ships, why would I expect it to. If anything without advantaged PC players boarding Xbox crewed ships I'd expect 4 man ships to properly rule like they should. Also you cant sell early when doing Tall Tales so yes, you are risking hours of time spent. And I'm cool with risking, when it's a level playing field. (by which I mean more level, obviously).
Opt out is about allowing players paying to play on a closed platform to opt to play only with other paying players on a closed platform. That's all.
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
@bloodybil said in Time to disable crossplay:
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
Arena is where Opt out is needed the least. Its a throw away mode, the most you ever stand to lose is the 24 mins or so it takes and even if your pick up crew loses with zero points to a well seasoned 4some of pc players, you still make some progress and cash. While in adventure mode you can lose the time, hours in the case of a tall tale, and walk away with nothing at all.
Adventure is where the level playing field matters most and I can only imagine its the most populated mode.
Isn't arena the mode that is supposed to be the more equal-fielded one? Same size of ships, same size of crew, etc. That's the mode that brought the official announcement of crossplay opt out in the first place, what made the devs finally go for that function since it was supposed to be the "competitive" mode.
What good will opt-out be for when a lone xbox player faces a crew of 2-3-4 in adventure? Adventure is already the most unbalanced mode, opt-out won't change much. You don't lose hours of progress when you watch out and sell often.
Nah, Arena is "the sot experience, concentrated". It wasn't the mode that brought out the Opt out. Opt out was announced well before the Arena, you're confusing that they said it'd be here before the Arena with being because of the Arena.
Hey, let's not re-write history here. Arena was announced at XO18 in November 2018. Opt out was announced in a dev update video on Jan 30th, 2019.
@d3adst1ck said in Time to disable crossplay:
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
@bloodybil said in Time to disable crossplay:
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
Arena is where Opt out is needed the least. Its a throw away mode, the most you ever stand to lose is the 24 mins or so it takes and even if your pick up crew loses with zero points to a well seasoned 4some of pc players, you still make some progress and cash. While in adventure mode you can lose the time, hours in the case of a tall tale, and walk away with nothing at all.
Adventure is where the level playing field matters most and I can only imagine its the most populated mode.
Isn't arena the mode that is supposed to be the more equal-fielded one? Same size of ships, same size of crew, etc. That's the mode that brought the official announcement of crossplay opt out in the first place, what made the devs finally go for that function since it was supposed to be the "competitive" mode.
What good will opt-out be for when a lone xbox player faces a crew of 2-3-4 in adventure? Adventure is already the most unbalanced mode, opt-out won't change much. You don't lose hours of progress when you watch out and sell often.
Nah, Arena is "the sot experience, concentrated". It wasn't the mode that brought out the Opt out. Opt out was announced well before the Arena, you're confusing that they said it'd be here before the Arena with being because of the Arena.
Hey, let's not re-write history here. Arena was announced at XO18 in November 2018. Opt out was announced in a dev update video on Jan 30th, 2019.
Yea, I stand corrected on the timeline, still, I'd not say that Arena was the motivation behind the opt out.
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
@bloodybil said in Time to disable crossplay:
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
Arena is where Opt out is needed the least. Its a throw away mode, the most you ever stand to lose is the 24 mins or so it takes and even if your pick up crew loses with zero points to a well seasoned 4some of pc players, you still make some progress and cash. While in adventure mode you can lose the time, hours in the case of a tall tale, and walk away with nothing at all.
Adventure is where the level playing field matters most and I can only imagine its the most populated mode.
Isn't arena the mode that is supposed to be the more equal-fielded one? Same size of ships, same size of crew, etc. That's the mode that brought the official announcement of crossplay opt out in the first place, what made the devs finally go for that function since it was supposed to be the "competitive" mode.
What good will opt-out be for when a lone xbox player faces a crew of 2-3-4 in adventure? Adventure is already the most unbalanced mode, opt-out won't change much. You don't lose hours of progress when you watch out and sell often.
Nah, Arena is "the sot experience, concentrated". It wasn't the mode that brought out the Opt out. Opt out was announced well before the Arena, you're confusing that they said it'd be here before the Arena with being because of the Arena.
Opt out isn't about balancing 1 man ships vs 4 man ships, why would I expect it to. If anything without advantaged PC players boarding Xbox crewed ships I'd expect 4 man ships to properly rule like they should. Also you cant sell early when doing Tall Tales so yes, you are risking hours of time spent. And I'm cool with risking, when it's a level playing field. (by which I mean more level, obviously).
Opt out is about allowing players paying to play on a closed platform to opt to play only with other paying players on a closed platform. That's all.
Where did I write that arena was SoT experience concentrated? You say that arena is a throwaway mode and needs opt-out the least, and adventure needs it most. It's the opposite, adventure is already unbalanced in many ways and arena is meant to be pitting players on equal footing. In the crossplay video, Joe Neate says "We definitely believe this is the right approach, for SoT, especially with that competitive mode coming on the horizon." He mentions 3 different times that arena is especially considered when talking about the opt out. "We want it ready before arena gets in player's hands (rip)". Clearly that mode was the final push and reason to finally bring the option for players.
Anyways, I simply doubt that adventure will ever be balanced, whatever what console you play, so I disagree that it needs opt-out more than arena, which is designed to be balanced in every way.
@bloodybil said in Time to disable crossplay:
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
@bloodybil said in Time to disable crossplay:
@natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:
Arena is where Opt out is needed the least. Its a throw away mode, the most you ever stand to lose is the 24 mins or so it takes and even if your pick up crew loses with zero points to a well seasoned 4some of pc players, you still make some progress and cash. While in adventure mode you can lose the time, hours in the case of a tall tale, and walk away with nothing at all.
Adventure is where the level playing field matters most and I can only imagine its the most populated mode.
Isn't arena the mode that is supposed to be the more equal-fielded one? Same size of ships, same size of crew, etc. That's the mode that brought the official announcement of crossplay opt out in the first place, what made the devs finally go for that function since it was supposed to be the "competitive" mode.
What good will opt-out be for when a lone xbox player faces a crew of 2-3-4 in adventure? Adventure is already the most unbalanced mode, opt-out won't change much. You don't lose hours of progress when you watch out and sell often.
Nah, Arena is "the sot experience, concentrated". It wasn't the mode that brought out the Opt out. Opt out was announced well before the Arena, you're confusing that they said it'd be here before the Arena with being because of the Arena.
Opt out isn't about balancing 1 man ships vs 4 man ships, why would I expect it to. If anything without advantaged PC players boarding Xbox crewed ships I'd expect 4 man ships to properly rule like they should. Also you cant sell early when doing Tall Tales so yes, you are risking hours of time spent. And I'm cool with risking, when it's a level playing field. (by which I mean more level, obviously).
Opt out is about allowing players paying to play on a closed platform to opt to play only with other paying players on a closed platform. That's all.
Where did I write that arena was SoT experience concentrated? You say that arena is a throwaway mode and needs opt-out the least, and adventure needs it most. It's the opposite, adventure is already unbalanced in many ways and arena is meant to be pitting players on equal footing. In the crossplay video, Joe Neate says "We definitely believe this is the right approach, for SoT, especially with that competitive mode coming on the horizon." He mentions 3 different times that arena is especially considered when talking about the opt out. "We want it ready before arena gets in player's hands (rip)". Clearly that mode was the final push and reason to finally bring the option for players.
Anyways, I simply doubt that adventure will ever be balanced, whatever what console you play, so I disagree that it needs opt-out more than arena, which is designed to be balanced in every way.
I didn't say you said it, that's what they said. Also, its not designed to be balanced in every way or they'd make everyone go in with pickup crews as it stands now its completely unbalanced.
Clearly in the bolded quote they say "for SoT, especially for Arena". Which clearly means that Adventure mode needs it as well even if they are highlighting arena.
Arena is throw away sessions with guaranteed progress regardless of anything but quitting. This means that Adventure, to me, and likely many others who enjoy it, needs Opt out more.
You're welcome to disagree, but you'd be wrong.
@dliquidcourageb there is definitely not 5 million actively that play sea of thrives lol I have run it the same streamer twice in the last few days as well as multiple streamers and yutubers that play arena I have also met most of the people on my friends list multiple times in arena I play daily as well I would imagine there probably is only about 10k people active on sea of theives this game is dying due to this cross play issue and that the content dries up pretty fast tall tales took me 45 hours to complete that's not alot of time arena took me 210 hours to get 240 wins and I'm currently half way to 50 in hunters call I've nearly finished the anniversary update and it's been out a month
@fast-bike94 you've also spent 250 hours to do that. Most don't play this game nearly as much as you obviously do. Even at 5 hours a day that's 50 days of gaming. That pretty good for an expansion to a game.
I agree with you that the player pool is shrinking and seeing the same people will be an issue when cross play is removed.
@iii-porker-iii no seeing the same people is already an issue and yeah I'm not a casual player of the game but I'm just trying to state player base is really declining
@iii-porker-iii I mean at least pc streamers will see other streamers in arena might make for actual competitors
Let's really get to the point of the matter on being able to opt out of crossplay. The whole community on sea of thieves can argue till our faces are blue and are fingers are bleeding from typing. Being able to opt out of crossplay has been a topic almost as long as SOT has released on March 20th 2018. The bottom line here is that Rare confirmed that there is going to be an option to opt out of crossplay and that option was suppose to be released when arena was released. So all of us in the SOT community that want the option to be able to opt out are just asking for what was already promised to us by Rare themselves. Honestly this shouldn't even still be a topic because in the SOT community because that option should already be in the game. So please Rare just give us what was promised to us and let's end this discussion.
@dliquidcourageb said in Time to disable crossplay:
Honestly this shouldn't even still be a topic because in the SOT community because that option should already be in the game. So please Rare just give us what was promised to us and let's end this discussion.
So, did you miss the bit where he says that it's more complicated than anticipated and they are actively working on it?
@pomalotacusmk3 said in Time to disable crossplay:
@d3adst1ck
Yea, but every time someone on Xbox suggests capping pc to 30fps, plenty of pc players jump on and complain that 30 is no good compared to 60. I would agree that 30 is 'not terrible'. Unfortunately, no one on Xbox can even tell you what their frames drop to when using kbm, coz there's still no ping or fps counter :(
because suggesting to cap the PC at 30 is not the best idea... why not increase the Xbox FPS to 60?
lower the resolution to 900p or 720p and decrease the graphics to medium and bam, you got 60 FPS (why rare won't allow you to do this is beyond me)
i mean PC players with potato computers will lower their resolution and graphics quality to increase their FPS to 50-60. Everyone does it all the time.
Potato Computer on LOW graphics 720p and 60 FPS
Prototype computer on ULTRA graphics 4k and 60 FPS
AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. tweak your quality vs performance to your preferred enjoyment.
why can't Xbox players do this?
Xbox1, 720p medium graphics 60 FPS
Xbox1S 900p high graphics 60 FPS
Xbox1X 1080p ultra graphics 60 FPS
but NOOOOOO... instead lets insult PC players, and #ticking off. and go back into our little closed special bubble of "special" players
meanwhile, other games are doing leaps and bounds with crossplay trying to find solutions to balance PvP games where a console and a PC can play together.
@dliquidcourageb what is the advantage of a pc player? i play on xbox and if i die i die because i got outplayed. and yes sometimes i get idiot teammates but i think that could be solved by better matchmaking based on your skill level.
@cookieconsumer6 that is fine you are entitled to your opinion but like I stated before I am just asking for what I was promised by Rare on January 30th 2019, that's all
@dliquidcourageb said in Time to disable crossplay:
@cookieconsumer6 that is fine you are entitled to your opinion but like I stated before I am just asking for what I was promised by Rare on January 30th 2019, that's all
I was promised March 20, 2018 (game launch) that forced crossplay was here to stay.
So we know that Rare lies. Which is why I don't believe them when they say the population is healthy to go with the 4 way split.
@squaz05
No thanks. It would probably take them 6 months after announcing to implement 60fps on Xbox. I'll just take 30fps Xbox only, controller only servers. Problem solved.
@pomalotacusmk3 have fun playing on empty servers and only 2-3 ships per arena match and loooooonnnnngggg arena wait times when they implement it finally
hahahahahhahahaha
I hope rare realizes that crossplay option will be the nail in the coffin for this game
@algaram said in Time to disable crossplay:
@pomalotacusmk3 have fun playing on empty servers and only 2-3 ships per arena match and loooooonnnnngggg arena wait times when they implement it finally
hahahahahhahahaha
I hope rare realizes that crossplay option will be the nail in the coffin for this game
Why do people still tout this entirely debunked nonsense?
